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ColorChange 01-07-09 08:26 AM

More Crashes?
 
OK, This will only be about my 10'th crash this winter. Recursive should be proud. This one was enough fun I took a picture.

Fresh snow hiding glare ice, at night, makes for interesting riding ... even with Nokians.

Hope you enjoy, and I fell twice on that ride. Chewed up my shin and a little banged but the collarbones are fine. :D

http://www.pbase.com/image/107898950/original.jpg

aham23 01-07-09 08:49 AM

did you land on the good shoulder or bad shoulder?

the pic is cool. later.

John Wilke 01-07-09 08:54 AM

Dude ...

http://www.icebike.org/images/BriansStuds.jpg

http://www.icebike.org/Equipment/tires.htm

ColorChange 01-07-09 08:54 AM

Good one this time, second fall bad one.

John, where do I get a set? :)

Took the car today. :(

CastIron 01-07-09 09:01 AM

Here.

John Wilke 01-07-09 10:02 AM

I think those sturgeon spears were home brew. :p

Psimet2001 01-07-09 10:10 AM

CC - BH has a set of studded MTB tires in house right now if you're interested.

ColorChange 01-07-09 10:23 AM

Hey guys, this was with studded Nokians, the Hakepelitaa (or whatever) and of course now I wish I got the bigger ones.

Nettabird 01-07-09 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by John Wilke
I think those sturgeon spears were home brew. :P

They were, and the link you gave has instructions for making them towards the bottom.

I've been meaning to try that myself...one more on the long list of "Things I Want to Do with Bikes"

sekaijin 01-07-09 10:46 AM

There but for the grace of my Kenda Klondikes go I. I could have taken that photo about four times last year. This year I'm more practiced/careful and on a better bike with better tires, so nothing specatacular to report yet. I did have my second 'failure to unclip tip' of the winter yesterday. My winter shoes are stickier.

John Wilke 01-07-09 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by ColorChange (Post 8137986)
Hey guys, this was with studded Nokians, the Hakepelitaa (or whatever) and of course now I wish I got the bigger ones.

If you survive the winter after riding on all that ice, just think how S-M-O-O-T-H you're gonna be on the road in spring! ;)

ColorChange 01-07-09 01:21 PM

John, that's really funny cause that's exactly what i think about when I not sure of my footing ... pedal smooth. Unfortunately, the rest of the time my ice bike power grips do not hold my apres ski sneakers tightly enough to pull up as they are sized for my winter boots and it's a pain to resize, so I end up mashing and losing anything I might have gained. :(

John Wilke 01-07-09 01:46 PM

Any one of those cycle-crossers (criss-crossers? cross-dressers?? :eek: ) on here could help 'ya ... they LIVE and DIE for that stuff!

Psimet2001 01-07-09 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by ColorChange (Post 8139042)
John, that's really funny cause that's exactly what i think about when I not sure of my footing ... pedal smooth. Unfortunately, the rest of the time my ice bike power grips do not hold my apres ski sneakers tightly enough to pull up as they are sized for my winter boots and it's a pain to resize, so I end up mashing and losing anything I might have gained. :(

Just HTFU and race cyclocross next year. You're doing it now anyway. Same low speed wrecks because of crappy footing. Just this way you get to taunt and sometimes get awards....or so I've heard.

Besides....It's only a 1/2 hr.

MJH2 01-07-09 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Psimet2001 (Post 8139272)
Just HTFU and race cyclocross next year. You're doing it now anyway. Same low speed wrecks because of crappy footing. Just this way you get to taunt and sometimes get awards....or so I've heard.

Besides....It's only a 1/2 hr.

He can't man! He's told me several times how dangerous mass-start races are. I mean, if he tried more of them he might fall... or trash a frame... or break a collarbone. You know, all those things he DOESN'T do by avoiding the races. :lol:

MJH2 01-07-09 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by ColorChange (Post 8137986)
Hey guys, this was with studded Nokians, the Hakepelitaa (or whatever) and of course now I wish I got the bigger ones.

Ara's got those at the shop. They're great tires, but the studs are fairly short and blunt. I could see why they'd be great on ice, but not necessarily snow-covered ice. Seems that once the snow was, maybe, half an inch thick, the studs probably wouldn't even be getting down to grip the ice. Cool tires, though.

ColorChange 01-07-09 03:04 PM

Guys, I have a torn meniscus in my right knee and can't run. I'm not afraid of falling (obviously), I just can't run!

MJH2, yea, you trade off much lower drag but fewer bigger studs. Mine are great for commuting in so so weather, not ideal for glare ice. They are fine for lakes and smooth ice, the problem is crowned ice or ice ruts where your tire wants to slide. There aren't enough studs far enough out on the tire to grab well and ... then ... boom goes the dynamite.

Psimet2001 01-07-09 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by ColorChange (Post 8139714)
Guys, I have a torn meniscus in my right knee and can't run. I'm not afraid of falling (obviously), I just can't run!

MJH2, yea, you trade off much lower drag but fewer bigger studs. Mine are great for commuting in so so weather, not ideal for glare ice. They are fine for lakes and smooth ice, the problem is crowned ice or ice ruts where your tire wants to slide. There aren't enough studs far enough out on the tire to grab well and ... then ... boom goes the dynamite.

I think you're greatly overestimating the amount of "running" there is in cyclocross. I'd say the sections of running are 10-20 seconds at most at a time. Totally rough estimate, but probably pretty accurate. You might do 2 minutes of running at most for a long race...in the 4's fields.

cyclpsycho 01-07-09 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by ColorChange (Post 8137174)
OK, This will only be about my 10'th crash this winter.

Nice pic!

Perhaps if you had learned some bike handling skills mountain biking with me this fall, you wouldn't have! :D

Kimbercop 01-08-09 07:44 PM

Ive scene homicide scene photos that weren't as nicley done. Kudos to you. Glad to hear you're fine too.

ColorChange 01-08-09 08:31 PM

Psi, if I run like a girl (slowly with little leg thrust or push), I can run, but I can't try to go fast at all or it hurts. I tried tennis for about 3 hours over the summer and it hurt and you could see the power drop off on my right leg afterward. I'm trying to lay off it till spring and then I'll gingerly try running again.

LOL Kimber.

You would have run me over and kept going psycho.

cyclpsycho 01-08-09 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by ColorChange (Post 8148312)
You would have run me over and kept going psycho.

That hurts. You portray me as some mean person. I would have stayed there by your side. Nurturing your developing skills.

And of course . . . laughing my arse off at you hitting that tree. So, I guess your right :D

Kimbercop 01-09-09 08:44 PM

I took a spill while on duty today while walking downhill on an icy sidewalk. Tried to get up but slipped again right away and had to crawl on hands and knees to the grass to get firm footing. I looked back at the snow where I slipped and it looked similar to your post, except a lot bigger, since I actually skidded downhill a little. I keep checking youtube for keywords "Fat" "Cop" "Falls" but so far I seem to have dodged a bullet, apparently nobody nearby had the ever present video camera rolling.

recursive 01-09-09 08:50 PM

I am proud. I haven't fallen yet this winter! Except that one time.

aham23 01-09-09 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by cyclpsycho (Post 8148392)
That hurts. You portray me as some mean person. I would have stayed there by your side. Nurturing your developing skills.

And of course . . . laughing my arse off at you hitting that tree. So, I guess your right :D

just like the lady on the tri bars at the DD did for you when she rolled past you in the areo position going up the short but steepest climb of the day? oh wait, i was a bit behind that action so i could have my aliens confused. :D later.


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