djtrackie

I want a smaller lock to defend against leverage attacks... and I really like the design of the Krpto Mini...

Questions:

Is it likely that this lock will be defeated on Campus?

What's the weakness of this lock? The crossbar? The U-portion?


Most of the time i hear about U-locks being defeated via leverage attacks (via jacks), have you guys ever hear of a U-lock failing due to other attacks?

thanks!

BTW: i tried the bulldog mini, but didn't really like it because I didn't like the excessively bulky plastic-coated crossbar. I know it's supposed to be good, but i just didn't like the look or feel of it.

EricDJ

What's the weakness of this lock?

owners not properly locking the bike up to a stationary object

jwbnyc

I use the Evo as an everyday, fast in, fast out, lock.

It can be defeated more easily by leverage attacks than the Bulldog Mini. That would be it's main weakness in the face of a manual attack.

How vulnerable it is to leverage is dependent on how you use it.

It's important to leave as little room as possible for anything a thief might use as a lever when locking up, IOW: don't lock up to something real skinny.

People are discussing the new Bulldog Mini in another thread. They have apparently slimmed the lock down quite a bit, as well as making it a bit tighter fit.

I'm waiting for the NY Mini which is due in January, myself.

The Evo Mini is not the best lock for areas with a severe theft problem, or for long periods of time. It's convenient for shorter lock ups. I am pretty confident with it though, as long a I can get a good tight lock up using a parking meter, generally.

Other attacks would involve power tools, or freezing? I don't even know how common that is. In the case of power tools, you've got about Two Minutes tops.

Even with a NY, you only have, like, Ten minutes? Multiple hardened locks would seem the only workable strategy there, to slow a power tool attack, so looking for a secure indoor location for lock up is probably something to consider.

So much depends on the bike, the location, the thief, and general luck, good or bad.

The best you can do is lower your chances of getting ripped, not eliminate the possibility all together.

If I am going somewhere really infamous, I've got a NY U and an Abus 1060 chain at the least. That's a ton of weight, so I tend to keep various locks at home and work so I do not have to lug it all around all the time.

You've got a nice bike there, judging by your sig. Leaving it outside for a long period of time might be a bad idea. I've found that hospitals often have free bike parking available in their garages, when they have garages.

alanbikehouston

The weakness is that it has only one locking bolt. The other end of the shackle just has a bent foot that is not bolted to the crossbar. As a practical matter, if a "Mini" U-lock is correctly looped around the rear wheel and a sturdy steel post set into concrete, there is little or no room for a crook to insert effective breaking tools.

A Krypto Mini is plenty strong enough for a bike that will be locked near a classroom for an hour or two. But, if you intend to leave a bike outside overnight on a college campus, you need a "beater" bike, and at least two sturdy locks, such as the Kryptonite New York 3000 or the OnGuard Brute. Almost any lock can be defeated by a crook with experience, the "right" tools, and fifteen or twenty minutes alone without any witnesses around.

Crooks who know how to speedily open a top quality lock target expensive bikes (those with a value of $600, $1,000, or more). Highly skilled crooks don't bother with bikes worth $100 or $200 that use top quality locks...too much work for too little money AND there is more money to be made elsewhere.

Bekologist

beater bikes beats better locks anyday!

I like my Evo, its not like there's a LOT of mini U's to choose from...