flat bar road bikes?
#26
I replaced the handle bar to flat on my road bike then cut the both ends off by 2 inches. Shifters are still on the down tube(old bike), brake levers are changed to mountain bike type. I call it a "City Bike". What I got from it were, agility(flat bar makes it easier to manuver between cars and quick stop at the same time), little better visablity for cars around me and to myself to look cars around. Brakes work much quicker with the combinatin of double pivot side-pull brake and mountain brake levers. Down side, like someone already said it, in a long distance I wish I could have different hand position for fatigue relief, in the wind for aero dynamic reason, keeping low profile for a long time is little tiring with flat bars. I'm looking into regular drop handle bar road bike for that purpose.
So far, I'm very happy with the set up of this straight handle bar road bike and I get stopped by some people asking me how much I would want to sell it for. I wish I had shifter lever closer to the handle so I can beat the cars at the traffic light drag race(Ok, maybe just 30 or 50 feet), and I'm working on it.
So far, I'm very happy with the set up of this straight handle bar road bike and I get stopped by some people asking me how much I would want to sell it for. I wish I had shifter lever closer to the handle so I can beat the cars at the traffic light drag race(Ok, maybe just 30 or 50 feet), and I'm working on it.
Last edited by allgoo19; 09-20-04 at 07:27 PM.
#28
Originally Posted by D*Alex
the problem with flat bars is that they only offer 1 hand position, not the 3 or 4 that drop bars offer. With a higher stem and a 50cm drop bar, you can get all that a flat bar offers, as well as having more hand position choices.
Agree !
#29
"With a higher stem and a 50cm drop bar, you can get all that a flat bar offers, as well as having more hand position choices. "
This opinion can come from only a person who have never tried flat handle bar road bike. Try it on a busy street where cars go right and left by you. You'll experience something totally different. Zipping through slow moving cars and looking at the drivers in the eye, giving them a smile as you pass them by is a very exhilarating experience. Of course you can do it with drop handle bar but much less degree.
This opinion can come from only a person who have never tried flat handle bar road bike. Try it on a busy street where cars go right and left by you. You'll experience something totally different. Zipping through slow moving cars and looking at the drivers in the eye, giving them a smile as you pass them by is a very exhilarating experience. Of course you can do it with drop handle bar but much less degree.
#30
Originally Posted by allgoo19
"With a higher stem and a 50cm drop bar, you can get all that a flat bar offers, as well as having more hand position choices. "
This opinion can come from only a person who have never tried flat handle bar road bike. Try it on a busy street where cars go right and left by you. You'll experience something totally different. Zipping through slow moving cars and looking at the drivers in the eye, giving them a smile as you pass them by is a very exhilarating experience. Of course you can do it with drop handle bar but much less degree.
This opinion can come from only a person who have never tried flat handle bar road bike. Try it on a busy street where cars go right and left by you. You'll experience something totally different. Zipping through slow moving cars and looking at the drivers in the eye, giving them a smile as you pass them by is a very exhilarating experience. Of course you can do it with drop handle bar but much less degree.
You do realize 90% of the riding on a roadbike is on either the flats or the hoods of the bar, right? I don't know what everyone's deal is with flat bars and how much more comfortable and how much better the handling is... They are less comfortable due to a complete lack of variety in hand positions, slow you down since you are less aero on the bike in most situations, and are narrower than a typical flatbar. If it works for you thats fine but I don't see how anyone could argue the superiority of flat bars vs. drops. Oh and before anyone says obviously I haven't tried flat bars, I have two bikes with flats that I've ridden on and (primarily) off the road.
#31
Originally Posted by allgoo19
I replaced the handle bar to flat on my road bike then cut the both ends off by 2 inches. Shifters are still on the down tube(old bike), brake levers are changed to mountain bike type. I call it a "City Bike". What I got from it were, agility(flat bar makes it easier to mane uver between cars and quick stop at the same time), little better visablity for cars around me and to myself to look cars around. Brakes work much quicker with the combinatin of double pivot side-pull brake and mountain brake levers. Down side, like someone already said it, in a long distance I wish I could have different hand position for fatigue relief, in the wind for aero dynamic reason, keeping low profile for a long time is little tiring with flat bars. I'm looking into regular drop handle bar road bike for that purpose.
So far, I'm very happy with the set up of this straight handle bar road bike and I get stopped by some people asking me how much I would want to sell it for. I wish I had shifter lever closer to the handle so I can beat the cars at the traffic light drag race(Ok, maybe just 30 or 50 feet), and I'm working on it.
So far, I'm very happy with the set up of this straight handle bar road bike and I get stopped by some people asking me how much I would want to sell it for. I wish I had shifter lever closer to the handle so I can beat the cars at the traffic light drag race(Ok, maybe just 30 or 50 feet), and I'm working on it.
As you can see I'm not debating the superiority of flat handle bar or drop handle bar. What I'm saying is they have their own place. If not, why flat hadle bar road bikes are selling so many? It sounds like seely and D*Alex are the ones wanting to debate which one should survive and another is useless.
Bicycle industry is moving towards more variety of types in different uses and situation. When people demand bike for certain situation, the makers go after the market. There were no mountain bikes 2 decades ago, now there are different types even in mountain bike category. What you think, 5 years from now, flat bar road bikes will be vanished from the face of the earth? The answer is, there will be more different kind of road bikes for different use and taste. Who knows, seely will be the one saying "Aha, this is what allgoo19 was saying five years ago!" when you get brand new flat bar road bike.
