Why are bikes not complimented?
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Why are bikes not complimented?
Great article, courtesy of https://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080606...IabHsmccT9wxIF
Hybrid cars get compliments – why not my bike?
By Mark Klempner Fri Jun 6, 4:00 AM ET
Florence, Mass. - My wife and I do not own a car. Going carless seems like the right thing, based on what we know about global warming.
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Granted, we don't much like cars, and we chose our house because we can walk or bike to most places we need to be. Still, once in a while, it would be nice to get a few kudos. The old pop hit celebrates "two less lonely people in the world." Why doesn't anyone celebrate two less polluting people in the world?
We recently exchanged houses with a couple that owns two Toyota Prius hybrids. While staying at their place, they let us use one of them. During the month that I drove it, three different people complimented me. And yet, during the seven years we have been carless, only one person has complimented me. (Thanks, Mom.)
Strange how people think it cool to drive a "green" car, but if they meet someone who doesn't own a car, they seem to infer financial limitation, not ecological choice.
To decide not to have a car, unless you live in that rare city with good public transportation, seems a bit extreme and carries the vague threat of dependency. As if I'll mooch a ride home at any moment.
Let's turn this on its head for a moment: Imagine that someone you admire invites you to her house. You're filled with envy at how energy efficient it is, how free of clutter. The sleek bicycle inside the empty carport also arouses your admiration. The next day, driving to work, your friend cycles by and you slide down in your seat of your stylish gas-guzzler, mortified to be seen behind the wheel.
Why is this fantasy? Because, unlike the car industry, no one is going to spend billions of dollars to get you to think this way. They're not going to take out four-color multiple page ads that make you feel sexy on a bike. They're not going to produce Super Bowl spots that equate overconsumption with overeating and leave millions of viewers stammering, "My carbon footprint is, like, really gross."
When it comes to breaking the cycle of wastefulness, you're pretty much on your own. And that's all right, because it's better to be motivated by a concern for the planet and a desire to "live simply so that others may simply live."
Still, whatever green thing you do, few take notice or care. Which makes me wonder how long-term environmental activists keep on. Have they grown accustomed to being lone voices of ecological sanity crying in the wilderness of affluenza?
I talked to Paul Glover, a Philadelphia-based community organizer whose carbon footprint could probably fit into the big toe of Al Gore's. He explained that though he has gotten around mostly by bicycle for decades, he resists the implication that his car-less lifestyle represents any kind of sacrifice.
"I'm pleased to be odd in this way, in a world where normal is destructive," he said. "It's so much more exciting and fun to pedal between home, work, and friends. Even in the rain, one feels immersed in the scene and terrain, rather than just buzzing past."
When I pressed him further, he confided, "I have been powerfully sustained by the beauty of children, whose futures depend on our courage to change. I guess I persevere in these directions because I believe that our children deserve a future as beautiful as they are."
With that, and a glance at my daughter, I felt a bit silly – and selfish – for caring whether or not anyone gives me kudos for going without a car.
• Mark Klempner is the author of "The Heart Has Reasons: Holocaust Rescuers and Their Stories of Courage."
By Mark Klempner Fri Jun 6, 4:00 AM ET
Florence, Mass. - My wife and I do not own a car. Going carless seems like the right thing, based on what we know about global warming.
ADVERTISEMENT
Granted, we don't much like cars, and we chose our house because we can walk or bike to most places we need to be. Still, once in a while, it would be nice to get a few kudos. The old pop hit celebrates "two less lonely people in the world." Why doesn't anyone celebrate two less polluting people in the world?
We recently exchanged houses with a couple that owns two Toyota Prius hybrids. While staying at their place, they let us use one of them. During the month that I drove it, three different people complimented me. And yet, during the seven years we have been carless, only one person has complimented me. (Thanks, Mom.)
Strange how people think it cool to drive a "green" car, but if they meet someone who doesn't own a car, they seem to infer financial limitation, not ecological choice.
To decide not to have a car, unless you live in that rare city with good public transportation, seems a bit extreme and carries the vague threat of dependency. As if I'll mooch a ride home at any moment.
Let's turn this on its head for a moment: Imagine that someone you admire invites you to her house. You're filled with envy at how energy efficient it is, how free of clutter. The sleek bicycle inside the empty carport also arouses your admiration. The next day, driving to work, your friend cycles by and you slide down in your seat of your stylish gas-guzzler, mortified to be seen behind the wheel.
Why is this fantasy? Because, unlike the car industry, no one is going to spend billions of dollars to get you to think this way. They're not going to take out four-color multiple page ads that make you feel sexy on a bike. They're not going to produce Super Bowl spots that equate overconsumption with overeating and leave millions of viewers stammering, "My carbon footprint is, like, really gross."
When it comes to breaking the cycle of wastefulness, you're pretty much on your own. And that's all right, because it's better to be motivated by a concern for the planet and a desire to "live simply so that others may simply live."
Still, whatever green thing you do, few take notice or care. Which makes me wonder how long-term environmental activists keep on. Have they grown accustomed to being lone voices of ecological sanity crying in the wilderness of affluenza?
I talked to Paul Glover, a Philadelphia-based community organizer whose carbon footprint could probably fit into the big toe of Al Gore's. He explained that though he has gotten around mostly by bicycle for decades, he resists the implication that his car-less lifestyle represents any kind of sacrifice.
"I'm pleased to be odd in this way, in a world where normal is destructive," he said. "It's so much more exciting and fun to pedal between home, work, and friends. Even in the rain, one feels immersed in the scene and terrain, rather than just buzzing past."
When I pressed him further, he confided, "I have been powerfully sustained by the beauty of children, whose futures depend on our courage to change. I guess I persevere in these directions because I believe that our children deserve a future as beautiful as they are."
With that, and a glance at my daughter, I felt a bit silly – and selfish – for caring whether or not anyone gives me kudos for going without a car.
• Mark Klempner is the author of "The Heart Has Reasons: Holocaust Rescuers and Their Stories of Courage."
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Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.

