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#27
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Bikes: (2) 2004 Trek 1500, Team Colors:2004 Cannondale Ironman w/ Renn and Zipp: 2005 Kestrel Talon SL: 2001 GT Agressor: 2001 Schwinn Moab: 2001 Specialized S-Works M4 Festina Team Bike: 2002 Pinarello Prince: 1980 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8
That's awesome. I'd like to build a newer S-Works myself.
Tell us more about the 996 Turbo....
I'm a Porsche guy too.
Tell us more about the 996 Turbo....
I'm a Porsche guy too.
#28
Genetics have failed me
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Zorneding, Germany
Bikes: Norwid Aaland, Radon Slide 140, Elom 505 Titan, Dahon mju, Pedalforce CX1, Battaglin Power+, Old MTB and lots of spare parts
CC's 996 is sick. Humongous brakes, gobs of power and the growl of the devil out of the exhaust.
I've never driven in his 996, but my co-workers 997 Carrera is a dream to drive. I can only imagine how CC's 996 feels. I'm sure it corners like a sum*****.
I've never driven in his 996, but my co-workers 997 Carrera is a dream to drive. I can only imagine how CC's 996 feels. I'm sure it corners like a sum*****.
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#29
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Bikes: (2) 2004 Trek 1500, Team Colors:2004 Cannondale Ironman w/ Renn and Zipp: 2005 Kestrel Talon SL: 2001 GT Agressor: 2001 Schwinn Moab: 2001 Specialized S-Works M4 Festina Team Bike: 2002 Pinarello Prince: 1980 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8
Looks like PCCB calipers, but slotted rotors?
Yes, 911's are indeed known for going, stopping, and turning pretty well.
Yes, 911's are indeed known for going, stopping, and turning pretty well.
#32
Genetics have failed me
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Zorneding, Germany
Bikes: Norwid Aaland, Radon Slide 140, Elom 505 Titan, Dahon mju, Pedalforce CX1, Battaglin Power+, Old MTB and lots of spare parts
Fork me.. that is some serious hardware..
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#36
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Joined: Sep 2005
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From: Elgin, IL
Bikes: Cannondale H500, Pinarello Surprise
Wait somethings different.. I got it, It doesn't start with a "C", you defecting??
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and the road becomes my bride
I have stripped of all but pride
So in her I do confide
And she keeps me satisfied
Gives me all I need
and the road becomes my bride
I have stripped of all but pride
So in her I do confide
And she keeps me satisfied
Gives me all I need
#38
Kinber, they don't make them. Looked at Ridleys, too high standover for me since I plan to use it mostly as a road winter/rain/ice bike so I wanted a geometry more similar to road bikes. Specialized fit the bill.
Carolos, I'm teasing. Everyone knows it's always about the bike. At least that's what the salesman told me.
In reality, you can definitely by speed in TT's, some in road, and less in CX, but still some ... I'm hoping. I need all the advantages I can get.
Carolos, I'm teasing. Everyone knows it's always about the bike. At least that's what the salesman told me.
In reality, you can definitely by speed in TT's, some in road, and less in CX, but still some ... I'm hoping. I need all the advantages I can get.
#39
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From: Elgin, IL
Bikes: Lots. Chapter2, Van Dessel, Giant, Trek, etc Dealers for BMC, Chapter2
I thought your TT bike WAS your off-road bike already......
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#40
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What does make a difference in cross is tire pressure and choice of tires. This is worth more attention than any other equipment aspect - IMO.
#41
Agreed, I have the new Vittoria Cross Evo XG tires (32mm) in clinchers inbound for my training wheels. If my knee holds up to running, I'll order the same for racing in tubulars to go on my 404's. I know it's not ideal using the 404's for cross but I'm below 160 lbs now and the 404's should be able to handle it. Sound good?
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The Vittorias should be a good tire choice. Good allrounder for all courses.
I'm gluing up some tubulars for the first time this year. Standard box section rims to ultegra hubs.
404s - depends on whether you can afford to replace them or not. Cross can give a lot of abuse, but the chicrosscup courses are pretty mild.
Unless you're saving signifiicant weight I'd be reluctant to run carbon rims. Aero isn't a factor and it's moot whether they cut better through sand or not. Dunno about cornering. Glueing to carbon is said to be trickier as well. Just my thoughts.
I'll know more about tubulars in a couple of weeks when I've got the glue jobs done and tested.
I'm gluing up some tubulars for the first time this year. Standard box section rims to ultegra hubs.
404s - depends on whether you can afford to replace them or not. Cross can give a lot of abuse, but the chicrosscup courses are pretty mild.
Unless you're saving signifiicant weight I'd be reluctant to run carbon rims. Aero isn't a factor and it's moot whether they cut better through sand or not. Dunno about cornering. Glueing to carbon is said to be trickier as well. Just my thoughts.
I'll know more about tubulars in a couple of weeks when I've got the glue jobs done and tested.
#43
Genetics have failed me
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Zorneding, Germany
Bikes: Norwid Aaland, Radon Slide 140, Elom 505 Titan, Dahon mju, Pedalforce CX1, Battaglin Power+, Old MTB and lots of spare parts

Cross frigging hurts... way more than a crit race.
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#45
Genetics have failed me
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From: Zorneding, Germany
Bikes: Norwid Aaland, Radon Slide 140, Elom 505 Titan, Dahon mju, Pedalforce CX1, Battaglin Power+, Old MTB and lots of spare parts
Pretty much my whole cross bike is CF. The Pedal Force frame is pretty light to start out with. Only the wheels are really the heavy part.
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#48
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From: chicago burbs
Bikes: '17 giant propel, '07 fuji cross pro, '10 gary fisher x-caliber
i was curious about the pod on the chainstay, but I guess that's the polar power thingie. I read that it measures power by checking the vibration of the chain. Makes sense, since you enter in the length/weight of the chain it's a simple physics calculation. But does this assume a clean chain? what happens when the vibration is damped by mud or grit? or the weight of the chain+mud changes?
--edit- yes, I'm a nerd. I found one of their patents, 6,199,021. they're using Force = 4 * mass of suspended chain * length * frequency^2, where the measured aspect is frequency, and mass/length are assumed to be constant.
--edit- yes, I'm a nerd. I found one of their patents, 6,199,021. they're using Force = 4 * mass of suspended chain * length * frequency^2, where the measured aspect is frequency, and mass/length are assumed to be constant.
Last edited by black_box; 08-31-10 at 08:20 AM.
#49
I think the change in frequency due to dirt is negligible. When it's caked with mud ... we'll see. The unit works well for overall power and longer term calculations, it's not very good at transients like short term sprints.
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I'm digging the cable stop for the front brake. Where did you get it? I need one just like it. And, how easy are the TRP pads to adjust? Mine should be here early next week...
My new ride is about 80% done. With campy 10 speed, a shimano powertap and absolutely no carbon (except for a fork that I'm not exactly sold on), mine will be considerably more ghetto (and heavy) than yours.
Are those the Forte/Titan wheels?
My new ride is about 80% done. With campy 10 speed, a shimano powertap and absolutely no carbon (except for a fork that I'm not exactly sold on), mine will be considerably more ghetto (and heavy) than yours.
Are those the Forte/Titan wheels?









