Drunk Biking
#26
This is just odd that drunk cycling is considered just as bad as drunk driving. But should there be some kind of penalty? Maybe a different limit or just a public drunkeness citation similar to if you were walking drunk? If I were biking so erratically that I might hurt myself or someone, I'd want a cop to stop me. On the other hand, I don't need 11 months in the hoosegow to sober up, a few hours would do for me, thank you.
I don't get the strip search thing for the french woman either- maybe I had to be there.
I don't get the strip search thing for the french woman either- maybe I had to be there.
I think most of us if given the choice would prefer ten drunk cyclists on the road rather than ten drunk car drivers. I would.
In LA you can get a CUI, (cycling under the influence) fine $250. The level of alcohol in your blood is unclear to me, it's not the same as driving a car...I don't believe that it's enforced often (to the best of my knowledge).
It's rather a conundrum for drinkers, isn't it? On one hand, there are bars all around us, parties with alcohol, all encouraging us not to drink alone at home. Does everyone always know when they have had too much to ride a bike? What if you are too far from home to walk anyway?
Should cabs have bike racks?
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Should cabs have bike racks?
If you drive or ride somewhere, get drunk, and need to get home you can just take a cab (or bus) and come back for your car/bike when you're sober.
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One thing alcohol does do is destroy the ability of your blood to carry oxygen...so your brain doesn't get all the O2 it needs, and neither do your legs. I found this wasn't such a problem in Tulsa, where it is possible to avoid going up hills to get home. But then I moved to Seattle, and rented an apartment on the top of a hill...so now I don't ride after drinking so much, because going up the hill is just too painful.
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hi, new here, just saw this thread, my 2 cents.
<background>i live in a mid sized college town that is notorious for handing out DUI's. i was car less for four years, and am currently very car lite since i can get anywhere here in about 10 minutes on a bike.
i also bar tend and feel i am a very competent bicyclist. i've ridden home drunk/wasted/buzzed a million times. i've never crashed, never been stopped by the cops. my commute to work is less than two miles and flat. traffic is not heavy at all by the time i leave work (drunk). these things contribute to my thoughts on drunk biking. dunno if i could do it if my ride was twice that or if in heavy traffic, etc. to me it's like muscle memory, hop on ride home. alcohol affects us all differently.
<background>i live in a mid sized college town that is notorious for handing out DUI's. i was car less for four years, and am currently very car lite since i can get anywhere here in about 10 minutes on a bike.
i also bar tend and feel i am a very competent bicyclist. i've ridden home drunk/wasted/buzzed a million times. i've never crashed, never been stopped by the cops. my commute to work is less than two miles and flat. traffic is not heavy at all by the time i leave work (drunk). these things contribute to my thoughts on drunk biking. dunno if i could do it if my ride was twice that or if in heavy traffic, etc. to me it's like muscle memory, hop on ride home. alcohol affects us all differently.
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Cycling after a few beers down here is fairly serious. You will get done as if you were driving a car. To boot, you are permitted no alcohol in your system whatsoever while driving.
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#38
I calculated the ft. lbs. of energy I generate on my bike when coming down a hill. It was equivalent to a .50 Browning Machine Gun bullet. Don't drink and pedal, boyos. Not only will you screw your chances of recovery if some idiot injures you, you can most certainly kill a person with your bike. Not to mention the fact that you can kill yourself or break your neck because your reflexes are impaired.
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I calculated the ft. lbs. of energy I generate on my bike when coming down a hill. It was equivalent to a .50 Browning Machine Gun bullet. Don't drink and pedal, boyos. Not only will you screw your chances of recovery if some idiot injures you, you can most certainly kill a person with your bike. Not to mention the fact that you can kill yourself or break your neck because your reflexes are impaired.
While it's true that there is a small chance that a cyclist could kill someone in a collision, it's also true that the cyclist might get struck by a falling jetliner right before impact, so LOGICALLY those improbably events will cancel each other out and its impossible for a cyclist to kill someone in a collision (because it would be the jetliners fault!).
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This is just odd that drunk cycling is considered just as bad as drunk driving. But should there be some kind of penalty? Maybe a different limit or just a public drunkeness citation similar to if you were walking drunk? If I were biking so erratically that I might hurt myself or someone, I'd want a cop to stop me. On the other hand, I don't need 11 months in the hoosegow to sober up, a few hours would do for me, thank you.
#41
The bullet is just by way of illustration. The point is that having a person fly into you going 15 or 20 MPH is most certainly dangerous. It may not be enough to kill a person all the time, but it certainly *can.* Esp. if they're young or small. Not to mention what it can do to the rider.
Don't drink a bunch then go zipping around on your bike. Agreed?
