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MiniLance 02-27-05 09:46 PM

Curious???
 
Can Cop give you a ticket for going 25Mph in a 15Mph Zone?

phantomcow2 02-27-05 09:51 PM

I was wondering the same thing a few hours ago. I know motorcycles are supposed to follow the same rules of the road, but they also follow the road rules becuase they are on the road, the same path as the cars. For a bike i would hope we dont ride in the car lanes, so i don't think so.

MiniLance 02-27-05 09:55 PM

Well I cop came behind me and i was going about 25-27 in a 15Mph zone and he ran his sirens and i pulled over and he told me that I was going to fast and that he could give me a ticket and I was like i'm very sorry and he said be careful good bye and drove off

phantomcow2 02-27-05 09:58 PM

yea but do you carry a license and registration when your riding for the car your not in?

MiniLance 02-27-05 09:59 PM

No I don't carry anything I have a Texas Id. I'm only 14!

phantomcow2 02-27-05 10:03 PM

There you go! Im 15 so i dont have one either. BUt if i recall correctly when you get pulled over they say "can i see your license?". Well if we're not carrying a license for something we dont even need one for....how will he ticket you?

BostonFixed 02-27-05 10:04 PM

Were you going down a hill, or riding on flat ground?

MiniLance 02-27-05 10:06 PM

A name and address? I was biking a long time today I biked over a 100Miles today I was very happy. I'm thinking about taking a trip with some people i know that goes from Houston and New Orleans. Has anyone done a long trip like that?

MiniLance 02-27-05 10:07 PM

Flat ground

Rev.Chuck 02-27-05 10:11 PM

Yes they can write you a ticket. You now have to present ID if a law officer requests it, which at 14 you might not have. So you could give a false name and address, which I do not reccomend as that could get you in more trouble than a ticket.
He was probably doing it for his amusement more than anything.

MiniLance 02-27-05 10:14 PM

I never carry it unless I go for a trip like with my Grandmother that we ride and we go on day trips and ride until we can't ride then find a hotel and sleep then head off again.

Brian 02-27-05 10:15 PM

I California, there are only 2 types of traffic, per the vehicle code: Pedestrian and non-pedestrian. So yes, you can get a ticket on a bike. A ticket is a summons, or "Notice to appear", which means you either have to go to court to contest it, or pay a fine. In some cases, you won't have the option of a fine without going to court. You do not need a license to get a ticket. Sucks, but I've been there, so I speak from experience.

MattP. 02-27-05 11:10 PM

My mom got a ticket for running a stop sign on her bike when she was like 13. had to go to court and pay a fine.

Stupid laws :)

Pedal Wench 02-27-05 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by phantomcow2
I was wondering the same thing a few hours ago. I know motorcycles are supposed to follow the same rules of the road, but they also follow the road rules becuase they are on the road, the same path as the cars. For a bike i would hope we dont ride in the car lanes, so i don't think so.

If you are riding on the road, then you must follow the same rules as cars. Is there a speed limit on your bike path? If it's a bike lane, on a road, then you, the motorcyclist and cars all follow the same laws.

MattP. 02-27-05 11:15 PM

Hey minilance, i just asked my dad your question. he has been a cop in CA for the last 20 or so years. He said (in CA at least) that yes a cop can pull you over for speeding. But you are not required to carry a lisence to operate a bike (duh!). then i asked "well couldnt you give a fake name/address?" and he said ya, but cops will sometimes ask you to prove your identity. Like ask questions about your parents and stuff, and they can check it in the little computer in their car, lol

-Matt

Brian 02-27-05 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by MattP.
My mom got a ticket for running a stop sign on her bike when she was like 13. had to go to court and pay a fine.

Stupid laws :)

Not so stupid law. I'm sure at the very least your mum paid more attention before she ran stop signs after that. If she ran a stop sign, and instead of a cop there to ticket her, it was some drunk who hit and killed her, you wouldn't be here today.

PWRDbyTRD 02-27-05 11:42 PM

Actually as far as not proving ID I think in some states they can detain or arrest you til they figure out who you are.

Rowan 02-27-05 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by phantomcow2
For a bike i would hope we dont ride in the car lanes, so i don't think so.

Pardon?!!!

PWRDbyTRD 02-27-05 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by Rowan
Pardon?!!!

I ride in the car lanes whenever possible. If there are two lanes, I take one.

my58vw 02-27-05 11:48 PM

You can recieve a ticket in California for speeding, I have been with cyclists who have been cited. Generally you have to go to court and talk to the judge who will either throw it out or reduce the fine...

And yes they can detain you for identification purposes...

Brian 02-27-05 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by phantomcow2
For a bike i would hope we dont ride in the car lanes, so i don't think so.

