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03-17-05, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dbg
I like Sheldon Brown's abandonment of the French spelling (and presumably pronunciation) in favor of derailer. BTW, shouldn't it more appropriately be RE-railer. Sounds more optimistic to me.
We used to discuss bikes, amongst other things, long before I found this place.
He spelled it derailer, so that's what I've kept using since.
Its pronounced like that, it's shorter, and it's definitely more English in its style, so why not use it?
The Swedish word for it is "vδxel" which simply means "shifter".
And the shifters are instead called "vδxelreglage", roughly: "shifter levers".
03-17-05, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by F=MA
Motobecane? Moe - tow - be - cane? And I'm really unsure of what syllable has the emphasis.
French does not have stressed syllables like English does, making Motobecane "mo-to-be-can" without any syllable stressed more than the others.
03-17-05, 09:01 PM
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- - I once called the Giro folks to ask about their helmet. They pronounce it to rhyme with
"zero" with a soft G.
How about "Campagnolo"?
"zero" with a soft G.
How about "Campagnolo"?
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03-17-05, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 77Univega
How about "Campagnolo"?
03-18-05, 04:01 AM
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I've resisted the Aussie spelling and pronunciation of many words for almost 2 years now. I finally had to give in on at least one word. Each week I'm responsible for making sure about 1,300 metric tonnes of ALUMINIUM get from the smelter to the port. That's about 2.8 million pounds for my yankee mates.
03-18-05, 08:56 AM
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Come si pronuncia?
kam-PAN-yo-lo ... the a sounds like the a in father, gn sounds like the ni in onion
bee-AHN-kee ... Bian sounds like beyond (minus the d of course), the ch sounds like a k
Buon viaggio!
Originally Posted by 77Univega
How about "Campagnolo"?
Originally Posted by Vision-
What's the proper pronunciation for Bianchi?
Buon viaggio!
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03-18-05, 09:25 AM
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Interesting thread, I only have one to add because I was corrected by someone last weekend.
Voler = Vo-Lay
Voler = Vo-Lay
03-18-05, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat
cycling is an international sport, most popular in europe
if you're an american like me, you're bound to mispronounce stuff, I'm sure europeans mispronouce stuff from different countries as well
if you're an american like me, you're bound to mispronounce stuff, I'm sure europeans mispronouce stuff from different countries as well
When it comes to European foreign words, including Slavic, the vowels, a,e,i,o,u are typically pronounced by sound and not by the English name for the letter; for example, 'a' is not 'aye,' but 'a' as in 'apple', 'e' is not 'ee', but 'e' as in 'end', 'i' is not 'eye' but 'i' as in 'in' or 'ee' as in 'been', 'o' is not 'oh' but 'o' as on 'on', 'u' is not 'you', but 'oo' as in 'boot.' There are variations, but generally the above is the rule. English is the exception. Hope this helps.
03-18-05, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dbg
I have always assumed: MOW-tow-ba-CAHN
03-18-05, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
I've resisted the Aussie spelling and pronunciation of many words for almost 2 years now. I finally had to give in on at least one word. Each week I'm responsible for making sure about 1,300 metric tonnes of ALUMINIUM get from the smelter to the port. That's about 2.8 million pounds for my yankee mates.
From the home of Aluminum, I'm glad your enjoying your tour of duty.....and don't let them break you.
03-18-05, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ίεΠ§λλΠ
bee-AHN-kee ... Bian sounds like beyond (minus the d of course), the ch sounds like a k
Buon viaggio!
Buon viaggio!
03-18-05, 07:21 PM
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Heck, I usually just point and say "rim", "seat", "helmet", "pump", "thingamajig", and "bike". Them fancy words are for the high-falutin' folks.
03-18-05, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Artmo
Well, at least some here are making the effort. Europeans do mispronounce foreign words, but at least in general they try to do it right. Americans seem to go out of their way to mispronounce words and names. e.g.Putin becomes Pootn, instead of Pooteen, Iraq becomes Eye-rak, Italian becomes Eye-talian and my wife's name, Maureen, with stress on the first syllable, invariably becomes Marine. It's just ignorance and rudeness, especially when she has just introduced herself and she gets back " Hi, Marine."
