Search
Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Bike science....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-03-11 | 12:12 PM
  #1  
cycle16v's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
From: DFW

Bikes: Cannondale, Giant, Specialized

Bike science....

Hi all,

I'm a big fan of the Science Friday show and thought I would share with you a video they posted about how a bike can balance itself.

Something to think about on your ride, eh? Enjoy!

https://www.sciencefriday.com/embed/video/10376.swf
cycle16v is offline  
Reply
Old 06-03-11 | 01:15 PM
  #2  
thenomad's Avatar
Riding like its 1990
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,785
Likes: 11
From: IE, SoCal
I thought everyone already knew that? Nowadays clipless requires a small object, other than that its the same.
thenomad is offline  
Reply
Old 06-04-11 | 07:26 AM
  #3  
ahsposo's Avatar
Artificial Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Active Streak: 30 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,162
Likes: 7,501
From: The Cloud

Bikes: Retrospec Judd, Dahon Boardwalk, Specialized Langster

Originally Posted by thenomad
I thought everyone already knew that? Nowadays clipless requires a small object, other than that its the same.
WTF? I think you responded to some other thread.

OP, thanks for sharing that. Well over 20 years ago Scientific American had a very similar study. I searched and searched but can't find it.
ahsposo is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-11 | 10:19 AM
  #4  
thenomad's Avatar
Riding like its 1990
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,785
Likes: 11
From: IE, SoCal
OK, the video wont play at work but the first image is a bike resting with its pedal on the ground "balancing". That's what I was referring to. With toeclips they will touch the ground and the bike can rest like that, with clipless you need a small object to put under the pedal to "park the bike".

So care to explain more of what's in the video? Rotating mass of wheels causing gyroscopic effect when rolling the bike so it balances itself when pushed?
thenomad is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-11 | 12:21 PM
  #5  
Member
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Austin, TX
Originally Posted by thenomad
So care to explain more of what's in the video? Rotating mass of wheels causing gyroscopic effect when rolling the bike so it balances itself when pushed?
The video briefly summarizes a paper that analyzed bicycle stability in which the paper shows that gyroscopic effect is NOT a necessary factor in a stable bicycles contrary to popular belief. Also, bicycles are not stable because trail, the distance between the steer axis and the front wheel contact patch.

The group designed a bike (well, looks nothing like a regular bike, but it has two wheels) that's stable without trail or gyroscopic effect.

More info on this paper
rocketJeff is offline  
Reply
Old 06-06-11 | 01:30 PM
  #6  
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 43,586
Likes: 1,380
From: NW,Oregon Coast

Bikes: 8

Reading material :

https://www.amazon.com/Bicycling-Scie...7388571&sr=1-1
fietsbob is offline  
Reply
Old 06-07-11 | 07:49 AM
  #7  
MNBikeCommuter's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 871
Likes: 115
From: Minnesota

Bikes: Cannondale '92 T600 '95 H600 '01 RT1000

I'll second that!
MNBikeCommuter is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Johnny Payphone
Alt Bike Culture
2
11-27-15 05:14 PM
show wheels
General Cycling Discussion
3
12-25-11 10:31 PM
Kurogashi
Road Cycling
2
07-06-11 12:56 AM
XR2
General Cycling Discussion
2
07-17-10 10:41 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.