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Old 06-15-10 | 06:07 AM
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I think I'm going to do the Road America TOAD race on Monday. Can't resist racing on Road America on my bicycle after doing it in my Porsche. I was under 2:30 in my turbo, https://vimeo.com/455413. Wonder how the Cervelo will do? Somehow I don't think I'll be worried about the kink this time. lol

Anyone else going?

https://www.tourofamericasdairyland.c...art-events.php
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Old 06-15-10 | 08:57 AM
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Anyone else going?

35+ 4/5.

I noticed a lot of Porsche's in town for Tour of Elkhart Lake... all with Ill. plates.
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Old 06-15-10 | 11:48 AM
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Memorial Day at RA is a huge time for Porsche club.

Haven't decided what I'll race, 4/5's or masters 35+. Probably 4/5's.
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Old 06-15-10 | 03:53 PM
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I'll be in the Cat 3 race at Road America.

I'll probably also be racing Wednesday. Not sure yet as the schedule keeps changing.
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Old 06-16-10 | 05:54 AM
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I'm racing Road America and the Greenbush Road Race which is Thursday.
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Old 06-16-10 | 06:21 AM
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Cool Smokin. Maybe I'll do that one too.
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Was talking with people today. ToAD registration way up. (looked real slow early on). Bahati Foundation should be riding ToAD as well as Superweek.

Bong and a Half TT this morning had a real good turn out. The Iowa State Track Champs at Kenosha Velodrome was sparsely attended, but everybody was having a good time, while the first annual Burlington Classic Criterium was really sparsely attended which is a shame because RDS Productions did a great job of putting that one together. Full report later at Peloton Star.
Yep. Rahsaan is arriving today. He and four Bahati Foundation riders are staying with one of my teammates! They will be here until next Wednesday from what I've been told.

From the frantic phone calls and emails I've been getting about host housing, sounds like a lot of teams are popping in last minute. Pro Women's field is going to be big, full teams from Bianchi, Team Card, Treads.com, etc.

This is going to be great for the series!
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Awesome info.

Hmmm. I wonder if Bahati is going back to Cal. for the Manhattan Beach race on the 27th? Good to know his schedule though.
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For those racing at Road America - Tom Held is reporting that the steepest pitch on the course is 28% https://www.jsonline.com/blogs/lifestyle/96477264.html

I'm unable to verify that anywhere, but I don't doubt that the steepest pitch is close to that.

Just say'n.
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Old 06-16-10 | 06:28 PM
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Greetings from Shorewood, site of tomorrow's Stage 1 of ToAD. WiFi test is successful!

Next up, Thiensville WiFi test. Home of Friday's race.
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Old 06-16-10 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by John Wilke
For those racing at Road America - Tom Held is reporting that the steepest pitch on the course is 28% https://www.jsonline.com/blogs/lifestyle/96477264.html

I'm unable to verify that anywhere, but I don't doubt that the steepest pitch is close to that.

Just say'n.
That seems pretty steep. If it's really that bad anywhere, it's on the sharp climb between 5 and 6.
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Old 06-16-10 | 09:20 PM
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Hey colorchange, look who's famous on Chicagobikeracing.com.

I'm not sure if this is good or bad. I mean, it's a good video of the course... but somebody really got out of it in the kink!

Just kidding, of course.!
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There was a serious wall at the tour of Hermann. About 0.2 mi. 2nd half was 25% or more. On the steepest part I hit a low of 3.8 mph at 39 rpm (after 30 hard miles). And there were plenty other riders going slower.

There's a brutal local climb I do here, 0.5 mi and the last hundred yards is 20+%. I hit low 50s rpm at about 5 - 5.5 mph - and I'm an ok climber. Hard to believe that Road America has something steeper. No indication of it on the elevation chart.

If there is a 28% then some riders will be falling sidewards. I saw one guy do so at Spring Prairie and he took out the race favorite.

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There was a serious wall at the tour of Hermann. About 0.2 mi. 2nd half was 25% or more. On the steepest part I hit a low of 3.8 mph at 39 rpm (after 30 hard miles). And there were plenty other riders going slower.

There's a brutal local climb I do here, 0.5 mi and the last hundred yards is 20+%. I hit low 50s rpm at about 5 - 5.5 mph - and I'm an ok climber. Hard to believe that Road America has something steeper. No indication of it on the elevation chart.

If there is a 28% then some riders will be falling sidewards. I saw one guy do so at Spring Prairie and he took out the race favorite.
I've probably been to Road America 50-60 times, and I agree with this right here. There are some climbs that won't be fun (like, from what they call turn 12 up past s/f) but nothing that looks that incredibly steep. The worst hill there is actually next to the track between what they call turns 5 and 6. It's a popular hill for spectators, but a horrible thing to have to march up (especially if you're carrying brats).
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Old 06-17-10 | 06:29 AM
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Hey colorchange, look who's famous on Chicagobikeracing.com.

