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Old 06-29-16, 06:45 PM
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You all realize the Tour starts Saturday?

There goes any morning productivity for three weeks.
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Tell them it was that or turning the thing into a hipster fixie.
Here's how a Vitus 979 was properly operated back when:
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Old 06-30-16, 01:04 AM
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You all realize the Tour starts Saturday?

There goes any morning productivity for three weeks.
And the new name for the Australian team is Orican-BikeExchange. Sort of taken the Edge off things a bit...
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Originally Posted by Racer Ex
Tuna tower.

Layers from bottom to top:

Sushi rice
Fresh king crab
Avocado
Sirracha sushi rice
Ahi tuna marinated in soy sauce and sesame oil with nori
Fresh king crab
Pickled daikon and carrots

Mrs. Ex very happy.
Ohh yeah! For years that was almost exactly our New Year's Eve dinner, expect we also threw in lobster, shiso leaf (secret ingredient), and (cheap) caviar on top. We called it Dragon Pile. It made us very popular party guests.

Then we had kids and let's just say the dollars per calorie ratio became uneconomical.
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Just found out yesterday that the dates of my Carmel trip for the first week of Feb 2017 conflict with a TT date for the SoCal TT series. I could keep the trip and cut it short by a day. Or I could cancel it and book something else for the 2nd week in Feb instead. I'm probably going to book the trip using a timeshare, so options are limited and include: Carmel, Napa or Windsor (near Santa Rosa), San Francisco, Solvang (central coast of California), Newport, San Diego, Scottsdale, Tuscon and Sedona. If we bail on timeshare options, we can always take the boat and do something like Catalina for mountain biking, or San Diego/Newport (but without a car migh have to brave traffic to get to good rides), or weather permitting (50% chance of this in Feb) Santa Barbara.

The least chances of rain would be Tuscon or Scottsdale. I imagine Scottdale would be somewhat treacherous for road biking.

What can people tell me about Tuscon and Scottsdale cycling? Both road and mountain. @robabeatle and @valygrl and anyone else?

How about mountain biking in some of the other locales? Any insight? (Not that I have a mtn bike yet but I'm thinking about it.)

Solvang is also kind of appealing because I could turn it into a mini tour- ride from my house to Santa Barbara, then Santa Barbara to Solvang. That would be fun to do.
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Tucson road biking is great. Don't know much about Scottsdale - i hear MTB is good, road is not so great. I think NorCal is too rainy in early February.
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I vote Tucson. I spent a week there in April and it was great. There are numerous folks who rent rooms in their house to cyclists, that's what I did and it was enjoyable. I was planning on Tucson in February anyway.
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Tucson road biking is great. Don't know much about Scottsdale - i hear MTB is good, road is not so great. I think NorCal is too rainy in early February.
NoCal, Central Coast and SoCal all statistically speaking have the same chance of rain. Ave in Feb is around 4-5 inches. Living in SoCal, I will say from experience that means that missing rides because of rain is still unlikely.

Tucson, Scottsdale and San Diego all have on average less than 2 inches of rain in Feb and a little warmer weather. So they are good cycling choices but Napa, San Francisco, Carmel, and even the central coast of California would probably be preferred vacation choices for us, with appeal outside of cycling.

However, I've been to Tucson once and I thought the saguaro cactuses were pretty cool. I wouldn't mind seeing them again. Mr. H is so easy that he's up for whatever...
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I vote Tucson. I spent a week there in April and it was great. There are numerous folks who rent rooms in their house to cyclists, that's what I did and it was enjoyable. I was planning on Tucson in February anyway.
Could you do the 2nd week, if I could arrange it?
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Can I come?

Tucson has some good riding. My buddies who lived in Scottsdale told me it's old bitter people scary riding.
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Ugh, you are planning a trip to Tucson now, the year where I'm finally like, i'm so over Tucson, i want to go to California.
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Ugh, you are planning a trip to Tucson now, the year where I'm finally like, i'm so over Tucson, i want to go to California.
When are you going to realistically go to California? Jan-Mar are probably too rainy for you and Apr-summer, you'll be racing.

You might as well go to Tucson again, what else are you going to do?!
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Never mind. We are back to Carmel, just got the reservation for the 2nd week in Feb.
@sarals, we are on.