Don't drink a bunch then go zipping around on your bike. Agreed?
#42
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In Louisiana the Supreme Court ruled that you cannot get a DWI on a bike. Hooray!
Cosmoline, depends on what you mean by a bunch. Drunk, I'd have to walk since I couldn't stay upright. Tipsy, I'm riding extra defensively, scared that my slowed reactions will get me in trouble. Buzzed, I'm flying through traffic like a madman because I just feel so darn good!
Oh, and I've never heard of anyone killed or injured by being struck by a cyclist, drunk or otherwise. I agree there is a chance, but the circumstantial evidence says that it's a very remote one. *Ok, so spectators have gotten hit watching cycling races and I'm sure messengers have knocked some folks on their rumps, but the killing thing still holds right?*
Cosmoline, depends on what you mean by a bunch. Drunk, I'd have to walk since I couldn't stay upright. Tipsy, I'm riding extra defensively, scared that my slowed reactions will get me in trouble. Buzzed, I'm flying through traffic like a madman because I just feel so darn good!
Oh, and I've never heard of anyone killed or injured by being struck by a cyclist, drunk or otherwise. I agree there is a chance, but the circumstantial evidence says that it's a very remote one. *Ok, so spectators have gotten hit watching cycling races and I'm sure messengers have knocked some folks on their rumps, but the killing thing still holds right?*
Last edited by Enthusiast; 05-13-09 at 06:54 AM. Reason: came up with my own counter-example...
#43
I've never heard of anyone killed or injured by being struck by a cyclist, drunk or otherwise
As far as specific incidents, a few years back in Eugene a cyclist was killed in a nasty bike/bike accident.
Here's another reference:
Bicycles & Pedestrians
Bicycle vs. pedestrian accidents occur on this and other campuses. UC, Irvine lost a $4.5 million lawsuit when a student sued the school for negligence after suffering a disabling injury involving a bicycle. Cyclists need to be considerate of pedestrians, and must use caution on or around walkways.
Bicycle vs. pedestrian accidents occur on this and other campuses. UC, Irvine lost a $4.5 million lawsuit when a student sued the school for negligence after suffering a disabling injury involving a bicycle. Cyclists need to be considerate of pedestrians, and must use caution on or around walkways.
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There are quite a few documented cases of cyclists striking and killing pedestrians...maybe we should mandate helmets for peds?
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I got stopped last fall at a roadside sobriety checkpoint on my way home after being at a house party and local town fair. It was 3AM and the cops must have been bored because as I approached, they flagged me down with a flashlight. I stopped (and heard the beer bottles in my backpack clink together loudly) and they asked me where I was coming from and where I was going. I slurred one of my answers and they pounced on it. I told them it was because I was out of breath. Then I quickly changed the subject and started saying that they were positioning the check points better now because that night and the night before they were in position to be more hidden and able to nail people easier...unless the driver took this one street and this other turn and got onto the main road over at this other place past the check point. They looked at me astonished and said, "Really??" I said, "Yeah, that was the way I used to do it." Then then they all laughed and told me to "get out of here!!" I suspect there would have been a different outcome if I had been driving a car.
#49
hi, new here, just saw this thread, my 2 cents.
<background>i live in a mid sized college town that is notorious for handing out DUI's. i was car less for four years, and am currently very car lite since i can get anywhere here in about 10 minutes on a bike.
i also bar tend and feel i am a very competent bicyclist. i've ridden home drunk/wasted/buzzed a million times. i've never crashed, never been stopped by the cops. my commute to work is less than two miles and flat. traffic is not heavy at all by the time i leave work (drunk). these things contribute to my thoughts on drunk biking. dunno if i could do it if my ride was twice that or if in heavy traffic, etc. to me it's like muscle memory, hop on ride home. alcohol affects us all differently.
<background>i live in a mid sized college town that is notorious for handing out DUI's. i was car less for four years, and am currently very car lite since i can get anywhere here in about 10 minutes on a bike.
i also bar tend and feel i am a very competent bicyclist. i've ridden home drunk/wasted/buzzed a million times. i've never crashed, never been stopped by the cops. my commute to work is less than two miles and flat. traffic is not heavy at all by the time i leave work (drunk). these things contribute to my thoughts on drunk biking. dunno if i could do it if my ride was twice that or if in heavy traffic, etc. to me it's like muscle memory, hop on ride home. alcohol affects us all differently.
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I have been hurt a few times riding a bike drunk back in college. Bleed like a stuck pig too. I personally think the legal thing should be more of a drunk in public charge rather than a DUI, as you are not really endangering others as seriously as in a car, but that is just my opinion.







