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foxden 10-31-05 07:52 AM

What Do I Really Need?
 
Bought a hybrid last week and should be picking it up next week. A Raleigh Passage 5.0. I know the shop was filled with accessories, but what do I really need besides a helmet for safety, and a place to hold water if I am out for a while?

Any brands to look for or avoid on items?

The Seldom Kill 10-31-05 08:09 AM

A lock. Many schools of thought will be proposed on this subject regarding needs and configuration with many compelling arguments. Before the shouting begins I would advise that whatever system you do not skimp in any fashion in this area, always buy something with a Sold Secure certificate and that whatever you use meets the conditions of your insurance.

Spare inner. Get two of them, you'll use them sooner or later.

Tire levers. Don't buy metal and be prepared to try a few until you find a type that's right for you.

Puncture repair kit. If you're tires are over 60psi then do not use self-adhesive as they have a tendancy to leak. Vulcanising solution patches will last longer then the seams of the tire if applied properly.

Hand-pump. Topeak Morph is the pump du jour at the moment. Worth the money if you're likely to get caught more than 10 miles from home or a friendly shop. Otherwise a mini will suffice. CO2 Canisters will get recommended but cost vs. value is to be thought about before buying.

Track-pump. If you don't have a Morph or similar, get one of these. BETO, Joe Blow are two good ones.

Minitool. Should at least have all the allen keys you need, a phillips and a stanley screwdriver.

John Wilke 10-31-05 02:11 PM

Yup, I'd go with the spare inner tubes, plastic tire irons, and a frame pump. See if they'll throw in a water bottle with the shop's logo on it for free. At least now you know that you'll get home if you get a flat tire just as you see that big rain cloud chasing you down! :eek: :p

John Wilke
Milwaukee

Boudicca 10-31-05 02:15 PM

Lights, if you aim to be riding at night.

Machka 10-31-05 02:18 PM

Along with the seat pack, multi-tool (Topeak Alien), tubes, patch kit, levers, pump (Topeak Road Morph), and your choice of food ... which you will bring with you on every ride ...

You should also bring KNOWLEDGE. In other words, all that stuff will do you no good at all if you don't know how to use it. If you have no idea how to change a tire or do some basic repairs on your bicycle, take a class to teach you. At the very least, get the people at the shop where you are picking up your bicycle to go through the process of changing tires with you ... and then practice till you feel comfortable with it.

In addition to that, you might also consider ... padded shorts, gloves, jersey, cycling jacket, etc. etc. etc.

Portis 10-31-05 02:53 PM

Your most immediate need will be addressing the issue of flat tires. Everything you need has been mentioned above. If you don't like to flat, put Slime in your tires. This is a suprisingly controversial topic. HOwever, i prefer to ride as opposed to changing flats. Especially in the cold and the dark. Others say it is too messy and makes your wheels weigh too much.

Remember that you only put 4 oz in each tire. So you be the judge...are you worried about 8 extra ounces on your wheels? Not I. At least not on my mountain bikes. I don't run slime in the road bike tires. Also you don't need a lock unless you will be leaving your bike unattended. I never leave mine that way because i always leave on the bike and return on the bike and then hang it in the garage.

Enjoy your new bike!

AndrewP 10-31-05 03:19 PM

If you plan to go out for day rides to enjoy yourself, get a handlebar bag for carrying maps, snacks, camera and possibly a rain jacket.

Keith99 10-31-05 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Machka
Along with the seat pack, multi-tool (Topeak Alien), tubes, patch kit, levers, pump (Topeak Road Morph), and your choice of food ... which you will bring with you on every ride ...

You should also bring KNOWLEDGE. In other words, all that stuff will do you no good at all if you don't know how to use it. If you have no idea how to change a tire or do some basic repairs on your bicycle, take a class to teach you. At the very least, get the people at the shop where you are picking up your bicycle to go through the process of changing tires with you ... and then practice till you feel comfortable with it.

In addition to that, you might also consider ... padded shorts, gloves, jersey, cycling jacket, etc. etc. etc.

I'd add a cool tool or the like. Mainly for the chain breaker included. BUT that is worrying about what might happen. Knowing how to change a tire is worrying about what WILL happen. Change out a tire at home at your comfort, with the tools you will have on the bike. Then you will KNOW what to do when you flat on teh road. Oh and do the rear tire. If you can change a rear tire you can change a front, the reverse is not true and at least on the road about 2/3 of all flats are on the rear.

cooker 10-31-05 04:40 PM

Lots of advice here which is all good, but don't let it overwhelm you, if you just plan (at first) to ride leisurely in daylight hours within walking distance of home, so you can get home if you have a breakdown.

All the other stuff people mentioned will come in handy if you plan to ride more seriously.

Robert

ps. pant leg clips or velcro straps if you plan to ride in long pants.

webist 10-31-05 05:43 PM

I don't want to add to an overwhelming list of needs. I'd just mention gloves with a bit of padding. I found they really added to my comfort on long rides. Though I have not put them to the test, I am told that protection for the hands is important should one fall.

Boudicca 10-31-05 06:42 PM

Did anyone mention a bell? Although I find it's much more effective just to yell at the jaywalking pedestrians rather than tinkle a rather inadequate bell at them.

Machka 10-31-05 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Boudicca
Did anyone mention a bell? Although I find it's much more effective just to yell at the jaywalking pedestrians rather than tinkle a rather inadequate bell at them.

Well, it is the law to have a bell where I live ... so that might be something worth checking.

It is also the law to have lights, even if you're not riding at night, but no more than two headlights. Go figure.

