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Originally Posted by Dead Extra #2
Here's one I get pretty much any time I need anything other than a tube..
"Uhhhhh, no. But I can order it."
"Uhhhhh, no. But I can order it."
Sorry brick and mortar shop, but have you ever heard of the internet... sheesh.
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Originally Posted by genec
Yeah, I hear that one too... The stupid thing is... I can order it too. And since I am paying for shipping, I can expedite it... AND get it right to my front door.
Sorry brick and mortar shop, but have you ever heard of the internet... sheesh.
Sorry brick and mortar shop, but have you ever heard of the internet... sheesh.
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Originally Posted by mechBgon
What would you rather have us say instead? It's our job to offer to do special orders for you. It's not meant as an insult to your intelligence or anything.
The problem is that I make the trip to the LBS in hopes that I can have that part right now. The LBS doesn't stock the part, so sure they can order it... but so can I... so what's the point. If I order it, it comes right to my door. If the LBS orders it, I have to go get it, at their location, on their schedule.
I know it is not meant as an insult, but in this day and age... with the internet, "I can order it" doesn't mean a thing.
BTW the last LBS that "ordered" something for me waited until they had a "complete order" to give their vendor... thus my part (that I could have ordered) took three weeks to get from the LBS. I would have had the part in a week... had I ordered it.
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"I've got one at home, give me a day or two to find it" whenever I ask Bill at my LBS for some obscure Italian or French part for one of my old bikes. He always comes through, sometimes he makes what I need. Whenever I'm in the shop, I check out the bikes that are hanging up waiting for repairs. Like going to a vintage bike show. Don
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Originally Posted by genec
"Sorry, we don't stock that."
The problem is that I make the trip to the LBS in hopes that I can have that part right now. The LBS doesn't stock the part, so sure they can order it... but so can I... so what's the point. If I order it, it comes right to my door. If the LBS orders it, I have to go get it, at their location, on their schedule.
I know it is not meant as an insult, but in this day and age... with the internet, "I can order it" doesn't mean a thing.
BTW the last LBS that "ordered" something for me waited until they had a "complete order" to give their vendor... thus my part (that I could have ordered) took three weeks to get from the LBS. I would have had the part in a week... had I ordered it.
The problem is that I make the trip to the LBS in hopes that I can have that part right now. The LBS doesn't stock the part, so sure they can order it... but so can I... so what's the point. If I order it, it comes right to my door. If the LBS orders it, I have to go get it, at their location, on their schedule.
I know it is not meant as an insult, but in this day and age... with the internet, "I can order it" doesn't mean a thing.
BTW the last LBS that "ordered" something for me waited until they had a "complete order" to give their vendor... thus my part (that I could have ordered) took three weeks to get from the LBS. I would have had the part in a week... had I ordered it.
Anyway, my favorite LBS quotes are stuff along the lines of...
"ohmigosh, it's beautiful!"
"It works perfectly now! How'd you do that?!"
"it's already done?!"
Then there are the ones that start with "Well, I was Just Riding Along, when..."
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Originally Posted by mechBgon
Then there are the ones that start with "Well, I was Just Riding Along, when..."
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One morning going for a second test ride: "Go bond with it. Bring it back after lunch and before closing." Funny, that's the one I bought.
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"We'll have to special order it"
"We'll have to special order that too"
"Oh yeah, we can fit you in about 3 weeks from now"
Consequently, you can guess which half I'm in.
Edit: re-reading the other comments I should add: these really are my favorites and are actually quite positive, too...they're precisely what convinced me to learn how to do my own wrenching and not be dependent on the LBS. If my items are so rare as to be perpetually out-of-stock, and they're so backed up with other work that they can't fit me in, they clearly don't need my business anyway.
"We'll have to special order that too"
"Oh yeah, we can fit you in about 3 weeks from now"
Consequently, you can guess which half I'm in.
Edit: re-reading the other comments I should add: these really are my favorites and are actually quite positive, too...they're precisely what convinced me to learn how to do my own wrenching and not be dependent on the LBS. If my items are so rare as to be perpetually out-of-stock, and they're so backed up with other work that they can't fit me in, they clearly don't need my business anyway.
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Originally Posted by countrydirt
"Gee we tried to call you but you never answered," despite the fact that I have voice mail, caller id and call waiting.
