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nekohime 06-07-08 05:46 PM

Why are bikes not complimented?
 
Great article, courtesy of http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080606...IabHsmccT9wxIF


Hybrid cars get compliments – why not my bike?

By Mark Klempner Fri Jun 6, 4:00 AM ET

Florence, Mass. - My wife and I do not own a car. Going carless seems like the right thing, based on what we know about global warming.
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Granted, we don't much like cars, and we chose our house because we can walk or bike to most places we need to be. Still, once in a while, it would be nice to get a few kudos. The old pop hit celebrates "two less lonely people in the world." Why doesn't anyone celebrate two less polluting people in the world?

We recently exchanged houses with a couple that owns two Toyota Prius hybrids. While staying at their place, they let us use one of them. During the month that I drove it, three different people complimented me. And yet, during the seven years we have been carless, only one person has complimented me. (Thanks, Mom.)

Strange how people think it cool to drive a "green" car, but if they meet someone who doesn't own a car, they seem to infer financial limitation, not ecological choice.

To decide not to have a car, unless you live in that rare city with good public transportation, seems a bit extreme and carries the vague threat of dependency. As if I'll mooch a ride home at any moment.

Let's turn this on its head for a moment: Imagine that someone you admire invites you to her house. You're filled with envy at how energy efficient it is, how free of clutter. The sleek bicycle inside the empty carport also arouses your admiration. The next day, driving to work, your friend cycles by and you slide down in your seat of your stylish gas-guzzler, mortified to be seen behind the wheel.

Why is this fantasy? Because, unlike the car industry, no one is going to spend billions of dollars to get you to think this way. They're not going to take out four-color multiple page ads that make you feel sexy on a bike. They're not going to produce Super Bowl spots that equate overconsumption with overeating and leave millions of viewers stammering, "My carbon footprint is, like, really gross."

When it comes to breaking the cycle of wastefulness, you're pretty much on your own. And that's all right, because it's better to be motivated by a concern for the planet and a desire to "live simply so that others may simply live."

Still, whatever green thing you do, few take notice or care. Which makes me wonder how long-term environmental activists keep on. Have they grown accustomed to being lone voices of ecological sanity crying in the wilderness of affluenza?

I talked to Paul Glover, a Philadelphia-based community organizer whose carbon footprint could probably fit into the big toe of Al Gore's. He explained that though he has gotten around mostly by bicycle for decades, he resists the implication that his car-less lifestyle represents any kind of sacrifice.

"I'm pleased to be odd in this way, in a world where normal is destructive," he said. "It's so much more exciting and fun to pedal between home, work, and friends. Even in the rain, one feels immersed in the scene and terrain, rather than just buzzing past."

When I pressed him further, he confided, "I have been powerfully sustained by the beauty of children, whose futures depend on our courage to change. I guess I persevere in these directions because I believe that our children deserve a future as beautiful as they are."

With that, and a glance at my daughter, I felt a bit silly – and selfish – for caring whether or not anyone gives me kudos for going without a car.

• Mark Klempner is the author of "The Heart Has Reasons: Holocaust Rescuers and Their Stories of Courage."

BarracksSi 06-07-08 05:57 PM

Positive comment from me:

Hmm... well, maybe four-page ads or a Super Bowl spot may actually help.

Negative (sorry):

Can't we have a story on bicycle commuting/car-free living that doesn't slide into hippie, New Age-y philosophical rambling? "Beauty of children"? Man... :rolleyes:

smartbomb 06-07-08 06:31 PM

Bicycles aren't taken seriously because of their wide use by children and seen as a "behavior" that is grown out of...
They're sweaty and slow endeavors that don't have air-conditioning or airbags or sunroofs or powerful stereo systems.

Most with this mindset are habituated drivers that don't know what they're missing.

mike 06-07-08 08:22 PM

Your bike might not get many compliments, but if you ride it enough, you will get compliments on your legs, butt, and abs.

That is actually better than getting compliments on the machine.

roadfix 06-07-08 08:25 PM

Well, at least in this country if you commute by bike, people generally think you're poor and can't afford to drive so they'd rather not make comment....

wabbit 06-07-08 08:41 PM

it's like not being complimented if you don't believe in the beauty of children...does anyone ever say, Hey congratulations on not reproducing! let's face it, the world doesn't need any more kids to use up our precious resources!!!

ShadowGray 06-07-08 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by smartbomb (Post 6839003)
Bicycles aren't taken seriously because of their wide use by children and seen as a "behavior" that is grown out of...
They're sweaty and slow endeavors that don't have air-conditioning or airbags or sunroofs or powerful stereo systems.

