it's time to change this "tradition"...
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From: denver & blackhawk, colorado
this whole "on your left" thing seems to work nicely USUALLY as far as other bikers are concerned. but for the general public, it appears to be some sort of secret code for "do a stupid little panicky shuffle/dance with your feet and proceed to your left, directly in path of bike."
three near misses today, one crash. the crash with an apparently mentally-deficient biker. "hello! this doesn't mean 'turn your head and steer bike into oncoming biker.'"
three near misses today, one crash. the crash with an apparently mentally-deficient biker. "hello! this doesn't mean 'turn your head and steer bike into oncoming biker.'"
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I've never had a problem with "On your left", followed up by "Thank you!"
It seems to work fine on cyclists, bicycle riders (there's a difference!), skaters, walkers, etc.
I make sure I know that the person in fromt of me knows what I'm trying to do too. I don't just blaze on by assuming they will yield.
It seems to work fine on cyclists, bicycle riders (there's a difference!), skaters, walkers, etc.
I make sure I know that the person in fromt of me knows what I'm trying to do too. I don't just blaze on by assuming they will yield.
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I'm gonna have to say that I agreed with this thread. I started to laugh when I read this. Its soooo true. People I think are amazed that someone else may be on the trail besides them and they just don't know their right from their left. Oh well it makes for a few good laughs.
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I love the folks that walk or ride right down the dead center of the MUT. The only thing I love more is the rollerbladers that use the enitre MUT -and If I am lucky, its to music.
Maybe I need ask Usher to record "On Your Left"
Oh well- that's what my freindly little bell is for.
Maybe I need ask Usher to record "On Your Left"
Oh well- that's what my freindly little bell is for.
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Originally Posted by mark48310
this whole "on your left" thing seems to work nicely USUALLY as far as other bikers are concerned. but for the general public, it appears to be some sort of secret code for "do a stupid little panicky shuffle/dance with your feet and proceed to your left, directly in path of bike."
three near misses today, one crash. the crash with an apparently mentally-deficient biker. "hello! this doesn't mean 'turn your head and steer bike into oncoming biker.'"
three near misses today, one crash. the crash with an apparently mentally-deficient biker. "hello! this doesn't mean 'turn your head and steer bike into oncoming biker.'"
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How about:
"I'm passing on you're left"
If that doesn't work an ear-numbing scream seems to get results.
"I'm passing on you're left"
If that doesn't work an ear-numbing scream seems to get results.
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I ring my ding-a-lingy bell, and if that doesn't work, I say "Passing" or "Passing Left."
It is confusing for both neophyte bikers and peds to say, "On your left." I once had a neophyte biker run me off the trail because she thought "On Your Left" meant she was supposed to go to her left.
I have a whole bunch of walkers pretty well trained on my regular route!
It is confusing for both neophyte bikers and peds to say, "On your left." I once had a neophyte biker run me off the trail because she thought "On Your Left" meant she was supposed to go to her left.
I have a whole bunch of walkers pretty well trained on my regular route!
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I yell "on your left" and still assume the other person is going to do something moronic. Notification + maintaining a defensive status seems to work a lot better than notification alone.
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave
I yell "on your left" and still assume the other person is going to do something moronic. Notification + maintaining a defensive status seems to work a lot better than notification alone.
I almost feel bad when I'm about to pass some older people, yell "on your left", and they jump and grab their chest
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Ring bell, wait for them to make a hole wherever, use hole. This requires a bit more time, but you never guess if you wait for them to make the move first. Don't blame the pedestrians; they have the right of way and there are no rules of the road that apply to them. I generally stay off paths because the safe speed is too low.
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I take a clue from bike messengers of old, I make police siren noises, that seems to do the trick. Works with cars too! My favorite part is the looks onlookers give me because that is the last sound they expect someone on a bike to make.
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I find that most people (except for cyclists of course) don't respond to 'on your left' because it means nothing to them. So on bike paths if i'm passing joggers, etc, I say EXCUSE ME. Everyone knows what excuse me means. O course, if they're plugged in to their stupid walkman, tough **** if they can't hear me. Sometimes I just snap my fingers in their face- so rude! But too bad.
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Originally Posted by The Fixer
What we really need is an international audible signal...like beep, beep...
Where I ride, I have to learn how to say "on your left" in at least three different languages.
Where I ride, I have to learn how to say "on your left" in at least three different languages.
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get a bell. ring it. it works better than a voice because the walker just hears the bell, does not have to think about left or right. Most bikers who pass me who say "On your left" are already next to me, with no warning. I'm not slow on my bike, so those bikers are going very fast. If they come up on a ped, there is no warning whatsoever.
Get over your fear of having a bell on your bike. It works.
Get over your fear of having a bell on your bike. It works.
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Originally Posted by velogirl
Get over your fear of having a bell on your bike. It works.
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I think the worst is when their are two or more talking. Sometimes it takes a loud "oh S**t!" and screeching brakes to do the dance and you still windup coming to a complete stop in a big gear.........................damn it!
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Bells do work and if used properly i.e. not at the last moment and not demandingly are polite.
Also the phrase for passing another cyclist is indeed "On your left" but for a pedestrian "Passing on your left" "Passing you on your left" clears up any confusion. The trouble stems from not realizing that the traditional phrase really is a cycling thing and doesn't indicate to the uninitiated just what it is you're doing. There's no reason at all a pedestrian or novice rider should know what to do or not do when it's encountered.
Also the phrase for passing another cyclist is indeed "On your left" but for a pedestrian "Passing on your left" "Passing you on your left" clears up any confusion. The trouble stems from not realizing that the traditional phrase really is a cycling thing and doesn't indicate to the uninitiated just what it is you're doing. There's no reason at all a pedestrian or novice rider should know what to do or not do when it's encountered.
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Originally Posted by junioroverlord
I take a clue from bike messengers of old, I make police siren noises, that seems to do the trick. Works with cars too! My favorite part is the looks onlookers give me because that is the last sound they expect someone on a bike to make.
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Originally Posted by mark48310
this whole "on your left" thing seems to work nicely USUALLY as far as other bikers are concerned. but for the general public, it appears to be some sort of secret code for "do a stupid little panicky shuffle/dance with your feet and proceed to your left, directly in path of bike."
three near misses today, one crash. the crash with an apparently mentally-deficient biker. "hello! this doesn't mean 'turn your head and steer bike into oncoming biker.'"
three near misses today, one crash. the crash with an apparently mentally-deficient biker. "hello! this doesn't mean 'turn your head and steer bike into oncoming biker.'"
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Originally Posted by matt swindell
when i was younger i had this red thing on my bike, it was a light, but built in was a police siren instead of a bell this worked great! by the way does anyone have any expirience with one of those air horns?
Now I start yelling "Passing" very far away, and keep doing it if needed. It seems to work the best.
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From: denver & blackhawk, colorado
Originally Posted by velogirl
Get over your fear of having a bell on your bike. It works.
Last edited by mark48310; 01-17-05 at 08:52 PM.
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I wonder if there is a way to mount the spinner portion of an air-raid horn to your rear hub and hook it up in such a way that all you have to do is pedal backwards in order to sound-off.
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