When it comes to European foreign words, including Slavic, the vowels, a,e,i,o,u are typically pronounced by sound and not by the English name for the letter; for example, 'a' is not 'aye,' but 'a' as in 'apple', 'e' is not 'ee', but 'e' as in 'end', 'i' is not 'eye' but 'i' as in 'in' or 'ee' as in 'been', 'o' is not 'oh' but 'o' as on 'on', 'u' is not 'you', but 'oo' as in 'boot.' There are variations, but generally the above is the rule. English is the exception. Hope this helps.
When it comes to European foreign words, including Slavic, the vowels, a,e,i,o,u are typically pronounced by sound and not by the English name for the letter; for example, 'a' is not 'aye,' but 'a' as in 'apple', 'e' is not 'ee', but 'e' as in 'end', 'i' is not 'eye' but 'i' as in 'in' or 'ee' as in 'been', 'o' is not 'oh' but 'o' as on 'on', 'u' is not 'you', but 'oo' as in 'boot.' There are variations, but generally the above is the rule. English is the exception. Hope this helps.
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03-18-05, 08:09 PM
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i thought mavic was maVEEK or mayVEEK... abd selle was sellEE....
03-18-05, 09:12 PM
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I skipped right to the bottom, so forgive me if this is covered...
LeMond = "luhMOAN"
As published in a local newspaper. He was speeding down 62 and got pegged. The cop said "Hey, Greg LeMond (as in pond)!" and he flipped out and corrected her in a vile fasion. WOund up in court, I think, or at least had to apologize publicly. Something like that.
Word.
LeMond = "luhMOAN"
As published in a local newspaper. He was speeding down 62 and got pegged. The cop said "Hey, Greg LeMond (as in pond)!" and he flipped out and corrected her in a vile fasion. WOund up in court, I think, or at least had to apologize publicly. Something like that.
Word.
03-18-05, 10:37 PM
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At least the cop didn't say "Hey, aren't you the guy that won all those races and now puts your name on really cheap bike stuff?".
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Isn't "selle" pronounced "sell"?
And I pronounce "topeak" as "tow-peak"
And I pronounce "topeak" as "tow-peak"
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Pannier = Pan-yay ... that's how the french word is pronounced.
Derailleur = Dayray-oer, roughly
For many of the words in cycling, it helps to think about what the French or Italian pronunciation might be. Chances are you'll be closer that if you go with what the American pronunciation might be.
Derailleur = Dayray-oer, roughly
For many of the words in cycling, it helps to think about what the French or Italian pronunciation might be. Chances are you'll be closer that if you go with what the American pronunciation might be.
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I should add that I'm not going to pronounce things they way they do in other countries, I'm going to use the local pronunciation. If you go into a bike shop and ask for a derailleur anyway other than "d rail er", they're going to suspect you're either from another country, or want to be seen as a snob. Over here, they don't even bother, it's front mech, rear mech.
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Originally Posted by Machka
Isn't "selle" pronounced "sell"?
03-19-05, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
I've resisted the Aussie spelling and pronunciation of many words for almost 2 years now. I finally had to give in on at least one word. Each week I'm responsible for making sure about 1,300 metric tonnes of ALUMINIUM get from the smelter to the port. That's about 2.8 million pounds for my yankee mates.
03-19-05, 08:17 AM
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True, but:
From: https://zapatopi.net/afdb.html
Aluminum was originally named "alumium" by Sir Humphry Davy, who later changed it to "aluminum" (perhaps in an attempt to make it more Latinized since alumen is Latin for alum, the aluminum compound that the name is derived from). The British (and allied English speakers) shortly thereafter changed the name once more, this time to "aluminium" so that it would again match the pattern of most other elements (helium, sodium, etc.), while the North Americans eventually decided to keep the second, slightly more traditional name. I predict that North Americans will adopt the more regular "-ium" spelling by the year 2050, prompting the British to start calling it "alumininium". At that point debate can begin on changing "platinum" to "platinium".
03-19-05, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
I should add that I'm not going to pronounce things they way they do in other countries, I'm going to use the local pronunciation. .
03-19-05, 11:51 AM
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How about the pronounciation of Veloce? Is it vel-OSE-ee, with three syllibles or VEL-ose, with two?