Hello,
The weather is calling "come one, come and bicycle!" as it is so very pleasant out there (crazy weather anyway, once snow, once 30C)
But the problem is I don't have any bike now

So I must buy one

Since I'm beginner in this I have no idea what's good and what's bad, so what bike should I buy? Any ideas?

Once I've had Kellys definite, is that good? It is worth the €1000 ? Or it is better to make some own from scratch? (I mean buy parts etc and do some lego work)

Budget: €1000

Thanks

First of all, almost nobody buys their perfect bike for the first one. That usually doesn't happen until the second (or third, or tenth.. . So, I wouldn't worry too much about what to get now.

Chances are it'll be better to buy a complete bike than to build one up yourself. If you were to build one from new parts, you'd have to shop around a LOT and hope to get them cheaper than the manufacturer did -- which is nearly impossible in most cases. If you were to use older, already-used parts, you'll need to make sure that they're all compatible with each other and with the bike frame itself -- and that takes knowledge that most beginners don't have.

Is this the bike you're asking about?
https://www.e-bikes.cz/katalog/kellys/219-definite.html

It looks like a good mid-level bike. It'll serve well.

Yes that one.
I think I can get only model 2009 now
https://www.kellys-bicycles.com/index..._232&pID=17944


By the way, the difference between some
https://www.kellys-bicycles.com/index..._232&pID=17948
and that DEFINITE is big? I mean if it is better ratio price/performance (or some ~500EUR bike)

And are the KELLY's brand best choise, or atleast good one?

EDIT: The thig is ... After I bought that definite for the first time, I forgot to buy some bag for it, so I went to the nearest shop (not where I bought the bike) and they asked me what was the price of the bike, I told them that 1000eur, and they said "oh well, we could build it for 750eur", but I dont know if it can be true, or it was just some competition strategy of the shop that's why I'm not 100% sure if the definite is bargain or not.

Don't spend 1,000 euros on a bike of you don't know what you want. Buy something cheap, and if you ride it enough, you'll figure out what kind of bike you want. The NEOS is fine, even the AXIS would be ok. All brands are pretty similar, especially for the low-end hybrids you're looking at.

btw they have IRC 5.9 (but the 2008 model) for 822eur (last year it was 1422, so 600euros off) this year's model is for 1299euros.

Would that be better than definite or neos?

I liked the definite last time I rode it
It was quite light, good brakes, and silent in overall.

First question...What are you going to use the bike for? Recreational riding, as in around the local park or "fitness trail"? Commuting? Fitness? Serious, long-distance road riding? Off-road?

What is your current state of experience and fitness?

What do you expect out of the bike? Just occasional fun jaunts with friends on a weekend, or more serious riding.....

The bikes you linked to seem to be a nicely-equipped mountain bike and a somewhat more relaxed "fitness" bike with a more upright posture.

Get a recumbent. Your neck, arms, shoulders, hands, crotch, and wrists will thank you.

Well, recumbent, hmm I don't know I but I will try it once

2Bikewer I will use the bike for sport, like riding to someplace, just for fun - distance like 50-200KM a day. By fun I mean nothing extremelly serious, but not 10km/h and full of stops. Something like to train my stamina and enjoy the speed / wind / pleasant weather and so so it's more like long distance riding on roads 99%.
Current experience... hm I had some MTB bike (some cheap 200eur) few years ago, and I don't like it as on road it is a waste of energy I think (thick tires+heavy bike), then that cross bike - kellys definite, I liked it as it was smooth to ride on it, I have maybe 10 000 km in my legs since I started riding (3years), and fitness, not sure what you mean exactly, but I never did any sports or never exercised (classic day is 12 hours a day infront of PC), so I'm not in a perfect shape, but doing long distances (~100km in a shot with low or none stops) is ok for me even on daily basis.
Well, I expect quality from the bike in first place, so it won't broke/damage in first month and will work for several years ( ), kind of "serious" amateur riding.

I would shop new and buy used. Deals are so ridiculously cheap when they're used off craigs list. I'd avoid ebay.

Buy a dirt cheap used fixed or single while you ride and shop for your dream bike.

Here's what happens to a lot of cyclists: they start out on Mt. or Hybrids and as we get into it more into it they want to go faster and faster with better performance and they move into more performance type, road bikes.

I'm looking for a recumbent. I ordered a can of Finish Line Dry Lube from Nashbar. They sent me a Vittoria 20" X 1 1/8th - 1 1/4" inner tube. They made it good - but told me to keep the inner tube.

Test ride as many bicycles as are available to you. Try to come down to two you like best. Sleep on it. If you are about to buy one, but you keep feeling that the other one is what you like best for whatever reason - even the color - get that one and ride, baby ride!

Test-riding a variety of bikes is good advice. Recumbents are a breed unto themselves; they are expensive, quirky, and can be difficult to find parts/service for. (I have one, built it myself)

From what you're saying, Inasko, sounds to me like that "definite" or something similar would be a good choice. With decent tires, it'll ride well enough on the road, and you can do some mild trail riding as well.
A full-bore mountain bike tends to be set up for a riding position where you almost "float" on the saddle, with most of your weight taken by the legs and arms. This so you can flick the bike around easily in rough terrain. Problem is, when you're not on rough terrain, and just sitting.... Gets old fast.

These "fitness" bikes have a more casual, upright riding position, and you'll be more comfortable doing the type of riding you describe.

If you want to ride long distances on roads, look into drop-barred road bikes like that IRC 5.9. Test ride some first. They'll feel weird if you've never ridden one before.

And if I would go for definite, the tires SCHWALBE CX Comp PP 700x38C ReflectiveLine are good ? I mean if they arent too wide - 38mm, something around 30mm woulnd't give more efficiency? something like less resistance on the road, and easier to speed up or to get faster speed


EDIT:
Which one is better from those two? Definite (2009) or IRC 5.9 (2008) ?
I guess IRC5.9 but it's from 2008 but not sure if that matters that much.

I'm still not sure which one to get, but maybe I will go for definite and then after year or two some scott addict ltd
(so I will have cross and race bike also, coz the race bike wont like off-road)

I'd suggest skipping suspension forks for that.

^^^ At least the fork on that Definite has a lockout, so it'll ride plush when you want it but have rigid efficiency when you need it.

I'd still say it's an alright bike. Put some street tires on it, maybe change the handlebar after a while to get more hand positions. And, assuming that the streets in your area are like the ones I've seen almost everywhere I've been in Europe (train tracks, mixed surfaces, plenty of transitions from street to sidewalk), I don't think that a suspension fork would be unwelcome; I'd rather ride my FS MTB than my road bike in many places.