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Old 01-31-05 | 09:42 PM
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Do trainer miles count?

I want to know what people’s opinions are regarding trainers and the "miles" they log on them. Do trainer miles count in someone’s annual mileage tally?

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Old 01-31-05 | 09:43 PM
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I think so, your still making the motion
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Old 01-31-05 | 10:31 PM
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No. No they do not.
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Old 01-31-05 | 10:39 PM
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if you have a good enough reason for not riding the road... then i say why not

i think that if you have any resistance at all and you keep a decent heart rate and cadence and you're actually sweating... then you can count the miles

it's still not riding, but you're puting miles on your legs
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Old 01-31-05 | 10:48 PM
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this is a repeated debate...I would LOVE to could trainer miles as real miles. LoL. I'd be running 15mph average alllllll the time
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Old 01-31-05 | 11:10 PM
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I'd say yes, mileage is mileage reguardless if not your indoor or outdoor. Of course the roadie elites will argue that until the day they die but its still mileage on your bike and body. My road bike hasn't seen daylight in over 6months, yet I still ride it when I can't get the mountain bike out.
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Old 02-01-05 | 05:39 AM
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I don't simply because my pickup is on the front wheel . If I were riding on rollers I would probably count them.
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Old 02-01-05 | 06:29 AM
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Sure, ride your trainer and count those stationary miles while the rest of us slug it out in the dark, the cold, the traffic, the wind, the hills...

And BTW, I've memorized everyone's handle here that said it was OK so I discount any mileage reports they make.
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Old 02-01-05 | 06:38 AM
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I am using a roller, and the front wheels are turning and my computer sensor is registering the miles I am putting on the computer, so I count them as miles I have actually ridden my bike, I can't separate the actualy riding on the road and the time I spend on my roller. Now the answer, yes, I count them as miles rode.
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Old 02-01-05 | 07:30 AM
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maybe you could count trainer miles as a half. So if you do 4 miles on the trainer when you tell us all how many miles you did say 2 . Becuase its true, your not forging the river like others.
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Old 02-01-05 | 07:37 AM
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No matter what anybody says, trainer miles aren't the same as road miles. They're aerobic workout, and technique practice, but I don't consider them real miles and don't count them.
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Old 02-01-05 | 07:46 AM
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I'm not telling anyone to stop this discussion, but I helped beat this topic to death in this thread.
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Old 02-01-05 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dutchy
I want to know what people’s opinions are regarding trainers and the "miles" they log on them. Do trainer miles count in someone’s annual mileage tally?

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I use my HRM to do a conversion to what I call "RMEs", or Road Mile Equivalents. I use data from previous rides to approximate road miles based on my heart rate. I have 4 levels: 60-70%, 70-80%, 80-90%, and 90%+. I equate each heart rate level to a specific mph, and then simply use time as the final part of the equation. Therefore, I can easily compute (I use an electronic spreadsheet) how many RMEs I’ve done given a specific effort on the trainer. This formula can also be applied to mountain bike rides in order to compare apples to apples.

This formula obviously changes a bit as the season progresses, and I get more fit. However, it’s a nice little approximation that allows me to compare differing rides based on effort. Moreover, it's a much more accurate way to count road miles than simply using your bike computer.
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Old 02-01-05 | 11:15 AM
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Do trainer miles count in someone’s annual mileage tally?
No...unless, of course, you ride someplace that's very, very, very flat.

The calories expended, on the other hand, do count.
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Old 02-01-05 | 12:53 PM
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I'm not telling anyone to stop this discussion, but I helped beat this topic to death in this thread.
Deja vu

Not counting trainer miles favors those who live in warmer, more rideable climates without a lot of snow, blizzards, ice, etc.

If you will look at BikeJournal.com's top mileage riders, every single one is from a "warmer" climate.

Count what you want for the purpose it serves you.
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Old 02-01-05 | 12:58 PM
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wasn't this thread already done?
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No matter what anybody says, trainer miles aren't the same as road miles. They're aerobic workout, and technique practice, but I don't consider them real miles and don't count them.
Thank you, Sir. I couldn't have said it better myself and your taste in bikes is impeccable.
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Old 02-01-05 | 05:43 PM
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YES! They absolutley count. Whether you're riding 10 miles outside or 10 miles on a trainer or rollers you have still gone the same distance. 10 miles is 10 miles. It is the same amount of physical distance outside in terms of inches, feet &/or miles travelled as it is on a trainer. So don't ever let anyone tell you any differant.
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Old 02-01-05 | 08:09 PM
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I think they should count double!!! Riding a trainer is so mind numbing, boring, depressing and insane that anyone who can stand to sit there sweat and go no where deserves any number of miles they choose to assign the non-ride.
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Old 02-01-05 | 08:11 PM
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Mountain bike miles don't add up as quick as road miles so if we are not going to count miles on the trainer what do we do about that. LOL I count hours trained to stay clear of this debate. I trained for one hour today-guess where.
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Old 02-01-05 | 08:12 PM
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I think they should count double!!! Riding a trainer is so mind numbing, boring, depressing and insane that anyone who can stand to sit there sweat and go no where deserves any number of miles they choose to assign the non-ride.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old 02-01-05 | 09:17 PM
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Trainer miles do not count except to help maintain or improve your fitness. ************ is not the equivalent of sex and you don't brag to your buddies about how much you masturbate do you?
If you want to keep track of how long and how hard you ride the trainer (and you should) that's fine, but it is not Cycling. It's not fair that it is cold and snowy in the north, but it's not fair there is no skiing in Florida either. If reporting big mileage in January is so important to you, move south.
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Old 02-01-05 | 10:02 PM
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Trainer miles do not count except to help maintain or improve your fitness. ************ is not the equivalent of sex and you don't brag to your buddies about how much you masturbate do you?
If you want to keep track of how long and how hard you ride the trainer (and you should) that's fine, but it is not Cycling. It's not fair that it is cold and snowy in the north, but it's not fair there is no skiing in Florida either. If reporting big mileage in January is so important to you, move south.
Jeeez did we really have to go there.
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Old 02-02-05 | 04:15 AM
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count them if you want. Its your training
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Old 02-02-05 | 06:45 AM
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It's not fair that it is cold and snowy in the north, but it's not fair there is no skiing in Florida either.
Heeeey, they DO have skiing in Florida. They do it behind dinosaur-burning boats. I guess the other option for northerners would be to actually ride outside. It'd be cold, and the distances less before frostbite set in; but the miles would be real and they'd be quality, too.
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