just for discussion,,, was surfing the net came upon the Diamondback website ,browsing around came upon a serios af full carbon worth $8500.00, I had no idea diamondback made bikes of that quality!!! anybody familiar with it???

Diamondback is a brand that is designed and manufactured by Raleigh USA. So there is lots of engineering talent on tap.

yea I guess, but I read here some where that diamondback had gone down hill ala Schwinn?? anyway very impressed,, full carbon dura ace components, beautiful bike,,,,

They make a pretty good line of mtn bikes now too.

<--- owns a db sortie 29er

The more you pay; the more it's worth.

I guess I'm making this a big deal but I was under the impression that diamondback only made bikes like the one I own, diamondback Sorrento, that when new it's worth was about 300.00,,, they do have nice bikes,,,,,,,,,,,

... but Raleigh USA, contracts out the actual Manufacturing to another Company.. Taiwan does A Lot of that .

Very few Brands are Not made There , these days..

Actually, very few bikes are made in Taiwan anymore; even Giant (a Taiwanese company) only makes its very top end bikes in Taiwan; the vast majority are made in China.

Technically they are Both Chinas Chinese Communist Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

after joining to get Japan out of China , they fought each other ..

Mao won the Mainland PRC; so Chiang Kai-Shek took the Island "Formosa" ROC.

Giant and Merida, Examples, Made bikes for export First under contract names then they started setting up distributorships to add their own name ..

Diamondback is the bike sponsor for Optum Kelly Benefits

well hate to say it, but by the looks of that bike I'm talking about the Serios AF by diamondback they're doing it right!! I know that Ray Ban Sunglasses are now made in china and Italy???

Diamondback has never been a company -- just a brand name owned by an importer who slaps the name on decals. When Diamondback bikes first came to market in the '70s, they were BMX bikes imported by the same company that sold Centurion-branded road bikes. A few sales later and the brand now belongs to Accell, a Dutch company who also produces Raleigh and Redline bicycles for the U.S. market. But anyway, yes, the Diamondback name has been put on some decent bikes recently. The Podium series road bikes aren't bad, for example -- especially for bikes being sold through 'big box' stores.

I have a Diamondback Steilacoom cyclocross bike and its frame made by Kinesis. There's even a decal on the frame that says so. Kinesis is a Taiwanese company, founded by former Giant employees, but they have a factory in Guangzhou, China. According to Wikipedia, Kinesis builds frames for the following brands (and possibly more): Diamondback, Raleigh, Felt, GT, Schwinn, Jamis, K2, Trek, Kross, Kona, and BikesDirect.

Luxottica, an Italian company, has a near-monopoly on eyeglasses worldwide, commanding something like 80% of the market. They've been gobbling up or squeezing out competitors for years, including their acquisition of Ray-Ban in the '90s. Oakley held out for quite a while, but they got bought out by Luxottica a few years ago.