Looking for a good light
#1
Looking for a good light
As the sun comes up later and later, I have found myself bicycling in pitch darkness for much of my daily morning ride. Even just a month ago there was enough ambient light that my little LED light from Target did the job just fine, but when it's this dark I don't feel comfortable having such a small area of the road illuminated.
So, without breaking the bank (I'll just stop riding in darkness if I have to spend a fortune) can someone recommend a good light for me? Thanks.
So, without breaking the bank (I'll just stop riding in darkness if I have to spend a fortune) can someone recommend a good light for me? Thanks.
#2
The best light I've heard of for under a hundred dollars is the magic shine P-7. It'll run you about $80-90 depending on the vendor. There are a couple of forums about this light over in the electronics forum.
FWIW, those target lights are just "be seen lights" there only maybe 55 lumens or less, the magic shine is rated at 900 lumens, but I've heard it's more like 600.
FWIW, those target lights are just "be seen lights" there only maybe 55 lumens or less, the magic shine is rated at 900 lumens, but I've heard it's more like 600.
#4
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IMO, there's two flavors of light. You can buy cheap lights until you're blue in the face, but when you then buy a real light you'll realize that they were worthless...
#5
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From: Land of Gar, TX
Bikes: Dulcinea--2017 Kona Rove & a few others
This is what I use:
$25.51 https://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16538
It has a farther throw than a P7. I usually ride home after dark and part of my route is on an unlit MUP. This thing fits the bill perfectly.
And this:
$1.54 https://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8274
And this:
$5.14 https://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3499
and these:
$6.75 https://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19770
Grand total: $38.94 and free shipping
$25.51 https://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16538
It has a farther throw than a P7. I usually ride home after dark and part of my route is on an unlit MUP. This thing fits the bill perfectly.
And this:
$1.54 https://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8274
And this:
$5.14 https://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3499
and these:
$6.75 https://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19770
Grand total: $38.94 and free shipping
#9
After I did my first night/group ride, I went looking. Good god, they sell lights for 400-700 bucks! I'd bet you that halogen I got 25 years ago for my motorcycle put out a hell of a lot more light on the road.
They are HID lights and I actually overheard severl bikers complaining because there were folks with such light that can easily blind pother bikers..
Anyway, I have some small, el cheapo LED flash lights (8 LEDs, 3 AAAs for voltage), so I rigged on on my bars. Not bad, but not great. Probably best to use 2 (I think they cost me all of 5 or 6 bucks each).
BUT, mounting it on the bars gives a fixed view. Next time, I'm going to rig two of them onto my helmet (I can do that wthout may damage or permanment change to the helmet). Somehow, I think this might be a better solution as I can very easly make sure the light falls where I want it.
They are HID lights and I actually overheard severl bikers complaining because there were folks with such light that can easily blind pother bikers..
Anyway, I have some small, el cheapo LED flash lights (8 LEDs, 3 AAAs for voltage), so I rigged on on my bars. Not bad, but not great. Probably best to use 2 (I think they cost me all of 5 or 6 bucks each).
BUT, mounting it on the bars gives a fixed view. Next time, I'm going to rig two of them onto my helmet (I can do that wthout may damage or permanment change to the helmet). Somehow, I think this might be a better solution as I can very easly make sure the light falls where I want it.
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But a $100 bike light is *dramatically* brighter than a $50 bike light. There's not much in the more than $50, less than $100 range - the p7 flashlight is the cheapest light I've heard of that counts as a "too see by" light. And I don't believe the $80 for the light includes the cost of the battery, charger, and bike mount? I personally like the Dinotte 200L, but it's like $100 for the light, plus you need the batteries and charger.
Lights that are good enough to bike by aren't terribly cheap. You don't need to spend $600, but you do need to spend more than $50. That's just the way it is with bike lights. Perhaps you could find someone selling their older system on ebay or craigslist...though then you risk that the battery is shot and just a new battery would cost you $50-$100.