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Also "I need a tune up and new tires and I am moving to NYC tomorrow morning so I need it tonight"(at lunch time in august, and we managed to do it, no thanks of course.
"I can get from Nashbar for $20.00" Well thanks to the internet I can look while you are in the store, yes the model below the one you want is $20.00 and they will charge $4.95 to get it to you late this week. We have the one one want now for $25.00 (Remember, not the same thing as the one on line in the first place)
"You guys are not keeping me in the loop on my repair" What the **** do you want? I told you it would be ready on Saturday. It is now Thursday. Do you want me to call you each day until Saturday to tell you it is not ready?
"I brought this in three weeks ago for a flat and now the deraileur has shifted into the spokes. It is all your fault" This from the guy that banged on the door until we let him in(half hour after closing) then *****ed because we wanted him to leave it, so we fixed while he waited(and we waited to go home) then *****ed about the $15 to fix his flat(Same we charge everyone). Turns out we fixed the front tire. Oh well.
"Why don't you stock every seat on every seatpost size so I can try them all out before ordering one online.?"
"Why aren't you guys open from six am until midnite"
"What idiot would pay more than $300 for a bike?" I don't know, the one you are talking to maybe.
"Bikeforums said this was real easy to do, but I am busy so I took it apart to make it easier for you. Most of the parts are in this box. I will be back to pick it up in twenty minutes"
"So this is warranty right" Well it would have been three years ago, if you had not backed over it with your car.
"Sorry to interupt your lunch(But I am still going to pick your brain so I can buy some **** online"
"It has a creak(or skips), but I can give you no help as to when or under what conditions it happens"
"I am going to leave my child that screams a lot and likes to ring bells here while I get my nails done"
"I bought this online and got the wrong one but you guys will trade me even for the right one, even tho I do not have the box, packaging, or even a packing slip to show what I paid for it."
"Can I use your bathroom? ((And piss ALL over the floor)This happens all the time)"
"Why don't you have any $200 road bikes? WalMart does"
"I don't know why that check didn't clear"
"I don't know why my credit card was declined"
"I don't know how those gloves/computer/glasses got in my pocket"
"You don't mind staying open an extra hour on Saturday while I try on some stuff I plan to buy online, right?"
"I can get from Nashbar for $20.00" Well thanks to the internet I can look while you are in the store, yes the model below the one you want is $20.00 and they will charge $4.95 to get it to you late this week. We have the one one want now for $25.00 (Remember, not the same thing as the one on line in the first place)
"You guys are not keeping me in the loop on my repair" What the **** do you want? I told you it would be ready on Saturday. It is now Thursday. Do you want me to call you each day until Saturday to tell you it is not ready?
"I brought this in three weeks ago for a flat and now the deraileur has shifted into the spokes. It is all your fault" This from the guy that banged on the door until we let him in(half hour after closing) then *****ed because we wanted him to leave it, so we fixed while he waited(and we waited to go home) then *****ed about the $15 to fix his flat(Same we charge everyone). Turns out we fixed the front tire. Oh well.
"Why don't you stock every seat on every seatpost size so I can try them all out before ordering one online.?"
"Why aren't you guys open from six am until midnite"
"What idiot would pay more than $300 for a bike?" I don't know, the one you are talking to maybe.
"Bikeforums said this was real easy to do, but I am busy so I took it apart to make it easier for you. Most of the parts are in this box. I will be back to pick it up in twenty minutes"
"So this is warranty right" Well it would have been three years ago, if you had not backed over it with your car.
"Sorry to interupt your lunch(But I am still going to pick your brain so I can buy some **** online"
"It has a creak(or skips), but I can give you no help as to when or under what conditions it happens"
"I am going to leave my child that screams a lot and likes to ring bells here while I get my nails done"
"I bought this online and got the wrong one but you guys will trade me even for the right one, even tho I do not have the box, packaging, or even a packing slip to show what I paid for it."
"Can I use your bathroom? ((And piss ALL over the floor)This happens all the time)"
"Why don't you have any $200 road bikes? WalMart does"
"I don't know why that check didn't clear"
"I don't know why my credit card was declined"
"I don't know how those gloves/computer/glasses got in my pocket"
"You don't mind staying open an extra hour on Saturday while I try on some stuff I plan to buy online, right?"
