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Shadco 12-16-25 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by maddog34 (Post 23657769)
here's campy's latest/greatest groupset... i see a REALLY Ugly crankset that will make male dogs hike their back leg in response, and an insanely expensive derailleur that will break in a sales floor tipover... and the price of that pizza platter cassette just made me bust out laughing.... wow... $1000 for a cassette.... i had to verify that quote from another post in this thread... yep, a freakin' thousand dollars.. for a standard replacement italian part... a full campy groupset, including the newest Bora wheels, will run about $12000... frame, bars, tires, seat and other parts extra.... so figure somewhere over $20,000 for a nice new eye-poppin'-talian Debt machine.... that makes dogs pee on it, on sight..
i hope campy kept their lawyers on the payroll.. they can help with the bankruptcy proceedings.

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/campa...er-record-13-x


Ugly is a matter of opinion.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0ff197b32.jpeg

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maddog34 12-16-25 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Shadco (Post 23662572)

that's not the crankset i'm calling ugly... although that 2x offering is certainly not very pretty.

wow.
y'all gotta learn to actually open, then read, links and posts.

tomato coupe 12-16-25 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by maddog34 (Post 23662758)
that's not the crankset i'm calling ugly... although that 2x offering is certainly not very pretty.

wow.
y'all gotta learn to actually open, then read, links and posts.

The crankset Shadco posted a photo of is shown at least 3 times in the article you linked. Since you never specified which crankset offended your senses, maybe you should spend less time insulting other people.

prj71 12-16-25 02:17 PM

Guys,

I just received word that campy is dead. We can end this thread now.

Atlas Shrugged 12-16-25 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by prj71 (Post 23662821)
Guys,

I just received word that campy is dead. We can end this thread now.

Don't you dare! I have it in my calendar to resurrect in two years, which gives me a purpose to live!


maddog34 12-16-25 03:53 PM

PRE-Mortem article....
$28 mil. in losses, a $10 mil loan in an attempt to stay afloat...seriously ugly components like the 2025 super-duper record deficit road crankset , or the 1x abomination, with expensive power metering for spec-impressed credit junkies... and no real world, Affordable, mid level or MTB components in the pipe....

the laurels they rode have dried and cracked from age, then rotted away....
damn shame.. i'll miss catching bikes equipped with more dollars than sense, telling the riders how cool their expensive bikes look, then leaving them far behind.

anyone wanting to resurrect campy needs to first fire the appearance design team, then ban the workers from drinking wine for "lunch".

https://road.cc/content/news/campagn...-losses-317045

cranky old road 12-16-25 07:12 PM

This discussion has been silly from the onset, but has been of personal benefit. It encouraged me to set aside the Di2 bike I bought for a cross state 800 person ride so I wouldn't need to carry Campy specific parts and my tools with me or worry about damage by clumsy rackers. Once home I'd continued to ride only the Shimano'd bike, out of inertia I suppose. I returned to my 10 speed Record equipped bike this weekend and found that my hands did not go numb during the 60 mile ride. Refreshing!
I remember that when I bought that Record group, Shimano shifters changed one gear at a time while mine could run the whole cassette and that Shimano cables were all up in the air while my cables were under the handlebar tape. If Tullio's grand kids cannot keep a functional business it will sadden me but I am old and there are worse things in the world these days than the potential failure of a classic cycling enterprise.

Camilo 12-17-25 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by maddog34 (Post 23662859)
...damn shame.. i'll miss catching bikes equipped with more dollars than sense, telling the riders how cool their expensive bikes look, then leaving them far behind.

How humiliating for them to spend money they have for something they like if they can't keep up with a non-race.

Trakhak 12-17-25 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by Camilo (Post 23663127)
How humiliating for them to spend money they have for something they like if they can't keep up with a non-race.

Pathetic boasts from non-racers about beating guys with expensive bikes in non-races have become even more common since Zone 2 training plans showed up.

maddog34 12-17-25 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Trakhak (Post 23663159)
Pathetic boasts from non-racers about beating guys with expensive bikes in non-races have become even more common since Zone 2 training plans showed up.

what the heck is a "Zone 2 training plan"? some thing to watch as you spin a fan or mag brake?

i never entered an official race due to a severe lack of cash, then moved on to other forms of velocity sports when i did have extra cash...
what is "pathetic" is people defending being really slow on overly expensive bikes, then attacking faster riders with typing.

i'm out.. this thread is deader than Campy.
have they Officially announced their demise, or is that just another rumor?
beat away.:deadhorse2:

FC25 12-18-25 02:06 PM

Campagnolo cassetes and shifters last longer than shimano. As in 2x longer. It';s shifters are a delight to operate. It's fast up and down the cassette. The 10sp groups are the best road stuff ever made. And beautifull. Campagnolo is not big in the US as it is in Europe. Cycling is not as big in the US as it is in Europe and that explains the misunderstanding of Campagnolo's role in cycling in this thread.