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Bikes: Some bikes. Hell, they're all the same, ain't they?
Positive comment from me:
Hmm... well, maybe four-page ads or a Super Bowl spot may actually help.
Negative (sorry):
Can't we have a story on bicycle commuting/car-free living that doesn't slide into hippie, New Age-y philosophical rambling? "Beauty of children"? Man...
Hmm... well, maybe four-page ads or a Super Bowl spot may actually help.
Negative (sorry):
Can't we have a story on bicycle commuting/car-free living that doesn't slide into hippie, New Age-y philosophical rambling? "Beauty of children"? Man...
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Bicycles aren't taken seriously because of their wide use by children and seen as a "behavior" that is grown out of...
They're sweaty and slow endeavors that don't have air-conditioning or airbags or sunroofs or powerful stereo systems.
Most with this mindset are habituated drivers that don't know what they're missing.
They're sweaty and slow endeavors that don't have air-conditioning or airbags or sunroofs or powerful stereo systems.
Most with this mindset are habituated drivers that don't know what they're missing.
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it's like not being complimented if you don't believe in the beauty of children...does anyone ever say, Hey congratulations on not reproducing! let's face it, the world doesn't need any more kids to use up our precious resources!!!
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Bicycles aren't taken seriously because of their wide use by children and seen as a "behavior" that is grown out of...
They're sweaty and slow endeavors that don't have air-conditioning or airbags or sunroofs or powerful stereo systems.
Most with this mindset are habituated drivers that don't know what they're missing.
They're sweaty and slow endeavors that don't have air-conditioning or airbags or sunroofs or powerful stereo systems.
Most with this mindset are habituated drivers that don't know what they're missing.
I miss that bass.
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From: Jacksonville, FL
Bikes: Trek Checkmate, Lynskey Elysium, Trek FX 5 Sport
I have heard more than one women in my office say, I can't ride a bike to work, I would be all sweaty and would have to redo my make up and it would give me helmet hair.
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Joined: Feb 2004
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From: St Peters, Missouri
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
Life has 3 phases:
In the first we worry way too much about what others think of us.
In the second we stop worrying so much about what others are thinking about us.
In the third we come to realize that other people haven't been thinking about us.
In the first we worry way too much about what others think of us.
In the second we stop worrying so much about what others are thinking about us.
In the third we come to realize that other people haven't been thinking about us.
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Been Around Awhile

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From: Burlington Iowa
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Were they wrong about the sweat, the hair and/or the makeup? Or were they correct, and those issues don't concern - YOU?
#14
Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.

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From: Washington, DC
Bikes: Some bikes. Hell, they're all the same, ain't they?
It just ain't the same. No matter how awesome the headphones or earbuds are, you're not going to feel the hairs on your skin vibrate or get a back massage without a smooth, well-tuned subwoofer system.
My last car's system sounded very good for the amount of money that went into it. I've been focusing on performance mods on my current car -- which, although they're fun when I can exploit them, are pretty pointless in daily driving, but a nice stereo can be enjoyed any time.
My last car's system sounded very good for the amount of money that went into it. I've been focusing on performance mods on my current car -- which, although they're fun when I can exploit them, are pretty pointless in daily driving, but a nice stereo can be enjoyed any time.
#15
I get a lot of compliments on my bikes and these often lead to discussions on cycling as an alternative method of transportation (with all it's benefits).
Just last night 3 young ladies in a car were making positive sounding comments about my physical attributes although they did not seem to care about the bike I was riding.
Just last night 3 young ladies in a car were making positive sounding comments about my physical attributes although they did not seem to care about the bike I was riding.
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Drops small screws


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I'll take it even farther. I could care less about how green it is to bicycle to work, and most people care even less than I do. I think a lot more people would respond to messages about how fun it is than how environmentally responsible.
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Well, yeah. They're absolutely right.
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Context is everything.
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well i'm not exactly miss priss,but i guess i can understand the hassles of the sweaty hair and riding to the office on a really warm day and getting there all sweaty, having to change etc. But that's commuting...it's not going to keep me off the bike forever! people like that aren't going to ride a bike at all if sweaty hair bothers them. I know women who won't ride bikes but who go spinning- in the SUMMER! oh well at least they're exercising.....
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Been Around Awhile

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From: Burlington Iowa
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
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Prefers Cicero

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From: Toronto
Bikes: 1984 Trek 520; 2007 Bike Friday NWT; misc others
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Drops small screws


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From: NYC Metro Area
Bikes: Soma Grand Randonneur, modified Xootr Swift, Trek 1000SL with broken brifter from running it into a hotel porte-cochère
I take it you're not very good at the whole social skills thing.






@ Retro Grouch...couldn't say it any better. I'd rather go through life not worrying about getting congratulated for what I do or don't do. Be nice to other people...even when nobody is looking.