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Old 07-08-17, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jon c.
Personally, I've never been able to adapt well to cold. I spent 4 years in Minnesota and hated it. But although I never liked the cold, I did adapt somewhat. I remember it feeling balmy when it rose above freezing after a month or more where it never rose much above 0 (F). But at this point in my life, I wouldn't live in such a climate again.
Persistent below freezing temperatures are not great either. Minnesota would be one of those places where the summers would be nice, or at least decent, but the winters would suck. As you well know.
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Originally Posted by tandempower
I have a hard time believing that you are truly happy with some of the mean spirited things you both post sometimes, but let's leave it and keep things on a happy and positive note.
In other words I think you're a liar but don't take it personally
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Originally Posted by Walter S
In other words I think you're a liar but don't take it personally
Making things personal creates drama. Sometimes people are just stating their impressions without meaning any hostility by it. If you can't take someone expressing a negative opinion about you in a non-hostile way without getting defensive, you have issues. There's a difference between having a negative opinion and hate. I don't hate Machka and Rowan. In fact, I admire them for their lifestyle and their ability to maintain a marriage. Just because certain things about them don't sit right with me doesn't mean I don't appreciate them on another level. Idk if they can say the same about me, but it doesn't matter because my happiness or love/hate for others is not conditional on their opinions about me.
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Originally Posted by Walter S
In other words I think you're a liar but don't take it personally


Yep. Gotta love being called a liar several times in a thread by someone who doesn't have the faintest clue. He doesn't even read our other threads and posts!


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If you're finding the summer heat too much, head up to the Columbia Icefields. This was us just a few weeks ago ... wandering around on the glacier in a bit of a snow squall.



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Originally Posted by tandempower
Non-sequitur. Machka was talking about threads I started getting flushed down the drain, I said it irritated me that certain people flame threads I start to get them banned, and she posted a thumbs up.

One of the reasons I avoid traveling is that I find visas and other forms of national border control draconian and ethnically discriminatory. Why should people be allowed to travel freely within national borders but not across them? It's a form of authoritarianism you submit to every time you show your passport, just like those South Africans who used to have to show their pass cars to pass into white areas.

Ok, why are we discussing this in the heat thread?
What YOU find "draconian and ethnically discriminatory" is neither here nor there, why are YOU discussing your political hang-ups/idiosyncrasies on this thread or on LCF?
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
What YOU find "draconian and ethnically discriminatory" is neither here nor there, why are YOU discussing your political hang-ups/idiosyncrasies on this thread or on LCF?
This was in reference to Rowan's comment about overstaying visas. I don't share his respect for visa restrictions, and I gave my reasons in response to what he said. That's all. No need for you to attack me about it.

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Or head to the top of the mountains around Jasper ...



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Originally Posted by tandempower
You have taken something I posted in another thread and quoted me as saying it in this thread for some reason. I'm reporting it to the moderators.
YOU posted that in this thread.
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Originally Posted by tandempower
You have taken something I posted in another thread and quoted me as saying it in this thread for some reason. I'm reporting it to the moderators.
See post *73 - THIS Thread. Good Lord!
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Originally Posted by Machka
YOU posted that in this thread.
You're right. I was thinking of another thread in P&R. I posted it in response to what Rowan said about overstaying visas. Not a discussion for this thread, so let's stop talking about it. I don't understand why he posted anything about overstaying visas in the first place.
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Originally Posted by tandempower
You're right. I was thinking of another thread in P&R. I posted it in response to what Rowan said about overstaying visas. Not a discussion for this thread, so let's stop talking about it. I don't understand why he posted anything about overstaying visas in the first place.
You're the one who continued the conversation.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
See post *73 - THIS Thread. Good Lord!
Ok, I mistakenly thought it was from another thread. The fact remains that all your posts are hostile and inflammatory. There's no reason for you to put 'YOU' in all caps multiple times in posts except to provoke. I don't see why such posts are tolerated. You must have a protected status here somehow to get away with being just mean all the time.
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Originally Posted by tandempower
Ok, I mistakenly thought it was from another thread. The fact remains that all your posts are hostile and inflammatory. There's no reason for you to put 'YOU' in all caps multiple times in posts except to provoke. I don't see why such posts are tolerated. You must have a protected status here somehow to get away with being just mean all the time.
More insults?

I think you need to go for a long bicycle ride. That might help make you a happier person.

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Originally Posted by Machka
You're the one who continued the conversation.
Because I found it rude to take a shot at migrants who overstay visas out of the blue. I don't appreciate Rowan thinking he's superior to other people because he obeys discriminatory rules. It would be like someone boasting that they don't go into the wrong area without a pass during apartheid. Nothing to boast about. If you want to discuss it further, start a P&R thread and don't post any more replies about it here.
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Originally Posted by Machka
More insults?

I think you need to go for a long bicycle ride. That might help make you a happier person.