#11
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From: Minneapolis, MN
After I did my first night/group ride, I went looking. Good god, they sell lights for 400-700 bucks! I'd bet you that halogen I got 25 years ago for my motorcycle put out a hell of a lot more light on the road.
They are HID lights and I actually overheard severl bikers complaining because there were folks with such light that can easily blind pother bikers..
Anyway, I have some small, el cheapo LED flash lights (8 LEDs, 3 AAAs for voltage), so I rigged on on my bars. Not bad, but not great. Probably best to use 2 (I think they cost me all of 5 or 6 bucks each).
BUT, mounting it on the bars gives a fixed view. Next time, I'm going to rig two of them onto my helmet (I can do that wthout may damage or permanment change to the helmet). Somehow, I think this might be a better solution as I can very easly make sure the light falls where I want it.
They are HID lights and I actually overheard severl bikers complaining because there were folks with such light that can easily blind pother bikers..
Anyway, I have some small, el cheapo LED flash lights (8 LEDs, 3 AAAs for voltage), so I rigged on on my bars. Not bad, but not great. Probably best to use 2 (I think they cost me all of 5 or 6 bucks each).
BUT, mounting it on the bars gives a fixed view. Next time, I'm going to rig two of them onto my helmet (I can do that wthout may damage or permanment change to the helmet). Somehow, I think this might be a better solution as I can very easly make sure the light falls where I want it.
What you don't understand is that among people who bike in the dark, the people recommending a P7 flashlight *are* the cheapo people among people who are experienced with bike lights. Granted, you may be biking a lot slower than us. That would help.
#12
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Check out Lupine, they are not cheap by any standards, but built very well. Check out their Betty LCD 1500 Lumens!!!
https://www.lupine.de/web/en/
https://www.lupine.de/web/en/
#13
For that kind of spec, I'd almost bet you we're talking 400+ bucks. What I found interesting is they show that light as a helmet mount. I can't wait to see what my 2 cheapies on a helmet mount do (and I'm NOT talking about doing 35 mph on twisty, windy dark roads!)
#14
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But a $100 bike light is *dramatically* brighter than a $50 bike light. There's not much in the more than $50, less than $100 range - the p7 flashlight is the cheapest light I've heard of that counts as a "too see by" light. And I don't believe the $80 for the light includes the cost of the battery, charger, and bike mount? I personally like the Dinotte 200L, but it's like $100 for the light, plus you need the batteries and charger.
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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Hey cycco,
What run time do you get on that MTE SSC P7? That thing kicks out a lot of light. I'd love to get one and drop the LED/driver assembly into mine and see what kind of throw I could get out of it.
If I loved it, I want to ride with it, but my commute is sometimes 2 hours, one way. I have a charger at work and usually carry a backup battery or two.
What run time do you get on that MTE SSC P7? That thing kicks out a lot of light. I'd love to get one and drop the LED/driver assembly into mine and see what kind of throw I could get out of it.
If I loved it, I want to ride with it, but my commute is sometimes 2 hours, one way. I have a charger at work and usually carry a backup battery or two.
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Hey cycco,
What run time do you get on that MTE SSC P7? That thing kicks out a lot of light. I'd love to get one and drop the LED/driver assembly into mine and see what kind of throw I could get out of it.
If I loved it, I want to ride with it, but my commute is sometimes 2 hours, one way. I have a charger at work and usually carry a backup battery or two.
What run time do you get on that MTE SSC P7? That thing kicks out a lot of light. I'd love to get one and drop the LED/driver assembly into mine and see what kind of throw I could get out of it.
If I loved it, I want to ride with it, but my commute is sometimes 2 hours, one way. I have a charger at work and usually carry a backup battery or two.
) on one battery. I do carry spares for each light.I did get a Turboferret external battery pack and a dummy cell to do a conversion but I just haven't done it yet. Here's the whole kit.
If the Magicshine were around when I started messing with these things a couple of years ago, I'd have gone that route, however.
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!




