is this true? drop bars causing problems for ppl down there
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is this true? drop bars causing problems for ppl down there
does riding aero on road bikes increases the likelihood of impotence? i read that info here on the forums, the extra pressure exerted on the groin by pressing down on the bars cuts off even more blood flow than just only sitting on the saddle itself.
if its true, then what puzzles me is that so many bikes come with aero bars, why do people still put up with them? an alternative would be mountain bike style. mountain bike style is the best and should be adopted by every bike. not only do they look more contemporary (drop bars makes the bike look like it was made 100 years ago) but they are more comfortable and most importantly they do not cause impotence.
if its true, then what puzzles me is that so many bikes come with aero bars, why do people still put up with them? an alternative would be mountain bike style. mountain bike style is the best and should be adopted by every bike. not only do they look more contemporary (drop bars makes the bike look like it was made 100 years ago) but they are more comfortable and most importantly they do not cause impotence.
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My friend. 90% of men does not get together with a woman that often, perhaps once a year, or less. Quiet fat women get more of it than 90% of men.
Thus the argument of who cares?
Certainly not the other 10% of men. As you can see I don't care.
Thus the argument of who cares?
Certainly not the other 10% of men. As you can see I don't care.
#4
If that were true — it would be widespread throughout the community and widely publicized (think cancer from smoking) as they have been riding drops for (as you imply) 100+ years.
One study won't make you permanently flacid just by looking at a bike. Get a good fit and ride on. Link to a study about drops & impotence? (no pun intended)
One study won't make you permanently flacid just by looking at a bike. Get a good fit and ride on. Link to a study about drops & impotence? (no pun intended)
#5
This is your second impotence thread I have seen in the last few days; First Brooks saddles and now drop bars. Is this really a huge concern of yours vis a vis bicycles? Trust me, as long as your bike fits you reasonably, you can be assured that your parts won't go dead.
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Originally Posted by exas
does riding aero on road bikes increases the likelihood of impotence? i read that info here on the forums, the extra pressure exerted on the groin by pressing down on the bars cuts off even more blood flow than just only sitting on the saddle itself.
Originally Posted by exas
mountain bike style is the best and should be adopted by every bike. not only do they look more contemporary (drop bars makes the bike look like it was made 100 years ago)
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The best informed and most factual discussion of this topic is in "Bike for Life" by Roy Wallack and Bill Katovsky. Their book is THE best book about cycling as a core element of a healthy lifestyle that includes other forms of exercise and a sensible diet.
BFL summarizes the key studies in this area. And, the studies all agree that cyclists who ride twenty or thirty hours per week with poor saddles or poor riding position suffer vastly impaired blood flow in the crotch area. For many of these riders, that decreased blood flow leads to temporary numbness or temporary pain, or both. The reports of serious, permanent problems involve only a tiny percentage of cyclists.
The solution is very clear: your weight should be balanced between the "sitbones" of your pelvis, your hands, and your feet. There should never be significant weight on the "soft bits" for any significant amount of time.
The best modern saddles, such as the Specialized Body Geometry saddles, are designed to place weight on the sitbones, and not on the crotch. But, these saddles won't help unless you buy a saddle suitable for your own rear end. Most guys like those three inch wide saddles used by 150 pound pro cyclists. Wrong saddle.
And, to keep your weight on the sitbones, your pelvis needs to be upright. If the highest portion of your bars is level with the top of the saddle, and you ride with your hands near the stem, or on top of the brake levers, your back will be at about a 45% angle to a horizontal top tube. At that angle, your weight will be on your sitbones. And, if the top of the bars is level with the top of the saddle and the bars have a "shallow" distance from the high portion to the drops, the drops will be about at the same level as the top tube. Riding on drops that are level with the top tube places increased pressure on the crotch, but not to a painful degree.
What is sad is that millions of recreational cyclists, age forty, fifty, or sixty, have seen pro time trial on TV where the high portion of the bars is three or four inches lower than the top of the saddle and the rider's backs are down almost level with the top tube. That is the "right" position for a pro to use for a 30 minute or 60 minute time trial on a closed course. That is the WORST position for a recreational rider to use hour after hour on public roads, surrounded by motor vehicles. It impairs the cyclist's ability to monitor what those motor vehicles are doing, and those hours of pressure on the crotch are doing damage.