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I go for walks everyday when I'm not cycling. It's good to use different muscle groups and see the world at a different speed and frame rate. What would make me a happier person online, however, would be if people would put some effort into being kind instead of hostile. Kindness makes a big difference.
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Originally Posted by tandempower
Because I found it rude to take a shot at migrants who overstay visas out of the blue. I don't appreciate Rowan thinking he's superior to other people because he obeys discriminatory rules. It would be like someone boasting that they don't go into the wrong area without a pass during apartheid. Nothing to boast about. If you want to discuss it further, start a P&R thread and don't post any more replies about it here.
I don't think his comments had anything to do with you ... do they? Nor did his comments take a shot at anyone.

He was just saying that we are free to travel as we want, and offered a bit of an explanation why.

We've just spent a lovely month in Canada ... taking in some of the cooler, snowier areas here (as seen in the photos I just posted) and taking in some beautiful hot summer days. It was a really good month!

And now we're returning to a cooler region of the world where we won't have to worry about heat for another 4 or 5 months.



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I go for walks everyday when I'm not cycling. It's good to use different muscle groups and see the world at a different speed and frame rate. What would make me a happier person online, however, would be if people would put some effort into being kind instead of hostile. Kindness makes a big difference.
Each of us is responsible for our own happiness. Happiness comes from within ourselves.
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Originally Posted by Machka
I don't think his comments had anything to do with you ... do they? Nor did his comments take a shot at anyone.

He was just saying that we are free to travel as we want, and offered a bit of an explanation why.
They implicitly justify restricting travel to people who fail to obey visa requirements. I would feel a lot freeer to travel if such restrictions weren't lording over you based on your ascribed nationality. I felt very free to travel when I was younger because I thought things like borders and sovereignty were just formalities. When I found out that people were really serious about limiting rights of non-citizens, it put a bad taste in my mouth regarding travel.
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Originally Posted by tandempower
I go for walks everyday when I'm not cycling. It's good to use different muscle groups and see the world at a different speed and frame rate. What would make me a happier person online, however, would be if people would put some effort into being kind instead of hostile. Kindness makes a big difference.
It might also help if you weren't so damn sensitive about every little nuance of a person's personality. Give people a break for once. You go off the deep end predictably and write multiple paragraphs about little points that hardly matter and then go berserk if everybody doesn't fall in line and think exactly like you do which is frankly a little strange and often naive.
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Originally Posted by walter s
it might also help if you weren't so damn sensitive about every little nuance of a person's personality. Give people a break for once. You go off the deep end predictably and write multiple paragraphs about little points that hardly matter and then go berserk if everybody doesn't fall in line and think exactly like you do which is frankly a little strange and often naive.
+1

Or imagined nuance ... some of his assumptions about what we're thinking come right out of left field and take me by surprise because it wasn't even close to what I was thinking.
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Originally Posted by tandempower
They implicitly justify restricting travel to people who fail to obey visa requirements. I would feel a lot freeer to travel if such restrictions weren't lording over you based on your ascribed nationality. I felt very free to travel when I was younger because I thought things like borders and sovereignty were just formalities. When I found out that people were really serious about limiting rights of non-citizens, it put a bad taste in my mouth regarding travel.
I thought we weren't discussing this topic here.

What's the weather like where you are?
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Originally Posted by Walter S
It might also help if you weren't so damn sensitive about every little nuance of a person's personality. Give people a break for once. You go off the deep end predictably and write multiple paragraphs about little points that hardly matter and then go berserk if everybody doesn't fall in line and think exactly like you do which is frankly a little strange and often naive.
I'm not going berserk when people don't fall in line. I don't even think in terms of people falling in line with other people or not. I just read things and respond with my thoughts. I try to be kind and respectful, even when I am disagreeing or criticizing. You should try it (wait, did I just suggest you 'fall in line?' Oh well, maybe it would be good to in this case).
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Originally Posted by tandempower
I'm not going berserk when people don't fall in line. I don't even think in terms of people falling in line with other people or not. I just read things and respond with my thoughts. I try to be kind and respectful, even when I am disagreeing or criticizing. You should try it (wait, did I just suggest you 'fall in line?' Oh well, maybe it would be good to in this case).
I find Walter S to be polite and respectful. He's one of the calmest posters here!
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I find Walter S to be polite and respectful. He's one of the calmest posters here!
Now you're getting defensive about him too? Here's a tip on what causes drama. When someone makes a suggestion about what would be good, e.g. being polite and respectful, and you turn it into an accusation that others fail to do the thing suggested, e.g. defensive assert that someone else IS polite and respectful, it goes from being a discussion about what's good to being a discussion about whether people are good or not, and that causes drama.
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Originally Posted by tandempower
Now you're getting defensive about him too? Here's a tip on what causes drama. When someone makes a suggestion about what would be good, e.g. being polite and respectful, and you turn it into an accusation that others fail to do the thing suggested, e.g. defensive assert that someone else IS polite and respectful, it goes from being a discussion about what's good to being a discussion about whether people are good or not, and that causes drama.

Again ... I think it is time for you to get out in the sunshine in your part of the world and go for a ride. You're getting way too worked up about things. Go enjoy summer!!


And yes, I will defend good posters.
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