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Well, humbug! California is just too far for me, we can compare notes here.
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March. but Carmel in Feb is not totally out of the question.

i'm going to go to Tucson again, but i'm not going to go for 2-5 weeks like the last few years. Just 1 week if my coach does her camp there again.
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March. but Carmel in Feb is not totally out of the question.

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So you're saying it's hit or miss?
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Never mind. We are back to Carmel, just got the reservation for the 2nd week in Feb.
@sarals, we are on.

Awesome! I'm definitely down with that. Maybe there will be a TT we can do while you're here?

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So you're saying it's hit or miss?
More that 0.13 inches of rain on any given day won't kill us!
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You all realize the Tour starts Saturday?

There goes any morning productivity for three weeks.
My DVR will be full!
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Never mind. We are back to Carmel, just got the reservation for the 2nd week in Feb.
@sarals, we are on.

Sorry, I just saw this now. I have been back in my hometown in PA, no interweb connection...I could make various arguments for Tucson, but I see that you have planned otherwise. I'm sure I will see you in the Ol' Pueblo at some point in the future.

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Never mind. We are back to Carmel, just got the reservation for the 2nd week in Feb.
@sarals, we are on.

HP, you're now familiar with my inability to commit 8 months in advance...lol...but, if others are invited, would you please start a separate thread and keep us abreast? I know you...so I know you will, lol, you planner you...I don't know why felt the need to write this...

Anyhoo some California riding in February sounds nice....
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HP, you're now familiar with my inability to commit 8 months in advance...lol...but, if others are invited, would you please start a separate thread and keep us abreast? I know you...so I know you will, lol, you planner you...I don't know why felt the need to write this...

Anyhoo some California riding in February sounds nice....
I have a great trip for you:

Fly into LAX on Wed, we'll put you up on the boat which is 15 min from the airport, provided you don't arrive in rush hour.

Thursday do Rogers's track session at Velo Sports Center with @Hermes. By then he will be living in SoCal again.

Thursday night, drive to Santa Barbara.

Fri I will put together a SAG ride for Gibraltar (tough climb) and then some noodling along the ridge road Camino Cielo, great views on one side of the pacific ocean and on the other of the inland mountains. You need SAG for this one because there's no water on most of the route. I can tell you all about my hallucinatory ride up there, out of water, dehydrated, and looking for the bus stop so I could bail on the ride. Its funnier if you've been there because the chances of a bus stop are zero-ish.

Fri night Santa Barbara and tasting rooms.

Sat-Sat Carmel. With the beautiful Carmel Valley route, the easy scenic Pebble Beach loop, maybe some riding along the PCH towards Big Sur. @sarals can take us out to her Fort Ord race course. And I'm sure there is good mountain biking. Plus more eating & tasting rooms. It will be awesome.

If it doesn't rain. And it could. Every day. In large volumes. I'll be fine if it does. But YMMV, if you're primarily there to ride...
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
I have a great trip for you:

Fly into LAX on Wed, we'll put you up on the boat which is 15 min from the airport, provided you don't arrive in rush hour.

Thursday do Rogers's track session at Velo Sports Center with @Hermes. By then he will be living in SoCal again.

Thursday night, drive to Santa Barbara.

Fri I will put together a SAG ride for Gibraltar (tough climb) and then some noodling along the ridge road Camino Cielo, great views on one side of the pacific ocean and on the other of the inland mountains. You need SAG for this one because there's no water on most of the route. I can tell you all about my hallucinatory ride up there, out of water, dehydrated, and looking for the bus stop so I could bail on the ride. Its funnier if you've been there because the chances of a bus stop are zero-ish.

Fri night Santa Barbara and tasting rooms.

Sat-Sat Carmel. With the beautiful Carmel Valley route, the easy scenic Pebble Beach loop, maybe some riding along the PCH towards Big Sur. @sarals can take us out to her Fort Ord race course. And I'm sure there is good mountain biking. Plus more eating & tasting rooms. It will be awesome.

If it doesn't rain. And it could. Every day. In large volumes. I'll be fine if it does. But YMMV, if you're primarily there to ride...
Combining sailboat, velodrome, Santa Barbara, wine, Carmel...you don't play fair! I've put it in my calendar...

Speaking of Santa Barbara and wine, this one time, about a half a century ago, I got lost in Fess Parker's house...
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