Atlas Shrugged 12-18-25 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Trakhak (Post 23663159)
Pathetic boasts from non-racers about beating guys with expensive bikes in non-races have become even more common since Zone 2 training plans showed up.

The point these non-racers always miss is that for it to be a race, the opponent needs to know it's a race as well. I also get a chuckle that the individuals who have their basements, garages, and sheds filled with old, discarded, and hand-me-down bikes, wheels and parts are judging the guy who has one nice, quality bicycle to ride and enjoy at their leisure. Who really is the crazy one (does the definition of hoarder ring a bell)?

smd4 12-19-25 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by FC25 (Post 23664111)
Campagnolo cassetes and shifters last longer than shimano. As in 2x longer.

Evidence, please.

mstateglfr 12-19-25 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by FC25 (Post 23664111)
Campagnolo cassetes and shifters last longer than shimano. As in 2x longer. It';s shifters are a delight to operate. It's fast up and down the cassette. The 10sp groups are the best road stuff ever made. And beautifull. Campagnolo is not big in the US as it is in Europe. Cycling is not as big in the US as it is in Europe and that explains the misunderstanding of Campagnolo's role in cycling in this thread.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5da260b492.gif


Campy isnt struggling guys, the real issue is that dumb Americans misunderstand Campy's role in cycling. Campy is apparently strong and well!

Steel Charlie 12-19-25 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged (Post 23664159)
The point these non-racers always miss is that for it to be a race, the opponent needs to know it's a race as well. I also get a chuckle that the individuals who have their basements, garages, and sheds filled with old, discarded, and hand-me-down bikes, wheels and parts are judging the guy who has one nice, quality bicycle to ride and enjoy at their leisure. Who really is the crazy one (does the definition of hoarder ring a bell)?

Oh, my !

That'll be good for another seventeen pages

13ollocks 12-19-25 10:06 AM

Looks like this thread has found its second wind.....god help us...:twitchy:

vespasianus 12-19-25 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by 13ollocks (Post 23664568)
Looks like this thread has found its second wind.....god help us...:twitchy:

This thread is more about the end of humanity than it is about the end of Campagnolo. And even more sad because the first post, in this poor example of intelligence, is not even true...

Steel Charlie 12-19-25 04:41 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c522a8aeca.gif

bfuser5893539 12-19-25 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by vespasianus (Post 23664603)
This thread is more about the end of humanity than it is about the end of Campagnolo. And even more sad because the first post, in this poor example of intelligence, is not even true...

You see, Campagnolo represents the conflict between technology and man.

During This TED talk, I will explore....

mackgoo 12-19-25 05:48 PM

Interesting to me, I recently saw a video of a tour of the Campy factory. It was stated that all components are manufactured there.

vespasianus 12-19-25 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by mackgoo (Post 23664854)
Interesting to me, I recently saw a video of a tour of the Campy factory. It was stated that all components are manufactured there.

They manufacture in Romania as well.

Atlas Shrugged 12-19-25 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by mackgoo (Post 23664854)
Interesting to me, I recently saw a video of a tour of the Campy factory. It was stated that all components are manufactured there.

As with most of the legacy myths surrounding Campagnolo this is not even close to be the actual situation. Campagnolo follows a "Made in Europe" model rather than a strictly "Made in Italy" one. Here is the general breakdown of their production distribution:

• Romania (~80% or more of manual labor/assembly): Nearly all final assembly for groupsets and wheels occurs in Romania. This includes carbon fiber rim production, wheel lacing, and the assembly of shifters and derailleurs.

• Italy (R&D and specialized machining): The Vicenza headquarters remains the brain of the operation. It handles all design, engineering, and prototyping. Manufacturing in Italy is now largely restricted to highly automated processes, such as chain production and precision CNC machining for high-end components (e.g., Super Record cranksets).

• Asia (Limited): A small percentage of entry-level components and some specific parts for their sub-brand, Fulcrum Wheels, are sourced or manufactured in Asia to maintain price competitiveness.

Steel Charlie 12-20-25 01:14 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e69f279723.gif

genejockey 12-20-25 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by 13ollocks (Post 23664568)
Looks like this thread has found its second wind.....god help us...:twitchy:

I thought I had managed to kill it dead, and indeed it stayed down for 6 days before struggling back to its feet.

genejockey 12-20-25 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by vespasianus (Post 23664603)
This thread is more about the end of humanity than it is about the end of Campagnolo. And even more sad because the first post, in this poor example of intelligence, is not even true...

At this rate, I think it will be about the heat death of the universe.


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