...it's easy: start some threads. The ones arguing that the forum is going in the wrong direction can easily change the emphasis by simply starting the threads they want to see. Machka is the only one who actually does this regularly.

It's a valid point.

The corollary is that people should respect the intent and natural direction of threads and avoid hijacking them to suit their own agendas.

LCF can be a nice place for everybody, if people simply stay out of conversations that aren't of interest to them. Its a question of simple courtesy, more than anything else.

I do hope to see threads started by some of the newer members who have been posting good stuff in some of the other threads! The content of an internet forum is the responsibility of the users, so it's much better when more people are sharing the load. The subject matter of LCF is very broad, so most people should be able to think of an ingteresting topic for discussion.

Bumping this because it's a valid point.

We've been talking so much about what LCF should be about, that it's been about almost nothing else for a while now.

Let's stop talking about the forum, and participating in in more. Lurkers, whatever your preference in posts may be, the best way to see more interesting topics is to stop lurking and speak up.

If you're worried about about getting flamed, don't --- everybody gets flamed here once in a while, but I extend my asbestos promise not to flame anybody or any post until unless it's past the 20 response point. After that it becomes fair game (partly kidding, partly being realistic based on the normal patterns of BF threads).

Cooker, I've reported your dissident post to the admins. I hope they react to your subversion. Contributing to this forum in a positive manner is the best and only option.

Look guys, I have a revelation for you. Do not expect the forum staff to butt in and determine what is appropriate content for this forum, that's just not going to happen. We primarily look for violations of forum rules. Disagreements that threaten to escalate into violations are another area we focus on. Disruptive trolling and politics are two more hot spots. Feel free to review the Forum Rules again when you have a slow minute or two.

But as far as determining whats off-topic and what isn't . . . nyet! You guys are going to have to hash that stuff out for yourself.

What's the point of posting this here unless you're going to identify the "dissident post"? Keep this stuff between you and the mods otherwise - nobody can comment about your post because we have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

+1

Cooker, can you elaborate on what you mean by "different emphasis"? I just want to make sure I am hearing you correctly.

LCF as a broad area of interest, is not just about cycling, it can be about other modes of transit, the availability of cycling facilities, how cities and rural spaces are designed, how taxes are collected or spent, and the environment and so on. However this forum is part of a bicycling forum, so there is ongoing debate and dissent about how wide ranging the discussion here should be - maybe we should only discuss the bicycling aspects of LCF. and not the full scope of related topics.

Often the people who think these wider issues should not be discussed here nevertheless participate actively in these more 'political' threads while at the same time complaining that they dominate the subforum.

So instead of complaining that we are discussing the wrong topics, they should start the threads they think are more appropriate.

You must have a different heading statement that appears at the top of the Living Car Free list. Mine says NOTHING about " how cities and rural spaces are designed, how taxes are collected or spent, and the environment and so on". It reads "Living Car Free Do you live car free or car light? Do you prefer to use alternative transportation (bicycles, walking, other human-powered or public transportation) for everyday activities whenever possible? Discuss your lifestyle here."

I suppose if a "lifestyle" includes relentless speculation, conjuring and daydreaming, as well as personal preferences about P&R/Foo-ish topics, every interesting "idea" on any subject qualifies as a worthy BF-LCF topic.

Another chance for ILTB to twist the meaning to fit that which he finds so objectionable but is too limited in its actual presence to suit his appetite for spewing objections.

Give it a rest, y'all? You're running it into the ground and I wanna think about my late father and uncle who are inurned in the VA Cemetery that's too far away to bike to.


There is nothing to be gained from this thread.


EDIT: Please?


I don't want people to think I have any actual authority here, I'm just crotchety.

Okay, tell us about your lifestyle.

NOYDB! Today I passed up the free meals offered to Veterans by various local restaurants and had home cooked meals prepared by my wife. In betwen meals I rode about 12 miles on my bike.

Correct.
So think about them.

lol

I do all the time.

These subjects have all been discussed at one time or another in this forum. Unless you are more direct and candid about what your true intent is, your comments will be doomed to dissolution.

I can not remember another post, here, at Bike forums, that I would consider ulterior.
Why don't you step up to the plate and tell us what it is that you are really trying to say?

It's all right there. He was describing the broad scope of LCF as it relates to various things besides bicycles specifically.

It slays me that ILTB has 24,000+ posts here on BF and has started an average of 2 posts per year in almost 10 years. Then, he wanders into a thread ABOUT starting more threads and trashes the place - as is his normal mode of operation around here.

I don't block him because sometimes his posts are amusing, he knows his way around a keyboard and the English language, and even sometimes makes good and valid points. Actually, I don't have anyone blocked here. I come here for entertainment and ILTB can be darned entertaining. But you gotta wonder.....


From the South Park "World of Warcraft" episode.

I have no idea what you are getting at. My point is a very straightforward one. People often complain about the content of threads here. If they want different threads they should start them.

IOW, opinions different than yours = trashing the place.

Good and valid points = points that align with yours.

Normal mode for LCF echo chamber members that expect non critical "support" for whatever they post.

Sometimes...no, most of the time...when you disagree with someone the polite thing to do is to just leave the room and get on with your life and let them get on with theirs. There are plenty of names for people who wander the halls of life sticking their heads into every room LOOKING for someone to disagree with. Due to BF policy however, I can not mention them here.

You know what you do here. We know what you do here. Kinda like finding a hair in the soup -in every bowl.

Why not start your own thread now and then and maintain those instead of raining on everyone's parade? Any original ideas in that head or just criticism and judgement? After 24,000 posts and all but 20 sticking your head in our rooms, we all know you are smarter and better than us by now. Boy do we know.

I can't think of anybody who is more honest, forthright, and transparent than [MENTION=36292]cooker[/MENTION]. I think you have a serious comprehension problem, and honestly, you're just making a fool of yourself by attacking a very good guy.