2010 ToAD \ Superweek
#51
I think I'm going to do the Road America TOAD race on Monday. Can't resist racing on Road America on my bicycle after doing it in my Porsche. I was under 2:30 in my turbo, https://vimeo.com/455413. Wonder how the Cervelo will do? Somehow I don't think I'll be worried about the kink this time. lol
Anyone else going?
https://www.tourofamericasdairyland.c...art-events.php
Anyone else going?
https://www.tourofamericasdairyland.c...art-events.php
#57
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Was talking with people today. ToAD registration way up. (looked real slow early on). Bahati Foundation should be riding ToAD as well as Superweek.
Bong and a Half TT this morning had a real good turn out. The Iowa State Track Champs at Kenosha Velodrome was sparsely attended, but everybody was having a good time, while the first annual Burlington Classic Criterium was really sparsely attended which is a shame because RDS Productions did a great job of putting that one together. Full report later at Peloton Star.
Bong and a Half TT this morning had a real good turn out. The Iowa State Track Champs at Kenosha Velodrome was sparsely attended, but everybody was having a good time, while the first annual Burlington Classic Criterium was really sparsely attended which is a shame because RDS Productions did a great job of putting that one together. Full report later at Peloton Star.

From the frantic phone calls and emails I've been getting about host housing, sounds like a lot of teams are popping in last minute. Pro Women's field is going to be big, full teams from Bianchi, Team Card, Treads.com, etc.
This is going to be great for the series!
#59
For those racing at Road America - Tom Held is reporting that the steepest pitch on the course is 28% https://www.jsonline.com/blogs/lifestyle/96477264.html
I'm unable to verify that anywhere, but I don't doubt that the steepest pitch is close to that.
Just say'n.
I'm unable to verify that anywhere, but I don't doubt that the steepest pitch is close to that.
Just say'n.
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For those racing at Road America - Tom Held is reporting that the steepest pitch on the course is 28% https://www.jsonline.com/blogs/lifestyle/96477264.html
I'm unable to verify that anywhere, but I don't doubt that the steepest pitch is close to that.
Just say'n.
I'm unable to verify that anywhere, but I don't doubt that the steepest pitch is close to that.
Just say'n.

#63
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There was a serious wall at the tour of Hermann. About 0.2 mi. 2nd half was 25% or more. On the steepest part I hit a low of 3.8 mph at 39 rpm (after 30 hard miles). And there were plenty other riders going slower.
There's a brutal local climb I do here, 0.5 mi and the last hundred yards is 20+%. I hit low 50s rpm at about 5 - 5.5 mph - and I'm an ok climber. Hard to believe that Road America has something steeper. No indication of it on the elevation chart.
If there is a 28% then some riders will be falling sidewards. I saw one guy do so at Spring Prairie and he took out the race favorite.
There's a brutal local climb I do here, 0.5 mi and the last hundred yards is 20+%. I hit low 50s rpm at about 5 - 5.5 mph - and I'm an ok climber. Hard to believe that Road America has something steeper. No indication of it on the elevation chart.
If there is a 28% then some riders will be falling sidewards. I saw one guy do so at Spring Prairie and he took out the race favorite.
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There was a serious wall at the tour of Hermann. About 0.2 mi. 2nd half was 25% or more. On the steepest part I hit a low of 3.8 mph at 39 rpm (after 30 hard miles). And there were plenty other riders going slower.
There's a brutal local climb I do here, 0.5 mi and the last hundred yards is 20+%. I hit low 50s rpm at about 5 - 5.5 mph - and I'm an ok climber. Hard to believe that Road America has something steeper. No indication of it on the elevation chart.
If there is a 28% then some riders will be falling sidewards. I saw one guy do so at Spring Prairie and he took out the race favorite.
There's a brutal local climb I do here, 0.5 mi and the last hundred yards is 20+%. I hit low 50s rpm at about 5 - 5.5 mph - and I'm an ok climber. Hard to believe that Road America has something steeper. No indication of it on the elevation chart.
If there is a 28% then some riders will be falling sidewards. I saw one guy do so at Spring Prairie and he took out the race favorite.
#65
There are three notable climbs, after turn 5, after Canada corner, and going up the start finish. None are really steep but will allow pack separation if someone drills it, and they will. Can't believe any are anywhere near 26%?
https://www.corvetteracing.com/tracks...a_tracks.shtml
#67
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We will hire whoever/whomever you recommend.
We will hire him. You recommend him.
him + him = whomever
We will hire whoever/whomever is most qualified.
We will hire him. He is most qualified.
him + he = whoever
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Examples:
Whoever is elected will serve a four-year term.
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Whoever is the subject of is.
Whomever you elect will serve a four-year term.
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Whomever is the object of you elect.