By the way, the studies also show that pedaling with your weight OFF the saddle increase blood flow back to normal (or higher than normaL0 in just a minute or so. Try to raise your rear an inch or so off the saddle anytime you are not pedaling, such as when you are coasting, cornering, braking. Try to pedal for a minute or so out of the saddle every fifteen minutes or so. A good workout, and good for the blood circulation.
BFL summarizes the key studies in this area. And, the studies all agree that cyclists who ride twenty or thirty hours per week with poor saddles or poor riding position suffer vastly impaired blood flow in the crotch area. For many of these riders, that decreased blood flow leads to temporary numbness or temporary pain, or both. The reports of serious, permanent problems involve only a tiny percentage of cyclists.
The solution is very clear: your weight should be balanced between the "sitbones" of your pelvis, your hands, and your feet. There should never be significant weight on the "soft bits" for any significant amount of time.
The best modern saddles, such as the Specialized Body Geometry saddles, are designed to place weight on the sitbones, and not on the crotch. But, these saddles won't help unless you buy a saddle suitable for your own rear end. Most guys like those three inch wide saddles used by 150 pound pro cyclists. Wrong saddle.
And, to keep your weight on the sitbones, your pelvis needs to be upright. If the highest portion of your bars is level with the top of the saddle, and you ride with your hands near the stem, or on top of the brake levers, your back will be at about a 45% angle to a horizontal top tube. At that angle, your weight will be on your sitbones. And, if the top of the bars is level with the top of the saddle and the bars have a "shallow" distance from the high portion to the drops, the drops will be about at the same level as the top tube. Riding on drops that are level with the top tube places increased pressure on the crotch, but not to a painful degree.
What is sad is that millions of recreational cyclists, age forty, fifty, or sixty, have seen pro time trial on TV where the high portion of the bars is three or four inches lower than the top of the saddle and the rider's backs are down almost level with the top tube. That is the "right" position for a pro to use for a 30 minute or 60 minute time trial on a closed course. That is the WORST position for a recreational rider to use hour after hour on public roads, surrounded by motor vehicles. It impairs the cyclist's ability to monitor what those motor vehicles are doing, and those hours of pressure on the crotch are doing damage.
By the way, the studies also show that pedaling with your weight OFF the saddle increase blood flow back to normal (or higher than normaL0 in just a minute or so. Try to raise your rear an inch or so off the saddle anytime you are not pedaling, such as when you are coasting, cornering, braking. Try to pedal for a minute or so out of the saddle every fifteen minutes or so. A good workout, and good for the blood circulation.
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Originally Posted by JanMM
You can wrap your drop bars with tape impregnated with testosterone and that will prevent trouble for ppl down there. Don't wear gloves.
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Constantly riding in the drop portion of the drop bars if they are positioned much lower that your saddle may cause a increase in the curvature of your spine, if anything. Impotence, bleh.
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Another impotence thread? And now one stating all bikes need to be mtn bike style" to go in addition with your "no bike should be riden faster than 14 mph" , "all bike seats cause impotence" , " no bike tire is meant to go flat which is why tires were not meant to be skiny" threads.
If your not a troll you definately have some bizarre views on cycling
Heck, maybe try actually riding your new bike before telling the rest of us the rules of biking
If your not a troll you definately have some bizarre views on cycling
Heck, maybe try actually riding your new bike before telling the rest of us the rules of biking
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is this true? drop bars causing problems for ppl down there
i guess i owe my wife an apology. i thought SHE was the cause of my problems down there.
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Originally Posted by atomship47
i guess i owe my wife an apology. i thought SHE was the cause of my problems down there.
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Originally Posted by barba
This is your second impotence thread I have seen in the last few days; First Brooks saddles and now drop bars. Is this really a huge concern of yours vis a vis bicycles? Trust me, as long as your bike fits you reasonably, you can be assured that your parts won't go dead.
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Originally Posted by roadfix
Also, pushing a 53T or larger chainring causes impotency.
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Originally Posted by JanMM
The big ring on my recumbent is a 56T. Am I at risk for problems down there even though my wheels are only 20 inches? (Sometimes I feel inadequate because of my small wheels. My wife tells me not to worry about my small wheels.)
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Originally Posted by JanMM
The big ring on my recumbent is a 56T. Am I at risk for problems down there even though my wheels are only 20 inches?
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie
Yet no mention of super tight lycra shorts causing impotence? Just a suggestion for the next thread. 

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