Brian 10-31-05 08:28 PM

Never ever ask what you need. When it comes to cycling, what you want is far more important.

supcom 10-31-05 09:18 PM

Definitely padded bike shorts and flat repair stuff and chain lube and gloves and water bottles and a seatbag and a rear blinking light and a headlight and a cyclocomputer and.... Oh man, it just doesn't ever stop.

And that's a good thing!

crazybikerchick 10-31-05 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Boudicca
Did anyone mention a bell? Although I find it's much more effective just to yell at the jaywalking pedestrians rather than tinkle a rather inadequate bell at them.

It is actually useful for city traffic as well. I've been riding along, a car in the left lane is about to make a lane change right into me and after a sharp bling veers back sharply to the left. Can't guarantee people locked in their steel boxes with stereos will always hear you but certainly it can't hurt. Also good to wake up people trying to make turns but only have their head cranked to look at traffic in one direction. (and not at you)

crazybikerchick 10-31-05 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by foxden
Bought a hybrid last week and should be picking it up next week. A Raleigh Passage 5.0. I know the shop was filled with accessories, but what do I really need besides a helmet for safety, and a place to hold water if I am out for a while?

Any brands to look for or avoid on items?

What do you plan to do with it? Do you plan to ride it recreationally or for transportation? Do you plan on going mostly for short rides or longer rides?

If you want to run short errands, a basket might be useful to hold things.
If you want to commute with it, a rear rack is useful to tie things to or attach panniers for more carrying capacity.
A lock if you want to leave your bike anywhere unattended for a bit, even if you don't plan on it, you might see somewhere you want to stop and grab a bite on a ride. Get a good quality u-lock (not the old kind with the cylinder lock, you can pick those with a bic pen)
If you're mostly interested in fitness, you'll probably find a bike computer a good motivation tool to know how far and fast you go. (I like the Cateye computers)
If there's any chance you might ride after dark, (or get caught after dark if you plan to commute) a headlight and taillight (not just reflectors) are essential.
If your seat gets sore, you may find padded bike shorts comfortable.
If your hands get sore, (or you plan on doing very long rides) padded gloves are helpful. They also avoid asphalt on your hands if you crash.
If you plan to ride with heavy traffic you may find a rearview mirror helpful to see whats going on behind you (though for changing your position its essential to shoulder check anyway)
If you plan on doing fast recreational rides where you'll sweat a lot you might like a bike jersey since they are made of wicking material and have pockets in the back to hold a spare tube, a granola bar, wallet, keys whatnot.

You need a plan for what to do if something breaks down on your trip. This might just be take a cellphone and call someone, or having tools to effect your own repairs. A spare tube and a frame pump (much easier to pump a tire from flat than with a small jersey-sized pump) are the minimum you need. Whether you need plastic tire levers depends on how tight the wheels are on your rims, one bike I have I need levers, the other I can easily change a flat with my hands only. Allen keys can be useful for tightening things that have become loose.

Oh and some chain lube to apply periodically.

Just start by riding!! It will soon become apparent what things you might find useful for you!

MichaelW 11-01-05 06:32 AM

I regard gloves as essential, the same as a helmet. If you take a spill (and I have had three), gloves save your palms from being skinned to the bone. One of my leather gloves has 1mm of hide abbraded away.A hand injury is really dissabling and takes ages to heal.

lws 11-01-05 06:59 AM

eye protection. I would say this is even more important than a helmet, since a helmet only helps you after you crash, and a 20 mph bug in the eye can easily *cause* a crash. Cheap sunglasses are adequate, though you can easily spend $100 if you want to.

DataJunkie 11-01-05 08:58 AM

If you are riding in cold weather kleenex is a nice item to have. My flippin nose keeps running below 40 degrees.

supcom 11-01-05 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by DataJunkie
If you are riding in cold weather kleenex is a nice item to have. My flippin nose keeps running below 40 degrees.

That's why they put terrycloth patches on gloves!

froze 11-01-05 06:31 PM

Depends on how far out your going to ride and are you going ride. Regardless your going to need a pump and some modern mini's are as good as frame pumps but weigh less such as the Barberi Titan mini that can reach 140psi, your LBS may have a another brand that is just as good.

You also need a patch kit; I happen to like glueless because their faster and no matter what anyone tells they last the life of the tube. I've been using glueless patches for about 8 years and never had any issues. You should also carry a spare tube and tire irons. Of course you should know how to fix your own flats! If not, practice at home several times till you get it; better to practice first then try doing it for the first time on the road.

Your going to need a saddle bag to carry all your junk.

After that a tire boot for repairing tires; a mini tool might be useful, I like the Park MTB3 but there are a bunch out there so take your pick.

If your going to riding after dark then guess what? Yep you need lights; Cateye LD600 for the rear is a very bright light but mount it vertically for the best effect. Cygolite makes very good halogen headlights at low cost take your pick from $48 for 13 watts on up for brighter lights. A front flasher like Vistalight Nebula is a good idea because the flasher will attract a drivers attention to you whereas the headlight will not.

Some odds and ends the LBS can't help you with, cash in case you need to use a phone or buy something like grub or drink; get an ID card from your BMV or DMV and carry that in your bag instead of your drivers license; and spare batteries for whatever you might have that requires bats.

Retro Grouch 11-01-05 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by foxden
Bought a hybrid last week and should be picking it up next week. A Raleigh Passage 5.0. I know the shop was filled with accessories, but what do I really need besides a helmet for safety, and a place to hold water if I am out for a while?

Any brands to look for or avoid on items?

I think that you've already got the idea. Just ride and you'll figure out for yourself what works for you. I generally just carry enough stuff with me to fix one flat tire. Some guys carry enough tools and such to overhaul their whole bicycle and have a picnic on the side of the road along with a cell phone to call a cab if that doesn't work.


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