= = =
Something to ponder over lunch:
Rule 1.
To determine whether to use whoever or whomever, here is the rule:
him + he = whoever
him + him = whomever
Examples:
Give it to whoever/whomever asks for it first.
Give it to him. He asks for it first.
Therefore, Give it to whoever asks for it first.
We will hire whoever/whomever you recommend.
We will hire him. You recommend him.
him + him = whomever
We will hire whoever/whomever is most qualified.
We will hire him. He is most qualified.
him + he = whoever
Rule 2. When the entire whoever/whomever clause is the subject of the verb that follows the clause, look inside the clause to determine whether to use whoever or whomever.
Examples:
Whoever is elected will serve a four-year term.
Whoever is elected is the subject of will serve.
Whoever is the subject of is.
Whomever you elect will serve a four-year term.
Whomever you elect is the subject of will serve.
Whomever is the object of you elect.
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Only a fellow racer would know how bad I pussed it through there ... lol. Guilty!
There are three notable climbs, after turn 5, after Canada corner, and going up the start finish. None are really steep but will allow pack separation if someone drills it, and they will. Can't believe any are anywhere near 26%?
https://www.corvetteracing.com/tracks...a_tracks.shtml
There are three notable climbs, after turn 5, after Canada corner, and going up the start finish. None are really steep but will allow pack separation if someone drills it, and they will. Can't believe any are anywhere near 26%?
https://www.corvetteracing.com/tracks...a_tracks.shtml
Except for, maybe, an under-powered, open wheeled car with a decent amount of downforce, I don't think anybody goes through there flat-out. Not on every lap, anyway. Seems like a good way to die.
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Speaking of Superweek, I forgot to update.
Big vote on the Geneva stage is this Monday. The meeting last Monday was long. Most folks were very supportive except for a few of the 3rd street retailers.
For as much crap as we (me) have blown the series, both the Garrisons and Otto were there. It's clear they've been busting their tails on this thing, and I've got a whole new respect for trying to put on such a huge ordeal.
Big vote on the Geneva stage is this Monday. The meeting last Monday was long. Most folks were very supportive except for a few of the 3rd street retailers.
For as much crap as we (me) have blown the series, both the Garrisons and Otto were there. It's clear they've been busting their tails on this thing, and I've got a whole new respect for trying to put on such a huge ordeal.
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ME! 
= = =
Something to ponder over lunch:
Rule 1.
To determine whether to use whoever or whomever, here is the rule:
him + he = whoever
him + him = whomever
Examples:
Give it to whoever/whomever asks for it first.
Give it to him. He asks for it first.
Therefore, Give it to whoever asks for it first.
We will hire whoever/whomever you recommend.
We will hire him. You recommend him.
him + him = whomever
We will hire whoever/whomever is most qualified.
We will hire him. He is most qualified.
him + he = whoever
Rule 2. When the entire whoever/whomever clause is the subject of the verb that follows the clause, look inside the clause to determine whether to use whoever or whomever.
Examples:
Whoever is elected will serve a four-year term.
Whoever is elected is the subject of will serve.
Whoever is the subject of is.
Whomever you elect will serve a four-year term.
Whomever you elect is the subject of will serve.
Whomever is the object of you elect.

= = =
Something to ponder over lunch:
Rule 1.
To determine whether to use whoever or whomever, here is the rule:
him + he = whoever
him + him = whomever
Examples:
Give it to whoever/whomever asks for it first.
Give it to him. He asks for it first.
Therefore, Give it to whoever asks for it first.
We will hire whoever/whomever you recommend.
We will hire him. You recommend him.
him + him = whomever
We will hire whoever/whomever is most qualified.
We will hire him. He is most qualified.
him + he = whoever
Rule 2. When the entire whoever/whomever clause is the subject of the verb that follows the clause, look inside the clause to determine whether to use whoever or whomever.
Examples:
Whoever is elected will serve a four-year term.
Whoever is elected is the subject of will serve.
Whoever is the subject of is.
Whomever you elect will serve a four-year term.
Whomever you elect is the subject of will serve.
Whomever is the object of you elect.
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Broken rib. I seriously hope this isn't more than a couple weeks.