anyone know if the geometry changed on the trek pilot series from last year to this year? i didn't see the geometry listed for '06 bikes on trek's website.

My brother just looked at some last week. The salesman at the LBS said he thought only the color was different. They look a little unusual but feel real nice when you're on them. Nice bike if you don't like the typical race geometry on most new road bikes.

Tim

What are you looking for? Do you want a bike that has a certain seat tube angle or a bike that feels right when you sit on it? I think that it's kind of like pudding. The proof is in the eating.

not really looking. i already have a bike i'm picking up tomorrow. i was in a different lbs and rode an '06 around the parking lot. it felt awesome! since it's at a different lbs, i can't compare the 2 side-by-side. the shop i'm going to tomorrow is a trek dealer, but the ocr is really the only compact/relaxed geometry bike they stock. if i get up there and my bike doesn't feel as good as i remember the '06 feels (and the '07 is the same geometry), i may just order a pilot instead. otoh, i like last year's colors waaay better than this year's on the pilot.

its interesting, according to the geometry specs, there are plenty of other bikes that should fit just as well (or better)....but they don't. there's just no substitute for throwing a leg over a bike and testing it out.

That's what I think too. Of course, I'm a retro grouch so YMMV.