I'm not sure if this is good or bad. I mean, it's a good video of the course... but somebody really got out of it in the kink!

Just kidding, of course.!
Only a fellow racer would know how bad I pussed it through there ... lol. Guilty!


There are three notable climbs, after turn 5, after Canada corner, and going up the start finish. None are really steep but will allow pack separation if someone drills it, and they will. Can't believe any are anywhere near 26%?

https://www.corvetteracing.com/tracks...a_tracks.shtml
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See you tomorrow in the 3s. Whoever's there.
ME!

= = =

Something to ponder over lunch:

Rule 1.

To determine whether to use whoever or whomever, here is the rule:
him + he = whoever
him + him = whomever
Examples:

Give it to whoever/whomever asks for it first.

Give it to him. He asks for it first.

Therefore, Give it to whoever asks for it first.
We will hire whoever/whomever you recommend.
We will hire him. You recommend him.
him + him = whomever
We will hire whoever/whomever is most qualified.
We will hire him. He is most qualified.
him + he = whoever

Rule 2. When the entire whoever/whomever clause is the subject of the verb that follows the clause, look inside the clause to determine whether to use whoever or whomever.
Examples:

Whoever is elected will serve a four-year term.

Whoever is elected is the subject of will serve.

Whoever is the subject of is.

Whomever you elect will serve a four-year term.

Whomever you elect is the subject of will serve.

Whomever is the object of you elect.
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Old 06-17-10 | 12:48 PM
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Only a fellow racer would know how bad I pussed it through there ... lol. Guilty!


There are three notable climbs, after turn 5, after Canada corner, and going up the start finish. None are really steep but will allow pack separation if someone drills it, and they will. Can't believe any are anywhere near 26%?

https://www.corvetteracing.com/tracks...a_tracks.shtml
A bunch of years ago (possibly late 80's) there was a tv interview with one of the drivers right before a Trans-Am race there. I don't remember who it was, maybe Scott Pruett or Willy T. Ribbs (they look similar), kept yammering on and on about how the kink proves who the men are because it's "flat out". Then, every time they showed the in-car from that guy's car, he was lifting like mad through there.

Except for, maybe, an under-powered, open wheeled car with a decent amount of downforce, I don't think anybody goes through there flat-out. Not on every lap, anyway. Seems like a good way to die.
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Old 06-17-10 | 02:05 PM
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Speaking of Superweek, I forgot to update.

Big vote on the Geneva stage is this Monday. The meeting last Monday was long. Most folks were very supportive except for a few of the 3rd street retailers.

For as much crap as we (me) have blown the series, both the Garrisons and Otto were there. It's clear they've been busting their tails on this thing, and I've got a whole new respect for trying to put on such a huge ordeal.
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Old 06-17-10 | 03:26 PM
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WiFi check.

Speaking of M. Garison ... he's here walking around with his clipboard.
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Old 06-17-10 | 05:20 PM
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ME!

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Something to ponder over lunch:

Rule 1.

To determine whether to use whoever or whomever, here is the rule:
him + he = whoever
him + him = whomever
Examples:

Give it to whoever/whomever asks for it first.

Give it to him. He asks for it first.

Therefore, Give it to whoever asks for it first.
We will hire whoever/whomever you recommend.
We will hire him. You recommend him.
him + him = whomever
We will hire whoever/whomever is most qualified.
We will hire him. He is most qualified.
him + he = whoever

Rule 2. When the entire whoever/whomever clause is the subject of the verb that follows the clause, look inside the clause to determine whether to use whoever or whomever.
Examples:

Whoever is elected will serve a four-year term.

Whoever is elected is the subject of will serve.

Whoever is the subject of is.

Whomever you elect will serve a four-year term.

Whomever you elect is the subject of will serve.

Whomever is the object of you elect.
Who/Whom is archaic. Should have been eliminated from American English long ago. Had enough of that Direct/Indirect Object nominative/accusative/dative stuff when I learned German.
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Old 06-17-10 | 07:30 PM
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I'm out guys. Broken rib. I seriously hope this isn't more than a couple weeks.
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Old 06-18-10 | 06:38 AM
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Tape 'er up and pin on a number. Let pain be your guide. (assuming you don't have a chest tube hanging out of 'ya or sump'tin )

Sorry to hear that news!
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Wilke, what do we have to do to get you into a twitter account? I'm dying for mid-day updates!
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Old 06-18-10 | 10:44 PM
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Wilke, what do we have to do to get you into a twitter account? I'm dying for mid-day updates!
I have to agree with this one. Though Ebert is pretty good at updating the VZW U25 team's twitter account during races.
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