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Recently, I visited 15 LBSs... that's pretty much the sum total of every one within riding distance of here. At each shop, I asked the same question:
"I would like to buy some good quality, strong 700C wheels. I carry heavy loads daily - trailer and panniers - and I'm a heavy guy <point to gut>. Preferably 36-spoke touring wheels. What have you got?"
The replies I can remember:
"Oh, no we don't really sell strong wheels"
"How about these" (showing me some 20-spoke carbon fiber racing wheels)
"We can order them in for you"
"These are probably the strongest wheels you will find anywhere" (showing me the wheels that come with their cheapest low-end hybrid)
and the old favourite
"What do you want them for?"
One LBS owner was very helpful, and showed me a selection of rims, hubs and talked to me about spokes. He was the only guy who had a wide selection of hubs and rims in stock. His reply:
"We don't really carry too many pre-built wheelsets, as everybody needs something different. I'm happy to build something up to your specifications as soon as you need them. Here's what I would recommend."
Bingo!
"I would like to buy some good quality, strong 700C wheels. I carry heavy loads daily - trailer and panniers - and I'm a heavy guy <point to gut>. Preferably 36-spoke touring wheels. What have you got?"
The replies I can remember:
"Oh, no we don't really sell strong wheels"
"How about these" (showing me some 20-spoke carbon fiber racing wheels)
"We can order them in for you"
"These are probably the strongest wheels you will find anywhere" (showing me the wheels that come with their cheapest low-end hybrid)
and the old favourite
"What do you want them for?"
One LBS owner was very helpful, and showed me a selection of rims, hubs and talked to me about spokes. He was the only guy who had a wide selection of hubs and rims in stock. His reply:
"We don't really carry too many pre-built wheelsets, as everybody needs something different. I'm happy to build something up to your specifications as soon as you need them. Here's what I would recommend."
Bingo!
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My favorite -
Young New Shop Employee(to wiser older shop employee): "Hey man, you have to show me how you sell so many bikes."
wiser older shop employee: "Uhhh...it's not a competition."(back to me) "So we're down to these three seatposts that I carry in house that meet what you've told me you are looking for."
Me: "I think I'm going to go with this aluminum brand"X" one. I like the carbon one, the Thompson is beautiful, but this one is all I really need."
wiser older shop employee:"I think you're making a good choice. Those other posts are nice, but I still think a good quality Aluminum seatpost, stem and bars just can't be beat. Let me see if there's anything I can do for you on the price. Is there anything else you needed?"
Young New Shop Employee(to wiser older shop employee): "Hey man, you have to show me how you sell so many bikes."
wiser older shop employee: "Uhhh...it's not a competition."(back to me) "So we're down to these three seatposts that I carry in house that meet what you've told me you are looking for."
Me: "I think I'm going to go with this aluminum brand"X" one. I like the carbon one, the Thompson is beautiful, but this one is all I really need."
wiser older shop employee:"I think you're making a good choice. Those other posts are nice, but I still think a good quality Aluminum seatpost, stem and bars just can't be beat. Let me see if there's anything I can do for you on the price. Is there anything else you needed?"
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here's some i've been using from behind the parts counter
"Brakes? they're overrated.......they just SLOW YOU DOWN..."
"Is that Shampagnolo?"
"Brakes? they're overrated.......they just SLOW YOU DOWN..."
"Is that Shampagnolo?"
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Originally Posted by Lot's Knife
"This looks like some crazy German valve."
At least my LBS humors me when they see 'em. Also I am happy to say the excellent LBS (Bickels in Burlington) is happy to order obscure SRAM gear shifting mechanism parts that I can NOT buy on the Internet. And gets them for me in a few days too. I don't expect them to stock parts for the one customer in a 200 mile range who even knows what the part are for.
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Originally Posted by InTheTrenches
This would be the guy that just hits the call sender button, then wants to know why we called him. I don't care how much of this "wizardry" you have, you guys either don't check for messages or don't listen to them. Then we get to say the same **** twice(as well as listiening to the automated messaging the first time, that runs a minute to a minute and a half)
By the same token, the mechanic at the shop told me to bring my bike and my tools and he would teach me to some of my own repairs for no cost. His quote, "You don't need me to fix that, you can do it yourself. I'll show you how."