Where do you ride?

phantomcow2 02-28-05 05:18 AM

i mean you dont tgo riding in the middle of the road, yo u know like 5 feet to the left of the two yellow lines. I would hope people ride on the SIDE of the road.

MattP. 02-28-05 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by my58vw
And yes they can detain you for identification purposes...

not if you are on a bike. you are not required to carry an ID to operate a bike. So no, if you are on a bike, they can not detain you for having no ID.

powers2b 02-28-05 08:46 AM

In Ohio bikes are considered vehicles and are regulated by the same traffic laws as other vehicles.
I know several cyclists that have received traffic tickets and a couple that earned a DUI.

molten 02-28-05 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by my58vw
You can recieve a ticket in California for speeding, I have been with cyclists who have been cited. Generally you have to go to court and talk to the judge who will either throw it out or reduce the fine...

And yes they can detain you for identification purposes...

that's right; but we're in the tightly conservative state of California (esp. soCal) so what do you xpect. And even more now, with the tight state budget. When I was had a lawsuit against cops in Carlsbad in the early '90s: I got an $85.00 cit. for driving at night w/o a light on the bike; $35.00 cit. for an incomplete (no foot contact --- no standstill) stop at a 4 way stopsign intersection; the 3rd one (forgotten what the issue was) was kicked out. Obviously all harassment tickets, due to the lawsuit. >>But I'm only sharing this to exlpain the high amount of fines that bicyclists have to pay at that time, for such minor situations.<<<

demoncyclist 02-28-05 08:58 AM

You CAN be detained for not having ID, until they know who you are, then they will release you unless they have another reason to hold you. You CAN be ticketed, just like a motor vehicle operator, in most states. It doesn't matter that you don't NEED to carry ID to ride a bike, nor does it matter that you are too young to have a valid ID. If you do something in violation of the rules of the road for the state or city/town you are riding in, the police have the right (and responsibility) to pull you over and cite you for that violation. If they ask for ID, and you have it, you must turn it over to them. If you don't have any, they can take your word for who you are, or detain you until you prove who you are. Personally, I never go anywhere without ID. I wear a road ID tag on my watchband with name, address, phone, wife's phone, and blood type/allergies. Just in case!!!

55/Rad 02-28-05 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by phantomcow2
i mean you dont tgo riding in the middle of the road, yo u know like 5 feet to the left of the two yellow lines. I would hope people ride on the SIDE of the road.

Riding in traffic is a lot more than just hangin in the designated bike lane on the right shoulder. There are many situations where that is more dangerous that taking an entire traffic lane, especially in crowded downtown areas.

Rule of thumb I use in traffic - if I can ride at the speed of the car traffic, I will very likely be using the lane as any car would.

55/Rad

BlazingPedals 02-28-05 09:07 AM

If you're cycling, and an officer asks for ID, it's best to give them something OTHER than your driver's license - they usually don't understand that bikes are subtly different from motor vehicles, and if they're going to write you a ticket, you don't want it connected with your drivers license, which is technically your 'motor vehicle operator's license.' Tickets received on your bicycle shouldn't count as points against your driver's license. That'd suck having your car insurance go up because of something you did on your bike!

Yes, they can write you a ticket for speeding, but OTOH, bicycles are not required to have speedometers. So by extension, you aren't required to know how fast you're going. Speed zones might be unenforceable against bikes (check with your lawyer on that one though.)

Phantomcow2: Why do you hope that MiniLance wasn't in the traffic lane? At that speed, I hope he wasn't on a sidewalk!

Juha 02-28-05 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by MattP.
not if you are on a bike. you are not required to carry an ID to operate a bike. So no, if you are on a bike, they can not detain you for having no ID.

Doubt this helps, but here's what happens where I live: you are not required to carry an ID to operate a bike. But if you break the law the police may require you to identify yourself. At that point riding a bike has got nothing to do with it - your ID is required for other reasons. They may detain you until they are convinced you are who you claim to be.

--J

DriveBy 02-28-05 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Expatriate
Not so stupid law. I'm sure at the very least your mum paid more attention before she ran stop signs after that. If she ran a stop sign, and instead of a cop there to ticket her, it was some drunk who hit and killed her, you wouldn't be here today.

I'm pretty sure that smilie face he included meant he was kidding.

I've been pulled over a few times, but haven't been ticketed yet. One of them was for not stopping at a stop sign. I stopped and waggled the wheel to keep my balance, then continued through the empty intersection. The cop pulled me over because according to him it's not a stop unless I put my foot down.

I also got pulled over a couple of times while stationed overseas because they required you to wear a reflective vest when riding on base at any time, day or night. I forgot my vest twice on sunny days and got caught.

Way back when I was in high school I got pulled over twice for speeding. Both were in 20mph zones.


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