Reaffirming physics beats macho posturing
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Reaffirming physics beats macho posturing
Sometimes people have called me a worry wort because I don't ride if lightning is present within sight or hearing.
But just yesterday a second strike, this one was within 3 miles of my commute. Glad I passed on riding home yesterday. Here's the news article about both strikes.
https://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3965395
But just yesterday a second strike, this one was within 3 miles of my commute. Glad I passed on riding home yesterday. Here's the news article about both strikes.
https://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3965395
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I avoid it, if it seems like it'll go away quickly I'll wait for the lightning to pass then ride out. But I can't say I've never ridden in lightning before. I did it all the time as a kid... had to get those newspapers delivered one way or another, the paper company didn't care what the weather was, papers were to be delived by 5. Hence I rode in lightning plenty with that job.
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yeah. running in the lightning was fun when i was a wee one. however. i would avoid it now. not that there's many lightning days here.
hey. this article mentions something about being killed in a car by lightning. how could you get killed? i mean if the window was down, sure. or if the car has all metal interior, sure. but that makes no sense to me. unless you can electrocuted through all that rubber, vinyl, and upolstrey(sp?).
hey. this article mentions something about being killed in a car by lightning. how could you get killed? i mean if the window was down, sure. or if the car has all metal interior, sure. but that makes no sense to me. unless you can electrocuted through all that rubber, vinyl, and upolstrey(sp?).
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When backpacking, if lightning is present, one is supposed to remove his pack (with a presumably aluminum frame) and move to a safe area.
Ergo, I wouldn't ride my bike when lightning is near.
Better to be a LIVE worry wart.
Ergo, I wouldn't ride my bike when lightning is near.
Better to be a LIVE worry wart.
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I wouldnt worry about it if there were tall buildings or trees near me, as they would take the hit, but I wouldnt ride in the open or shelter under the tallest tree. When you first hear thunder it is time to plan for action - stay where you are or move to a safer place.
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Originally Posted by kyle!
yeah. running in the lightning was fun when i was a wee one. however. i would avoid it now. not that there's many lightning days here.
hey. this article mentions something about being killed in a car by lightning. how could you get killed? i mean if the window was down, sure. or if the car has all metal interior, sure. but that makes no sense to me. unless you can electrocuted through all that rubber, vinyl, and upolstrey(sp?).
hey. this article mentions something about being killed in a car by lightning. how could you get killed? i mean if the window was down, sure. or if the car has all metal interior, sure. but that makes no sense to me. unless you can electrocuted through all that rubber, vinyl, and upolstrey(sp?).
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I was caught out in the eastern edge of that storm yesterday. Fortunately, I was basically home when the dangerous stuff started. It was far worse to the west.
Still, I read that story this morning with a pit in my stomach. Poor biker.
Still, I read that story this morning with a pit in my stomach. Poor biker.
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I know the feeling. I was going to ride out, and then realized I forgot to schedule a dentist appt. During the scheduling loud booms. I was thinking of just waiting it out, but was real hungry. Wife called worried so I took the opportunity to bail and hit CBPotts. Excellent beer.
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I ride about 9 inches off the ground. I'd have to be riding in a grassy field to be taller than my surroundings! I avoid lightning storms because I'll probably get soaked to the bone...
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Originally Posted by fuerein
I heard this a while back and may not remember it quite right but... Supposedly if your car is hit by lightning the rubber tires will help prevent you from being injured, but you must also avoid moving, the car acts a capacitor, storing charge for a while, and if you move wrong (especially if you touch something connected to ground), the charge stored on the car will travel through you. Okay, I'm not a lightning expect and I heard that several years ago, so make of that what you will.
See this link: https://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_...le_strike.html
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Originally Posted by genec
The action of a car being hit by lighning is called a Faraday cage... and it is not so much the rubber tires as it is the mostly solid metal "cage" surrounding you coupled with the high frequency effects of lightning and the low resistance of the metal cage around you.
See this link: https://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_...le_strike.html
See this link: https://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_...le_strike.html
Yup. Knew it had been too long since I saw that program. Knew I'd get it wrong. Shucks.
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We get lightning once or twice a year here; one or two bolts each time. usually in the evening when I am already off the road. It does not even enter into my planning.
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This is real smart guys - riding in lightning storms.
The nice thing about lightning is: get hit once and you won't be doing it again.
So go ahead - it should help to weed out the lame-brain's from the rest of us.
The nice thing about lightning is: get hit once and you won't be doing it again.So go ahead - it should help to weed out the lame-brain's from the rest of us.
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There's this woman who got hit by lightning thrice. First time, I think was outside. Second time was when she was talking on the phone. Third time was when she was washing her hands and the lightning hit her house then got transfered to her plumbing system. Sh'es still alive today.
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Originally Posted by Wurm
This is real smart guys - riding in lightning storms.
The nice thing about lightning is: get hit once and you won't be doing it again.
So go ahead - it should help to weed out the lame-brain's from the rest of us.
The nice thing about lightning is: get hit once and you won't be doing it again.So go ahead - it should help to weed out the lame-brain's from the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by ken cummings
We get lightning once or twice a year here; one or two bolts each time. usually in the evening when I am already off the road. It does not even enter into my planning.
