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Old 01-29-10 | 12:03 PM
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A car requires space enough for 14 bicycles.



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Old 01-29-10 | 12:08 PM
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i get it:

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Old 01-29-10 | 01:52 PM
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I really like that idea. Somebody turned those old trailers into a gigantic useful sculpture. I see that several shipping containers were used to support some of those trailers. I would like to actually convert a forty foot shipping container into a house.

A long time ago I commented that I wouldn't want to live in an RV because they were too small. Then I saw just how cool a trailer could be when others posted links to the Tumbleweed Tiny House company site. The tiny Tumbleweed is still too small but converting a forty foot container into something similar with more accoutrements would make a great house for a single person or couple.
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Old 01-29-10 | 02:09 PM
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I really like that idea. Somebody turned those old trailers into a gigantic useful sculpture. I see that several shipping containers were used to support some of those trailers. I would like to actually convert a forty foot shipping container into a house.

A long time ago I commented that I wouldn't want to live in an RV because they were too small. Then I saw just how cool a trailer could be when others posted links to the Tumbleweed Tiny House company site. The tiny Tumbleweed is still too small but converting a forty foot container into something similar with more accoutrements would make a great house for a single person or couple.
an efficient heating and cooling system would suck, but it may make a fun "lake home"
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Old 01-29-10 | 03:34 PM
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Hmmm I guess I could buy 14 bikes instead of a car, I could use this as evidence for my girlfriend . Would cost less too!
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Old 01-29-10 | 04:14 PM
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Hmmm I guess I could buy 14 bikes instead of a car, I could use this as evidence for my girlfriend . Would cost less too!
i think if i were to buy 14 bikes i honestly wanted the price would quickly exceed that of a nice car...
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Old 01-29-10 | 06:24 PM
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Old 01-31-10 | 08:25 AM
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I think I could get 14 bikes I wanted for less then a nice new car. The cheapest BMW is the 128i Coupe, starting at just over $29,000. Start adding options and
the price sky rockets.
The, bikes I like are in the $1500-2500 range, so average $2000 = $28,000. Even if a few were $3000-$4000, the beaters would off set them by being super cheap.

I thinks it ridiculous, that city planners still allow as much on street parking, its just killing the space for people to enjoy the city. Unless people enjoy car fumes
as they walk around the city.



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Old 01-31-10 | 09:32 AM
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notice i used the term "nice car" not "overpriced 3 series with a smaller trunk and useless back seat" i was thinking more along the lines of a 4cyl ford fusion

(and im a bmw 1 series fan...)
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Old 01-31-10 | 11:54 AM
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Old 01-31-10 | 10:02 PM
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If people know how to parallel park it could be cut down to 10 bikes. But we have NO standards for getting a license, compared to some other countries.
At 16 years old I almost laughed out loud at the size of the parking spot they had me park in. I was in a old Subaru sedan, I kid you not, the space
the DMV had set up was enought space to park a full size, 4 door, long bed pick-up with a good 2-3 feet at EITHER end after parking.

I see why cars need to be made safer, the drivers can't/won't be made safer. What a joke.

At least 35% of all on-street downtown parking, in all big cities, should be removed. It would most certainly encourage folks to find other means of getting down town,
naturally boosting public, and leg power transportation. It also would serve to get more people out of their little bubbles and interact with their city and its other inhabitants.
Though folks from the suburbs are in no hurry to mingle with city folk.

I just realized I'm in a car-free forum, effectively preaching to the choir. Good times
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Old 01-31-10 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Totaled108
I think I could get 14 bikes I wanted for less then a nice new car. The cheapest BMW is the 128i Coupe, starting at just over $29,000. Start adding options and
the price sky rockets.
The, bikes I like are in the $1500-2500 range, so average $2000 = $28,000. Even if a few were $3000-$4000, the beaters would off set them by being super cheap.

I thinks it ridiculous, that city planners still allow as much on street parking, its just killing the space for people to enjoy the city. Unless people enjoy car fumes
as they walk around the city.




