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Old 09-22-07 | 06:55 AM
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I'm gonna get myself some clipless pedals, but i don't know which ones. i ride a mtb based commuter on roads.
i'm thinking of either eggbeaters cos they look cool or speedplay cos they're small and light looking.
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Old 09-22-07 | 08:47 AM
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i think u should ride eggbeaters cos they r coolr
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Definitely, get what looks the coolest.
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Old 09-22-07 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nneeiill
I'm gonna get myself some clipless pedals, but i don't know which ones. i ride a mtb based commuter on roads.
i'm thinking of either eggbeaters cos they look cool or speedplay cos they're small and light looking.
whatcha think?
I ride Crank Brothers Quattros on my road bike and swear by them. Check the weight of the Speedplays + the weight of the cleat. It may not be as light a deal as you think...
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Old 09-22-07 | 02:45 PM
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Bebops! Some of the lightest and strongest, plus you can pretty much be sure your friends won't have them.

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Old 09-23-07 | 06:11 PM
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I use Crank Bros Eggbeaters and love them. They are a little tricky to learn where to place you feet though when clipping in.
I have slipped off the pedals when rushing it or when particularly tired. I think this is fairly true of many non-platform style clipless.

I am thinking about getting the Mallet version for winter. Maybe you could look at the candy version?
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Old 09-24-07 | 01:22 AM
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I sell and ride both Speedplay and Egg beaters. Both work well. Both are reasonably light. The biggest difference in performance and it is not insignifigant is the float factor. Egg beaters have limited float, Speedplay has basically unlimited float. Float being how many degrees your foot can move side to side as you go through the pedal stroke..
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Old 09-24-07 | 07:51 AM
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Egg beaters have limited float, Speedplay has basically unlimited float.
Unlimited float sounds very scary. Unclipping is important.
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Old 09-24-07 | 04:03 PM
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Unlimited float sounds very scary. Unclipping is important.
Bebops have a very high degree of float. When I first got them, I thought they felt like standing on flat ice cubes because my feet were no longer limited to 15° or so of float. It took a couple days to get used to, and now I wouldn't want anything else. They still unclip very easily when I want them to, much easier than SPDs.
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Old 09-24-07 | 04:12 PM
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I like my eggbeaters, even though I got the really cheap ones. Not sure about what you mean with the positioning, it's four sided, so you just put your foot down and it clicks in. Years ago I had straps which were a pain with having to flip it to get your foot in.

Float seems fine, although I am not sure whether mine are set on the 15 or 20 degree side. Either way I wouldn't ride with my foot bent that far out unless I was trying to remove my foot.
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I sell and ride both Speedplay and Egg beaters. Both work well. Both are reasonably light. The biggest difference in performance and it is not insignifigant is the float factor. Egg beaters have limited float, Speedplay has basically unlimited float. Float being how many degrees your foot can move side to side as you go through the pedal stroke..
Unfortunately, if you have to rotate your heel inwards to unclip (as I do), SpeedPlays are not for you. There is a modification that will allow you to rotate inwards, but it voids the warranty and the liability.
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Old 09-24-07 | 08:11 PM
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If you don't need float, don't ride pedals with float. Seriously defeats the purpose of going to clipless.
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If you don't need float, don't ride pedals with float. Seriously defeats the purpose of going to clipless.
No, it doesn't.

If you have a halfway decent pedalling technique, your feet won't be slipping and sliding around within the float limit. The benefits of clipless are far greater than having your feet nailed to the pedals in a single position.
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No, it doesn't.

If you have a halfway decent pedalling technique, your feet won't be slipping and sliding around within the float limit. The benefits of clipless are far greater than having your feet nailed to the pedals in a single position.
What's float? I have it with my DA pedals and cleats, but don't know what the mechanism of it is... I mean, I know in theory but don't notice my feet floating when I am riding.

Here's, one for the new DA/Ultegra pedals. The wide(er) platform is a huge benefit for me.
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Unfortunately, if you have to rotate your heel inwards to unclip (as I do), SpeedPlays are not for you. There is a modification that will allow you to rotate inwards, but it voids the warranty and the liability.
Yes the modification would void the warranty. I actually have and would still be riding their first set of pedals, called Magnums. They had the unlimited float you would appreciate. When they developed the Frog, I called up as an angry dealer and whined about the no float to the inside. Their response was they had had enough complaints (I read litigation) about the possibility of throwing a heel into the spokes, they decided to design that feature out of their new Frogs. So I ordered up 4 pairs of Magnums and some extra cleats. I was able to ride them for the next 10 years until last year when I had to finally pick a new system. That is why right now I am experimenting.
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Old 09-29-07 | 06:32 AM
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Yes the modification would void the warranty. I actually have and would still be riding their first set of pedals, called Magnums. They had the unlimited float you would appreciate. When they developed the Frog, I called up as an angry dealer and whined about the no float to the inside. Their response was they had had enough complaints (I read litigation) about the possibility of throwing a heel into the spokes, they decided to design that feature out of their new Frogs. So I ordered up 4 pairs of Magnums and some extra cleats. I was able to ride them for the next 10 years until last year when I had to finally pick a new system. That is why right now I am experimenting.
Curious as other systems don't seem to have that problem and have not tried to design out the inward motion. At one point I was seriously considering the Frogs, but that realization killed it for me. I've been riding Quattros for over a year and a half and I would be hard pressed to find something I liked better.
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Old 09-29-07 | 06:36 AM
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What's float? I have it with my DA pedals and cleats, but don't know what the mechanism of it is... I mean, I know in theory but don't notice my feet floating when I am riding.

Here's, one for the new DA/Ultegra pedals. The wide(er) platform is a huge benefit for me.
I've never actually felt the float in clipless pedals, but you can see it by clipping in and they taking your foot out of the shoe. You should be able to hold the shoe in your hand and rotate it laterally without causing the mechanism to begin to open.
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Old 09-29-07 | 06:51 AM
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One would think that a speedplay with float would somehow detach while the rider is spinning. It doesn't. I have both the X-3 and Zero's with a cumulative total of about 20,000 miles on them. They did not detach, even when the 4 little screws got loose from time to time.

On pedal stroke: I vary my pedal stroke depending on the climb and on starting acceleration. I literally pull up very aggressively to get the power and then the spin going. The speedplays can handle my pedal style.
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