This should get you started: https://www.enchantedlearning.com/dev...lanswers.shtml

Anything that's not on the previous diagram is not worth knowing.

j/k, look it up in sheldon brown's glossary. https://sheldonbrown.com/glossary.html

Things I can think of off the top of my head that aren't on the previous diagram . . .
Bottom Bracket
Seat Stay
Chain Stay
Headset
Henway

How many people do you expect a LBS to do it for free for? Keep that up, and they are out of business. Get the word - BUSINESS.

And if this poster is complaining about an $8 charge, it's a sure bet he won't be back for anything.

If I were rolling in the dough I'd say people who haggle on a price of a VW Jetta were cheap. It's a business for goodness sake.

It's the guy's money, not yours.

" they cant take some guy off the street, give him a robe and tell him to fix bikes"

I didn't get a robe.... I want a robe.-Rev.Chuck

Looking up the average mechanic wage does not give you the wage of a bike mechainic. See that word, AVERAGE? That means they take all the mechanics salaries(That means all the mechanics, including the guys that make 80K fixing BMWs and Mercedes), add them up, then devide by the number of mechanics. Bike mechs make the low end of the scale, more like $10 an hour. We do it because we like to work on bikes. Thanks to people like you there will be fewer of us every year, because we are here to fix the damn bike, not haggle with children. Thanks to the fuel crunch we may become more necessary to the public, and our value may climb.

If you were a 16 year old Tera Patrick (not sure if her Asian mom can fix bikes as well as your dad), I'm sure the bike shop would have fixed your bike for free.

Well I'm going to agree with the above. 5 minutes to straighten out the chain and show him how to mount a rear wheel could win a long term customer and maybe many more. But many of you would pass that up in favor of squeezing $8 out of a kid. Bernie Ebbers and Ken Lay would be proud of you.

Oh yeah, that is a very fair comparison. You must work for a comapny that lets you keep all the money grossed on company time. Based on USA today, Lay's yearly salary was more then 70 times my total income for the last twenty years

It sounds like he had a bent derailleur hanger too. Where do you draw the line when it is in the bike stand? Do you send the bike away with a slightly bent hanger? Then you are the bad guy, only worse. It may not be as simple as it sounds. It usually is NOT. They may have been busy too.

If there is another person in the bike shop or a few, or if he had a friend with him, and they did do it for free then the others will expect what they "perceive" to be small things for free too. Since they won't be, and you can't do them for free, then you are the bad guy only worse. This time much worse. It goes on and on. Typically a person who does what this person did will continue the pattern and not become a spending customer anyway. It's a judgment call by the shop at the time, it could go either way, but many people typically do the same thing over and over, especially kids.

Cashier, " Your groceries come to $87.43"
Customer, " Wow, you are making out like a bandit! What are you doing buying a yacht"?

You're complaining over an $8 bill?....and then haggle to get it to $5. Listen, if you can't do it then pay, simple as that. Either that, let this be a lesson to you if $8 is too much. First, stay in school, second go on to college and third...get a good job and not one that pays like crap. There you go, after that, the $8 will seem like a bargain.

Cashier, "You seem like a nice kid I'll give you an $8 discount while all the other customers
watch me do it."

What'd you pay your dad???

probably the dad paid him lol

If it's super quick I'd do it for free. Otherwise, it's $6.
Once you do it free for one kid, all his buddies come in wanting free stuff. As others have mentioned, I've seen it happen many times. Bike shops have to maintain the profitability of the service department as margins dwindle elsewhere and people expect us to sell things at or below cost.
I'd suggest you actually work in a bike shop before passing judgement, especially with such a laughable comparison.

Why is there so much hostility toward bike shops here? Why do people think it is ok to haggle about everything in a shop? I have said it before and it was itterated here in this thread. You do not do this in a grocery store so............. Alot of people here poison themselves with alchohol here do you haggle on the price of beer? Beer and liqour is outrageously priced.
Just deal with it. Bike shop owners have to make a living so just deal with it. Geez there has to be a few hundred LBS bashing threads here just stop it.

Exactly right. I have a friend who owns a bike store and almost every customer wants not only a disconut on a bike that's already marked down, but also wants water bottle cages, water bottles, pump, spare tube, and on and on thrown in for free.

I'm all for good word of mouth, but if that word of mouth is, "go here, they do stuff for free" you may want to be careful.

Now, someone previously mentioned that if it's a quick fix do it for free. I can agree with that; but I'm going to trust the bike shop guy here in using his judgement in assessing the situation. The OP thought it was a simple quick fix, but he's not sure about how the 'hangy' thing is supposed to hang. I don't know what the hell he's talking about (probably the RD) but it may not have been such a quick fix.

I recently tipped my local bike mechanic $5 since he installed the Flight Deck on my new bike overnight. I think I'll make it $8 next time.

If his dad fixed it, it's unlikely it was a difficult job. And his not knowing how the dangly thing should work hardly indicates derailer repair is necessary. (Unless his not-knowing equates to an opportunity to squeeze him for money. I certainly hope that was not your implication.)

To a newbie, reinstalling a rear wheel can be daunting. To a bike shop mechanic it should be simple. I just don't like the "I don't even look at it for less than 8 bucks" approach.

And maybe you bike shop owners and workers who do take that attitude should list your shop names so we can all know who to avoid.

I have several local shops I frequent. They all are great about these things. I recommend them to everyone who asks and send in lots of bike business, and I spend all my big ticket money with them (auto bike racks, shoes, pedals, seats, helmets, clothes, and everything else I don't want to buy used from ebay or order on line).

Why is it so tough to be decent to people. If you think that threatens your business then you should already know one of your problems.