Honestly, it is just one of those things where the risk is low enough I don't worry about it. I worry a hell of a lot more about being hit by a car than by lightning. The reduced visibility from the rain is much more likely to keep me off the bike.
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Originally Posted by operator
Aren't you the guy that ripped someone off in the road forum?
Originally Posted by chicbicyclist
There's this woman who got hit by lightning thrice. First time, I think was outside. Second time was when she was talking on the phone. Third time was when she was washing her hands and the lightning hit her house then got transfered to her plumbing system. Sh'es still alive today.
Last edited by Wurm; 06-23-06 at 02:21 AM.
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"In the case of a nearby lightning strike, crouch down, put your feet together and place your hands over your ears - a lightning strike can crush ear drums."
I dunno about you guys, but in the milliseconds between a "nearby lightning strike" and the arrival of the thunderclap, I don't think I'd have quite enough time to assume a protective position. What kind of idiot wrote that? The only time there's a significant gap is when it's miles away, at which point the thunder isn't going to crush your eardrums.
Also chicbicyclist, I personally differentiate between being "hit" by lightning, as in: standing in an open field on top a hill yelling mean things about God's mother, and being "shocked" by lightning, as in washing your hands when your house gets hit.
Lots of people survive getting shocked, not so much getting hit.
I dunno about you guys, but in the milliseconds between a "nearby lightning strike" and the arrival of the thunderclap, I don't think I'd have quite enough time to assume a protective position. What kind of idiot wrote that? The only time there's a significant gap is when it's miles away, at which point the thunder isn't going to crush your eardrums.
Also chicbicyclist, I personally differentiate between being "hit" by lightning, as in: standing in an open field on top a hill yelling mean things about God's mother, and being "shocked" by lightning, as in washing your hands when your house gets hit.
Lots of people survive getting shocked, not so much getting hit.
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Real bad luck for that motocyclist. Kind of like the hiker that was trapped when a rock fell on his arm and he had to cut it off.
If lightning is close, naturally take cover. It usually passes quickly. If it's off in the distance, there is really no reason to worry about it.
If lightning is close, naturally take cover. It usually passes quickly. If it's off in the distance, there is really no reason to worry about it.
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Originally Posted by Wurm
This is real smart guys - riding in lightning storms.
The nice thing about lightning is: get hit once and you won't be doing it again.
So go ahead - it should help to weed out the lame-brain's from the rest of us.
The nice thing about lightning is: get hit once and you won't be doing it again.So go ahead - it should help to weed out the lame-brain's from the rest of us.
Storms in the Denver metro area frequently arrive unannounced and leave as fast. Good luck trying to avoid them. Occasionally you are stuck outside when a storm occurs. Personally, I head for a residential area. Plenty of other objects to draw lightning.
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Originally Posted by kyle!
hey. this article mentions something about being killed in a car by lightning. how could you get killed? i mean if the window was down, sure. or if the car has all metal interior, sure. but that makes no sense to me. unless you can electrocuted through all that rubber, vinyl, and upolstrey(sp?).
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Originally Posted by Wurm
This is real smart guys - riding in lightning storms.
The nice thing about lightning is: get hit once and you won't be doing it again.
So go ahead - it should help to weed out the lame-brain's from the rest of us.
The nice thing about lightning is: get hit once and you won't be doing it again.So go ahead - it should help to weed out the lame-brain's from the rest of us.
Originally Posted by jfmckenna
Please believe me if your car is directly hit by lightning you will fry.
Fear of lightning is a good thing - it's dangerous. However, if I stopped doing things I liked to do because it might put me in danger of lightning strike (like backpacking and riding), I would have hardly any fun. Learn to minimize your risks (know where to be when lightning strikes) and how to minimize damage (learn the "lightning position" crouch) and chances are, you'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by Eggplant Jeff
"In the case of a nearby lightning strike, crouch down, put your feet together and place your hands over your ears - a lightning strike can crush ear drums."
I dunno about you guys, but in the milliseconds between a "nearby lightning strike" and the arrival of the thunderclap, I don't think I'd have quite enough time to assume a protective position. What kind of idiot wrote that? The only time there's a significant gap is when it's miles away, at which point the thunder isn't going to crush your eardrums.
Also chicbicyclist, I personally differentiate between being "hit" by lightning, as in: standing in an open field on top a hill yelling mean things about God's mother, and being "shocked" by lightning, as in washing your hands when your house gets hit.
Lots of people survive getting shocked, not so much getting hit.
I dunno about you guys, but in the milliseconds between a "nearby lightning strike" and the arrival of the thunderclap, I don't think I'd have quite enough time to assume a protective position. What kind of idiot wrote that? The only time there's a significant gap is when it's miles away, at which point the thunder isn't going to crush your eardrums.
Also chicbicyclist, I personally differentiate between being "hit" by lightning, as in: standing in an open field on top a hill yelling mean things about God's mother, and being "shocked" by lightning, as in washing your hands when your house gets hit.
Lots of people survive getting shocked, not so much getting hit.
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Originally Posted by capejohn
Real bad luck for that motocyclist. Kind of like the hiker that was trapped when a rock fell on his arm and he had to cut it off.
If lightning is close, naturally take cover. It usually passes quickly. If it's off in the distance, there is really no reason to worry about it.
If lightning is close, naturally take cover. It usually passes quickly. If it's off in the distance, there is really no reason to worry about it.
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