They will co-exist. If not, the market demand will tell the makers that it's useless and they will stop making. There is no need for debating. It doesn't seem like anybody start making a road bike with a higher stem and 50 cm wide drop bar to replace flat handle bar road bike anytime soon.
I say it again, "I want drop bar handle bar road bike(And I hope it will be a Fuji Team.)."
#32
Quadricepius Exquisitus
Joined: Sep 2004
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From: Pfalzerwald
Bikes: christini awd, caondale bad boy ultra, 26" hardtail touring bike, KHS track
a road bike with flat bars is not a hybrid, as i see it. when i think of hybrids, the tall-framed mountain bikes with wide 700c tires seen in the early '90s come to mind.
one of my favorite bikes is my cannondale bad boy ultra, which is actually a mountain bike with road wheels (real road wheels, i run 700x23) and a double crankset. i find this to be a great bike to ride, it has the low resistance of a road bike with the more familiar geometry of a mountain bike.
i have seen a few others which are road bikes by geometry, run rigid road forks and road gruppos, with flat bars. i have been living in europe the last few years, and this idea is not so uncommon there. you might not see so many in american bike shops, since the practicality of the bicycle means nothing in the day and age of espn 2 extreme red bull adrenaline kill yourself and be gnarly marketing...
personally, i like the idea.
and a flat bar with bar ends offers three hand positions, as well.
one of my favorite bikes is my cannondale bad boy ultra, which is actually a mountain bike with road wheels (real road wheels, i run 700x23) and a double crankset. i find this to be a great bike to ride, it has the low resistance of a road bike with the more familiar geometry of a mountain bike.
i have seen a few others which are road bikes by geometry, run rigid road forks and road gruppos, with flat bars. i have been living in europe the last few years, and this idea is not so uncommon there. you might not see so many in american bike shops, since the practicality of the bicycle means nothing in the day and age of espn 2 extreme red bull adrenaline kill yourself and be gnarly marketing...
personally, i like the idea.
and a flat bar with bar ends offers three hand positions, as well.
#33
Desert tortise

Joined: Aug 2003
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From: Riverside, California
Bikes: Ibex Corrida LT 4.4 (2003), 2006 Bianchi Vigorelli (Red)
I feel the need to jump in on this discussion. I have an Ibex Corrida flat-bar road bike. The only component (besides the flat bar) that is used on a mountain bike would be the v-brakes. It came with 700 x 26c tires but I just changed them to 700 x 25c.
I attached bar ends. This gives me three additional hand positions. I mounted the bar ends so that they're level with the ground.
I can keep up with all the "C" riders in my club. Sometimes I ride with the "B's" and I'm not too far off the back. The bike isn't holding me back, it's the engine.
I attached bar ends. This gives me three additional hand positions. I mounted the bar ends so that they're level with the ground.
I can keep up with all the "C" riders in my club. Sometimes I ride with the "B's" and I'm not too far off the back. The bike isn't holding me back, it's the engine.
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#35
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You do realize 90% of the riding on a roadbike is on either the flats or the hoods of the bar, right? I don't know what everyone's deal is with flat bars and how much more comfortable and how much better the handling is... They are less comfortable due to a complete lack of variety in hand positions, slow you down since you are less aero on the bike in most situations, and are narrower than a typical flatbar. If it works for you thats fine but I don't see how anyone could argue the superiority of flat bars vs. drops. Oh and before anyone says obviously I haven't tried flat bars, I have two bikes with flats that I've ridden on and (primarily) off the road.On the other hand, I also own a road bike that a lot of people don't usually see a lot of - a Specialized Sequoia, a curly bar road bike that's designed with a more upright and relaxed riding position. Visually, aside from the paint job, you would have trouble telling the 2 bikes apart. But riding them, they're a whole different story. I've never had a problem finding a comfortable position on my Sequoia. The handebars are very upright. I can totally just cruise around at half speed, look off to the side and watch cars go by. I never feel "hunched over" - in fact, when I do ride it and need to get somewhere fast, I always end up down in the drops - which feel like they're at the height of the hoods on my Tarmac!
I also own a Civia Highland, which is a straight bar bike (for winter riding). IMO, my body feels more comfortable on the Sequoia than I do on the Highland, so I would agree with "With a higher stem and a 50cm drop bar, you can get all that a flat bar offers, as well as having more hand position choices." The one nice thing about buying a flat bar road bike is that you know it wasn't designed with race geometry.
There is one very noteable exception, however. My problem with flat bars is that in the US, flat bars are actually...straight. Sometimes they curve back a tiny bit, but I feel like I get more rise on the curly bars on my Sequoia. I *could* see how a really swept back flat bar could be more comfortable because you're *actually* not leaning over at all on it - something like this :-) -

(I didn't have time to do a better search, I've seen better pics where they also have a lot of rise.)
I certainly don't have any problem with people who prefer a flat bar - it isn't going to hurt me! :-) I just wonder if they've actually tried a relaxed geometry, tall top tube, curly bar road bike, or if the only road bikes they're tried are the race geometry type.