City planners work for politicians. Politicians are interested in getting elected. So who has the most votes and the biggest lobby?
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Old 02-01-10 | 10:14 AM
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City planners work for politicians. Politicians are interested in getting elected. So who has the most votes and the biggest lobby?

Auto and oil!!!! The best people to make life changing decisions, of course.
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Old 02-01-10 | 10:34 AM
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That's just typical architecture here in Arkansas.
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Old 02-02-10 | 12:50 PM
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Get ready for International (Park)ing Day in September. Feed tthe meter for the whole day, and convert the parking space into a mini-park!


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Old 02-03-10 | 01:10 AM
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Yes, 50% of the population needs to die. NO, its a cartoon, fake, not real, just for fun. Logic is lose on far too many folks. If the artist was a tight ass, he could have
drawn in 18 people in the left of the pic. But he figured most people would get the picture. I know you get it, but are trying to play the devil advocate. (I hope, for your sake)


Ford Fusions are over sized and ugly.
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Old 02-03-10 | 01:35 AM
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Does that mean we have to kill over 50% of the population to have this paradise? ... (not that I have a problem with that)
How about contraception as a means of bringing the population down? Or do you favour outlawing it? You're not alone if you do. According to this poll, only a bare majority of a certain major American political party oppose such a ban. God help us!
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Old 02-03-10 | 05:18 PM
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How about contraception as a means of bringing the population down? Or do you favour outlawing it? You're not alone if you do. According to this poll, only a bare majority of a certain major American political party oppose such a ban. God help us!
Even if the birth rate were drastically lowered today, it would take 30 to 50 years for the population to start declining. (Provided people already alive are not killed off.)

But I do think that drastically cutting back on parking spaces would reduce driving in less than 30 years.
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I wonder what it will eventually be like trying to find a parking space in a country like China?
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Old 02-08-10 | 12:32 PM
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Market Value Parking

A few months ago somebody posted some links to the smartest parking program I've ever heard about. The prices of parking at the meters changed depending on how valuable the parking spaces were considered. The prices ensured that there were always about 15% of the spaces available. The cities that try it like it.

As far as population goes, within one-hundred years the population of the Earth would be permanently sustainable if there were just a one child per family rule implemented.

Genetics is an unpredictable thing. Having different types of people with different genetics (and intelligence levels) all mixing together is what makes the human population so resistant to diseases. A homogeneous population would be more susceptible to diseases. One bad strain of flu could kill the entire population if we were all related.

Super geniuses didn't only come from super geniuses. Nobody knows which combination of genes will produce such people. Once everybody on the planet has a good job they won't need to produce eight children to help them in their old age.

ChrimsonEclipse you were probably joking about that "(you must be this smart to breed)" comment. It's a funny idea but it would not solve anything. There are smart people doing stupid things all the time.
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True Cost Of Roads

Who knows how much roads and transportation infrastructure actually cost?

If there were a true number that could be attached to it then there could be a fuel tax created to pay for all roads. Of course I would want them to add in a few percent more to support mass transit too.

If government could just sell the idea that the people who use the roads the most would pay the most then I think that could pass. The people who don't drive would pay their share of that tax in the slight increase in their food costs as they already do now.

The road fees and taxes that are now part of our income taxes and sales taxes could be removed from the budget. All of the money for the roads would come from fuel taxes. This would make fuel efficient cars more popular and it would keep some people from driving as much as they do now.

This idea could work in the same way that the parking meter solution has worked in some cities. Motorists pay for the value of the parking real estate at the meter.

I'm sure I would probably be surprised at the high number that would be attached to true road prices per car. Still, I'd like to know what it is. It would be interesting if that number could be listed in a cost per mile driven value. I would prefer just a flat fuel tax. That would make it easier for everybody.
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I support a birthing license. (you must be this smart to breed)
An internet posting license is another idea that would be useful, but probably will not happen. But a "parking license" that would cut down on hideous parking lots and ramps, as well as congestion on the roads, is likely to be in place in many areas within a few years.
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