What is a road bike?
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What is a road bike?
From a thread on brakes from a week ago:
My bike has an aluminum 'touring' frame, Mafac cantilever brakes (for now), drop handlebars, and bar-end shifters, and 700C X 25mm tires. Does that sound like a road bike to you? The implication from the above quote by someone else is that bikes with cantilever brakes are not 'proper' road bikes. Does this mean that the only bikes that are proper road bikes are road 'racing' bikes that have caliper brakes and a maximum tire width of 23mm?
BITD I thought that way - that a 'road bike' was a road racing bike. Touring bikes were a totally separate entity, and road-sport and older 10 speed bikes were just poor imitators. CX bikes were not at all common where I lived back then.
Are there certain characteristics that a bike must have to be called a 'road bike'? Drop handlebars? Then what about flat-bar road bikes? Skinny tires? Than what about road-sport bikes that can fit 32mm tires or older bikes with more clearance?
Just what does one mean when one refers to a 'road bike' in 2013?
Originally Posted by Me
The problem I am having is that the light aluminum fork shudders terribly under hard braking with traditional cantilevers on my road bike. I am under the belief mini v brakes will solve this problem.
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...maybe you need a proper Road bike?
BITD I thought that way - that a 'road bike' was a road racing bike. Touring bikes were a totally separate entity, and road-sport and older 10 speed bikes were just poor imitators. CX bikes were not at all common where I lived back then.
Are there certain characteristics that a bike must have to be called a 'road bike'? Drop handlebars? Then what about flat-bar road bikes? Skinny tires? Than what about road-sport bikes that can fit 32mm tires or older bikes with more clearance?
Just what does one mean when one refers to a 'road bike' in 2013?
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When someone says "road bike" to me I typically think of something used for racing or fast club rides, versus a city bike, touring bike, mountain bike, cruiser, folding bike or cross bike.
Cantilever brakes were typically used on cross bikes, touring bikes and the early mountain bikes.
I don't think there is really a set definition, just whatever that person thinks it is, ask for clarification.
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Cantilever brakes were typically used on cross bikes, touring bikes and the early mountain bikes.
I don't think there is really a set definition, just whatever that person thinks it is, ask for clarification.
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I lump any bike with drop bars and smooth tires into the road bike category.
Most languages I know differentiate between 'race' bikes and touring.
Most languages I know differentiate between 'race' bikes and touring.
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And I consider a touring bike to be a sub class of road bike - not that it's important enough for an argument.
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No such thing as a flat bar road bike except in the wet dreams of hybrid marketing men.
Road bikes probably still encompass drop-bar tourers. Cyclocross bikes? Maybe, but they came along a bit later and are probably now a class of their own.
Definitions overlap. It doesn't really matter, as long as you like what you are riding.
Road bikes probably still encompass drop-bar tourers. Cyclocross bikes? Maybe, but they came along a bit later and are probably now a class of their own.
Definitions overlap. It doesn't really matter, as long as you like what you are riding.
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I guess it really depends in how you define the term. If it is originally designed for use on pavement, I consider it a road bike and a road RACING bike is a subcategory of that. On the other hand, when talking to others, I don't put my Schwinn Crosscut or my hybridized drop bar MTB in the road bike category. I think many define the term with the implied "racing" after it. Best answer is "it depends".
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^^See? It's just this sort of rancor that's keeping English speakers behind the rest of the world.
We should do as the others and call them racing, touring, or hybrid bikes.
We should do as the others and call them racing, touring, or hybrid bikes.
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Rancor? No rancour here. As it happens, when I was growing up in the UK (before the term "hybrid bike" had been invented) there were just "bikes". People differentiated between "racing bikes" and "bikes". Some maunfacturers talked about "roadsters". Simpler world.
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All bikes are designed to be ridden on pavement but some are designed to be ridden exclusively on pavement. Touring and road-sport bikes are not really intended to go anywhere rougher than a gravel road. Road racing bikes are generally completely out of their environment on any loose surface.
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I always considered any diamond frame with drop bars to be a road bike, including both touring and cyclocross bikes (particularly when it has slicks). I don't get upset when people don't consider the latter two (touring and cyclocross) however.
Wouldn't that be "rode bike".
Wouldn't that be "rode bike".
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What you are referring to are actually twenty or thirty speed bikes.
Sram only missed going back to ten speeds by one generation of mountain bike components. Since so many people still call drop-bar bikes 'ten speeds', perhaps they will start calling all terrain bikes 'eleven speeds'.
Sram only missed going back to ten speeds by one generation of mountain bike components. Since so many people still call drop-bar bikes 'ten speeds', perhaps they will start calling all terrain bikes 'eleven speeds'.
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Bicycle definitions are slowly beginning to blur and morph into something they never used to be. For example, some of yesterday's mtbikes look like today's hybrids. Some dual suspension hybrids look exactly like certain 29er ht mtbikes to me. I always thought that a road bike had drop handlebars and skinny tires. However, if you look at the salsa fargo with its fat tires...Is that really a road bike?
Look at the now defunct trek sawyer. It looked more like a cruiser, but it was considered a mtb. Sheesh!
Look at the now defunct trek sawyer. It looked more like a cruiser, but it was considered a mtb. Sheesh!
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Also, I competed in road races in the late 80s through mid 90s and we called the bikes we had 'road bikes' even beck then.
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When I started racing in 1965, we had road bikes and track bikes. I raced on the road with a Helyett track bike, which the ABL allowed at that time (as long as the track bike had "one working brake," to quote the ABL rule book). No touring bikes; at least, that term didn't come into use until the mid-'70s, as I recall.
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When I started racing in 1965, we had road bikes and track bikes. I raced on the road with a Helyett track bike, which the ABL allowed at that time (as long as the track bike had "one working brake," to quote the ABL rule book). No touring bikes; at least, that term didn't come into use until the mid-'70s, as I recall.
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When was Road Bike Action first published? Mountain Bike Action existed quite a while before RBA hit the stands. Near as I can recall.
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