Most with this mindset are habituated drivers that don't know what they're missing.

Hey, I bike everyday and I'd still have to say...

I miss that bass.

BarracksSi 06-07-08 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by ShadowGray (Post 6839662)
Hey, I bike everyday and I'd still have to say...

I miss that bass.

In all honesty...

+1

jaxgtr 06-07-08 09:02 PM

I have heard more than one women in my office say, I can't ride a bike to work, I would be all sweaty and would have to redo my make up and it would give me helmet hair.

Retro Grouch 06-08-08 06:08 AM

Life has 3 phases:

In the first we worry way too much about what others think of us.
In the second we stop worrying so much about what others are thinking about us.
In the third we come to realize that other people haven't been thinking about us.

Suzie Green 06-08-08 06:47 AM

:lol: @ Retro Grouch...couldn't say it any better. I'd rather go through life not worrying about getting congratulated for what I do or don't do. Be nice to other people...even when nobody is looking.

maddyfish 06-08-08 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by ShadowGray (Post 6839662)
Hey, I bike everyday and I'd still have to say...

I miss that bass.

iPod.

I-Like-To-Bike 06-08-08 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by jaxgtr (Post 6839776)
I have heard more than one women in my office say, I can't ride a bike to work, I would be all sweaty and would have to redo my make up and it would give me helmet hair.

Were they wrong about the sweat, the hair and/or the makeup? Or were they correct, and those issues don't concern - YOU?

BarracksSi 06-08-08 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by maddyfish (Post 6841095)
iPod.

It just ain't the same. No matter how awesome the headphones or earbuds are, you're not going to feel the hairs on your skin vibrate or get a back massage without a smooth, well-tuned subwoofer system.

My last car's system sounded very good for the amount of money that went into it. I've been focusing on performance mods on my current car -- which, although they're fun when I can exploit them, are pretty pointless in daily driving, but a nice stereo can be enjoyed any time.

Sixty Fiver 06-08-08 10:04 AM

I get a lot of compliments on my bikes and these often lead to discussions on cycling as an alternative method of transportation (with all it's benefits).

Just last night 3 young ladies in a car were making positive sounding comments about my physical attributes although they did not seem to care about the bike I was riding. :D

noteon 06-08-08 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by BarracksSi (Post 6838878)
Can't we have a story on bicycle commuting/car-free living that doesn't slide into hippie, New Age-y philosophical rambling? "Beauty of children"? Man... :rolleyes:

I'll take it even farther. I could care less about how green it is to bicycle to work, and most people care even less than I do. I think a lot more people would respond to messages about how fun it is than how environmentally responsible.

noteon 06-08-08 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by jaxgtr (Post 6839776)
I have heard more than one women in my office say, I can't ride a bike to work, I would be all sweaty and would have to redo my make up and it would give me helmet hair.

Well, yeah. They're absolutely right.

Sixty Fiver 06-08-08 11:03 AM

Hot and sweaty with mussed up helmet hair and no makeup... this is a bad thing ?

:D

noteon 06-08-08 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 6841808)
Hot and sweaty with mussed up helmet hair and no makeup... this is a bad thing ?

Context is everything.

Allen 06-08-08 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 6841808)
Hot and freshly sweaty with mussed up helmet hair and no makeup... this is a bad thing ?

:D

fixed

wabbit 06-08-08 12:22 PM

well i'm not exactly miss priss,but i guess i can understand the hassles of the sweaty hair and riding to the office on a really warm day and getting there all sweaty, having to change etc. But that's commuting...it's not going to keep me off the bike forever! people like that aren't going to ride a bike at all if sweaty hair bothers them. I know women who won't ride bikes but who go spinning- in the SUMMER! oh well at least they're exercising.....

ShadowGray 06-08-08 03:38 PM

We need a Mac 1984-type ad for bicycles... that'll definitely revolutionize things.

I-Like-To-Bike 06-08-08 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by noteon (Post 6841936)
Context is everything.

You are right, when it comes to sweat and wet hair, context IS everything.

cooker 06-08-08 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by noteon (Post 6841684)
I could care less about how green it is to bicycle to work,

I take it neither of the kids in that avatar has been diagnosed with asthma yet.

noteon 06-08-08 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by cooker (Post 6843058)
I take it neither of the kids in that avatar has been diagnosed with asthma yet.

I take it you're not very good at the whole social skills thing.


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