This shop also has many things I look at on Nashbar or Performance for a lower price.
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"Why don't you go and get some coffee, it should be done by the time you come back"
"Hey tell you what. You're gonna need a pump shock for that. I'll put one in your bag."
"Sorry that this took so long, I spent X hours doing and redoing it just right. Oh...no charge, you had to wait so long."
-Chong, Bikes For Life, Antioch, Calilfornia
"Hey tell you what. You're gonna need a pump shock for that. I'll put one in your bag."
"Sorry that this took so long, I spent X hours doing and redoing it just right. Oh...no charge, you had to wait so long."
-Chong, Bikes For Life, Antioch, Calilfornia
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Originally Posted by edzo
"Dog $hit On Tire"
worth 15% markup for any bike repair, or refusal
worth 15% markup for any bike repair, or refusal
Originally Posted by Stacey
Oh okay... thanks
Dude Stands Over Technician, or better, Dumb*ss Stands Over Technician.
But I can see where they'd all be bad.
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What I hear every time I walk into my bike shop, which is 3-4x a week, is "Hey, Man, where've you been? What do you need? How about a cup of coffee? No? How about a bottle of water? How's the wife? How's the kid?" and all of these questions are while he's shaking my hand like a long lost friend.
I feel sorry that some of you guys have to deal with a$$holes or maybe some of your local shops have a$$holes for customers..
Dennis
I feel sorry that some of you guys have to deal with a$$holes or maybe some of your local shops have a$$holes for customers..
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Yeah I feel bad for all of you w/ lousy LBSs. Then again it helps if your good buddy is also the head wrench .
I asked to have some frame prep work done (reaming, polishing, braze-ons etc.) as I didn't have the time. When I asked how much he wanted and how long he would need, what day etc., He responds with "Leave it here now, I'll call in 2 hours when its done and toss a case of Bud on my porch, call shiz even". Can't go wrong with that. And the workmanship was flawless.
And of course I'll order from them. I may pay more and have to wait then go get it, but this LBS sponsors tons of local rides/races, builds and maintains bike paths and trails, lets me use/borrow tools, and the employees are a blast to hang out with. They treated me this way from day one.
Keep looking, there are still a slew of fantastic shops out there.
Craig
I asked to have some frame prep work done (reaming, polishing, braze-ons etc.) as I didn't have the time. When I asked how much he wanted and how long he would need, what day etc., He responds with "Leave it here now, I'll call in 2 hours when its done and toss a case of Bud on my porch, call shiz even". Can't go wrong with that. And the workmanship was flawless.
And of course I'll order from them. I may pay more and have to wait then go get it, but this LBS sponsors tons of local rides/races, builds and maintains bike paths and trails, lets me use/borrow tools, and the employees are a blast to hang out with. They treated me this way from day one.
Keep looking, there are still a slew of fantastic shops out there.
Craig
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I would not call the guys in my local shops "a$$holes", because most of them are actually pretty cool and have always treated me nicely. But it's frustrating that they don't stock what I thought would be common stuff (shifters, derailleurs, etc.). And also the wait time during peak season -- forget that...I ride almost every day. I need to have my rig working right all the time and as I said before if they're that backed up with work, they probably don't really "need" my business anyway.
I will say this: I definitely think it's lame to burn a shop guy's time/knowledge and then go buy something online. If you're going to ask for parts or repair advice, I think you kind of owe it to them to purchase something there (or at least toss 'em a 6-pack or a nice tip or something). 'cause they probably ain't getting rich doing repair work.
It's not a hate thing with me, I just don't like to be without my bike, don't like to be so dependent on someone else. Most repair work is not that difficult if you have some patience, mechanical aptitude, and the right tools.
I will say this: I definitely think it's lame to burn a shop guy's time/knowledge and then go buy something online. If you're going to ask for parts or repair advice, I think you kind of owe it to them to purchase something there (or at least toss 'em a 6-pack or a nice tip or something). 'cause they probably ain't getting rich doing repair work.
It's not a hate thing with me, I just don't like to be without my bike, don't like to be so dependent on someone else. Most repair work is not that difficult if you have some patience, mechanical aptitude, and the right tools.