Originally Posted by wolfchild

I doubt very much there are any car-free people on this forum who have ridden as much distance as you. Most people are car-free because of ideological beliefs... Exercising, eating healthy and keeping fit and taking responsibility for their well being is the last thing on their mind. They are more interested in the health of a melting iceberg or some glacier then the health of their bodies .

Originally Posted by Roody

What an odd remark, and rude. Are you feeling ok?

Also please stay on topic. This is not a thread for flame wars. If you want to be rude, please start a different thread. I will report attempted thread-jacks to the mods.

as a reminder, the topic is HILL CLIMBING and I expect it to be friendly and informative.

Originally Posted by Walter S

The last thing on their minds? Where'd you figure that out?

I used to be a road bike rider for many years, dedicated to high performance biking and racing with my buddies. But now I'm car-free and commute and shop by bicycle. I ride more miles than I ever did as a roadie. I'm just as dedicated to fitness and I'm in the best shape in my life at age 54. I ride 200+ miles per week and my weight is nearly ideal for doing my weekly routine for as little effort as possible.

I've always tended to push myself. So while some people may need to motivate themselves to try harder, I've found added speed by learning to not try as hard. For hills, what I can say is to practice, practice, so you know what different kinds of inclines and distances will feel like. For long hills get yourself dialed in with the right effort to make the crest of the hill with a consistent effort during the climb instead of using up all your energy and then riding jerky and out of breath before the top. For short hills you can often stand up on the pedals and/or just give the hill a non-sustainable but short effort that maintains your momentum as you go over it.

Accept the physical laws of the universe. If you're not maintaining a decent amount of energy in reserve, you need to slow down for the hill. No amount of wanting it to be easy to glide over it will change that. Accept that long hills are harder than short ones. Your legs might feel fine on a 500 yard 8% incline. So go ahead and give the first 500 yards a reasonable go but be prepared to shift up a gear (or two!) when the same incline extends 1/2 mile. So ideally you're not looking to maintain the same speed all the way up the hill as maintain a decent but reasonably efficient and pleasant effort.

I watch how I'm feeling each day and try to be sensitive to that. I won't maintain my best condition by going full bore every day. I need to back off and recuperate. So I try to quiet the voice that tells me I'm not going fast enough. It helps to note the difference in time. When I try really hard I can make my commute in about an hour and 15 minutes. When I'm taking it real easy and feel like I'm almost goofing off, I might slouch in at a hour and 25. I'm always surprised how little difference there is between pushing myself and just enjoying the ride.

Originally Posted by Machka

Roody ... I don't think wolfchild was flaming anyone. I just think he's unaware that people ride for health and fitness.

Originally Posted by bbeasley

I'm constantly trying to improve my cycling fitness. While I don't enjoy the training racers do, I'm always pushing to climb a hill faster or increase my average speed. I think this pic tells the story.

Before cycling and now

Originally Posted by wolfchild

They are more interested in the health of a melting iceberg or some glacier then the health of their bodies .

Originally Posted by wolfchild

Most people are car-free because of ideological beliefs...

Originally Posted by fat_bike_nut

One thing I've noticed that's helped me with hill-climbing that hasn't been mentioned so far is BREATHING. I find that I can maintain a good pace on a slightly harder than optimal gear going up hills when I can control my breathing rate. Also, I remember in another thread related to hill climbing that paying attention to your breathing rate helps you figure out when you need to shift to an easier gear during the middle of your climbs.

Originally Posted by t x

Definitely this. I've been riding a lot of hills recently on my fixed gear bike, including many that I thought were way out of my league running single speed. I've found the best thing to do is focus on steady breathing and not elevating my heart rate. If I feel my heart start working harder, I slow down. I actually tend to climb faster when maintaining an "all-day" pace like this than I do when I try go aggro and just muscle up a hill.

Originally Posted by gerv

I'm confused. If you slow down too much you'll eventually slow down and then fall down... at least that was my impression of fixed fear riding.