light bikes with heavy locks
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light bikes with heavy locks
what is the point of getting a light bike (expensive) if you are just going lock it up with a heavy lock? doesn't that defeat the purpose of the light bike in order to have to carry a 6 to 9 lb kryptonite chain?
would it be better if they had just bought a heavy (and cheaper) bike and use a lighter lock. you still end up at the same weight, but a lot cheaper.
for example, i have a 27lb bike and a 1 lb u lock, so the total weight would be 28 lb.
if a guy carries a 6 lb chain, his bike needs to be at most 22 lb pounds, and thats just to break even with my bike, not to mention how much more $$$ his 22lb bike will be compare to my 27lb bike.
are light bikes for suckers? or should i say are people with light bikes that use heavy locks suckers? what about those who have an light (expensive) bike and carry a light lock? bike ready to be stolen?
would it be better if they had just bought a heavy (and cheaper) bike and use a lighter lock. you still end up at the same weight, but a lot cheaper.
for example, i have a 27lb bike and a 1 lb u lock, so the total weight would be 28 lb.
if a guy carries a 6 lb chain, his bike needs to be at most 22 lb pounds, and thats just to break even with my bike, not to mention how much more $$$ his 22lb bike will be compare to my 27lb bike.
are light bikes for suckers? or should i say are people with light bikes that use heavy locks suckers? what about those who have an light (expensive) bike and carry a light lock? bike ready to be stolen?
Last edited by faceD; 07-13-07 at 04:38 PM.
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Semantics.
What if said person buys a 27 lb. bike and values it enough to carry a 6 lb. ulock.?
Why would you use a 1 lb. lock if you did not want your bike stolen?
Aren't 1 lb. locks for suckers who want their bike stolen?
Maybe the rider does group rides on the weekend or enjoys the better qaulity and components.
Why are you worried about what someone does?
What if said person buys a 27 lb. bike and values it enough to carry a 6 lb. ulock.?
Why would you use a 1 lb. lock if you did not want your bike stolen?
Aren't 1 lb. locks for suckers who want their bike stolen?
Maybe the rider does group rides on the weekend or enjoys the better qaulity and components.
Why are you worried about what someone does?
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It is an old, old joke that every bike weighs 25 pounds...you can have a 15 pound bike, but you would need a ten pound lock to protect it, or you can have a 23 pound bike, and be safe with a two pound lock.
Any lock, of any weight, or any price, can be opened eventually if a crook has the right tools and the right skills. I don't know of anyone with a 15 pound or 16 pound bike that would leave that bike out of their sight...a $2,000 or $3,000 bike is simply too valuable to leave locked where you can't see it.
Folks who leave a bike for eight or nine hours a day at the same location day after day need a bike that looks as if it is worth $20....and it is not hard to make a "pro" quality 1985 road bike looks like it is worth $20, even if it still rides like a $1,000 bike.
By the way, in most cities, it may not make much difference whether you use a two pound lock or a ten pound lock. "Cycling Plus" editors found that the low-priced OnGuard Bulldog u-lock, weighing just two pounds, can NOT be opened with manual tools IF the "U" is filled properly (such as with the rear wheel, plus a large, beefy locking post). So, a $30 Bulldog can protect against manual tools just as well as a $100 chain weighing ten pounds IF the owner correctly uses the "Sheldon Brown" locking method.
Power tools? It is rare for crooks in the average town to use power tools. But, if a crook has the right power tools and knows how to use it, no lock is strong enough. Which is why you don't leave a $2,000 bike out of your direct eyesight.
Any lock, of any weight, or any price, can be opened eventually if a crook has the right tools and the right skills. I don't know of anyone with a 15 pound or 16 pound bike that would leave that bike out of their sight...a $2,000 or $3,000 bike is simply too valuable to leave locked where you can't see it.
Folks who leave a bike for eight or nine hours a day at the same location day after day need a bike that looks as if it is worth $20....and it is not hard to make a "pro" quality 1985 road bike looks like it is worth $20, even if it still rides like a $1,000 bike.
By the way, in most cities, it may not make much difference whether you use a two pound lock or a ten pound lock. "Cycling Plus" editors found that the low-priced OnGuard Bulldog u-lock, weighing just two pounds, can NOT be opened with manual tools IF the "U" is filled properly (such as with the rear wheel, plus a large, beefy locking post). So, a $30 Bulldog can protect against manual tools just as well as a $100 chain weighing ten pounds IF the owner correctly uses the "Sheldon Brown" locking method.
Power tools? It is rare for crooks in the average town to use power tools. But, if a crook has the right power tools and knows how to use it, no lock is strong enough. Which is why you don't leave a $2,000 bike out of your direct eyesight.
#6
If you lock up at the same place every day (as most commuters do) then you don't have to haul your locks to/from every day. I leave my lock at my location so the weight of the lock is irrelevant.
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