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#9501
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The Magic Bike at the top of Mt Pinos. Mt Pinos is the closest place I can get to with some altitude, the top is at 8200 ft, and the bottom is a 45 min drive from my house. It's not the longest or steepest climb, I think maybe 8 miles at 5%. But it's low traffic, a fun descent. So you can ride repeats of the hill to get however much climbing you want, or head over to Mt Able afterward for another 10 miles of climbing. In theory you can ride from one mountain to the other too, but the road between them is no fun- steep with zero shoulder and aggressive cars heading up to a little resort community at the base of Abel, people always in a huge rush to get to their cabin to relax.
#9502
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The Magic Bike at the top of Mt Pinos. Mt Pinos is the closest place I can get to with some altitude, the top is at 8200 ft, and the bottom is a 45 min drive from my house. It's not the longest or steepest climb, I think maybe 8 miles at 5%. But it's low traffic, a fun descent. So you can ride repeats of the hill to get however much climbing you want, or head over to Mt Able afterward for another 10 miles of climbing. In theory you can ride from one mountain to the other too, but the road between them is no fun- steep with zero shoulder and aggressive cars heading up to a little resort community at the base of Abel, people always in a huge rush to get to their cabin to relax.
I'm somewhat envious of the close proximity of the long hill. The only hill local to me coming close to 8 miles at 5% is 90 min away by car (and it's more 8 km at 5%). I'm also bummed by the fact that there's no place around here to really do TTs as roads are either narrow, wind exposed, or in bad condition. The wind just doesnt stop in NJ during this time of the year, and i'm almost contemplating driving 60 min to Ft Lee (in NJ) just so that i can get some decent miles on my TT bike...
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I've got a 2016 GF02 lined up as my rental bike for my Mallorca vacation. I have never ridden a BMC, so your love for Magic Bike gives me great hope that it will be a fun ride.
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@echappist, I am really lucky to live in a valley, I can ride right out my front door to an 8 mile climb (plus many other climbs of varying distance). The nice thing about Pinos is the altitude and the fact that it's a little cooler, it's a way to beat the heat in the summer- relatively speaking, you might be talking about 90F instead of 100F.
Also lucky I guess in that I have roads to ride TT efforts on. But realistically I mostly make that work by going out at 4:30am. I get my own lane on a six lane road that time of day. Whereas during normal hours, riding a bike on that very same road is completely non viable. But it's well lit with good pavement, so that part is great.
@valygrl, I hope you come home saying "those BMC GFs are really nice bikes" as opposed to "Hey HP sorry to break it to you but you could've bought a nicer bike".
Remind me again when Mallorca is?
Also lucky I guess in that I have roads to ride TT efforts on. But realistically I mostly make that work by going out at 4:30am. I get my own lane on a six lane road that time of day. Whereas during normal hours, riding a bike on that very same road is completely non viable. But it's well lit with good pavement, so that part is great.
@valygrl, I hope you come home saying "those BMC GFs are really nice bikes" as opposed to "Hey HP sorry to break it to you but you could've bought a nicer bike".
Remind me again when Mallorca is?
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Mallorca is very end of March.
I haven't gotten my work to bring me out to Carmel yet. Chances diminishing, not yet zero, but close.
I haven't gotten my work to bring me out to Carmel yet. Chances diminishing, not yet zero, but close.
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45 minutes at the low end of endurance pace with 4x60" fast pedal intervals this morning, just to keep the legs moving. Feeling pretty good, looking forward to the hard ride tomorrow.
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I am in Newport Beach for the weekend for a team training camp for my wife. Today, I drove sag for my wife and picked her up after 2 hour ride. They were riding 4 hours. Amazing weather today.
I did a coast ride after we got back. Tomorrow is a ride through Camp Pendleton.
I did a coast ride after we got back. Tomorrow is a ride through Camp Pendleton.
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Oof. Abbreviated version of the Rouge-Roubaix "recon" ride was only 90 miles. It was way closer to race pace than it should've been. TSS 421, IF .84 for 4:49 rolling time. I ended up doing 1:07 at threshold when the young punks decided to line it out. I'm as tired as a half a dozen mofos.
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1:30 at recovery pace this morning. The first 20 minutes or so were painful, then things smoothed out and I ended up feeling pretty good. No bike tomorrow, just some gym time.
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#9512
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I didn't say anything about my openers ride yesterday, did I? One word - ugh. On to other things....
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First TT is a month away. Guess I should ride my tt bike at some point. I've been riding it on the trainer.
Today it was really nice out and I got out with 3 teammates for a mellow social couple-three hours. I've been hitting the indoor trainer pretty hard and have tired legs, so this was really great. I guess I'm gonna have to force myself to take a rest break here at some point. I've pushed my CTL up pretty far, and held it up there. Will be interesting to see how that plays out for racing, after racing at a lower training load under my coach the last few years.
Today it was really nice out and I got out with 3 teammates for a mellow social couple-three hours. I've been hitting the indoor trainer pretty hard and have tired legs, so this was really great. I guess I'm gonna have to force myself to take a rest break here at some point. I've pushed my CTL up pretty far, and held it up there. Will be interesting to see how that plays out for racing, after racing at a lower training load under my coach the last few years.
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TT bikes are like playing the piano. You suck until one day things just click. When it does it's pretty cool. Gotta be patient and persistent.
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For me, I think my TT position is engaging muscles differently enough that even small blocks of time off the TT bike (like a week for the eye surgery) really cause things to be tough when I come back to it. I'm more sore/stiff, can feel more lactic acid more quickly in my legs, and my upper body & neck fatigue more quickly.
I think @Hermes told a story about getting to a track to race which was kind of a unique track. His perspective was its best to show up with the mindset, "I am gonna love this track". Same thing with the TT bike. Decide you're going to love it and then ride it til you do.
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Not a big surprise that where I live horses are a part of the environment with everything from working stock, traditional rodeo, quarter horse racing and equestrian events all around. Certain routes take me past barrel racers or show jumpers in training and mares with their foals in roadside paddocks. When in the mood they will chase riderless along the fence-line. Beautiful to see and requiring an all-out effort to try to match them.
Today: Quarter horse yearlings 1, Bandera 0.
I am in good company:
https://www.veloaficionado.com/blog/c...sus-horse-duel
-Bandera
Today: Quarter horse yearlings 1, Bandera 0.
I am in good company:
https://www.veloaficionado.com/blog/c...sus-horse-duel
-Bandera
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1:24 at endurance pace this morning with 3/5/7 minute sweet spot intervals to wake my legs back up. Felt decent but not wonderful, probably still a bit tired from Saturday...which turned out to have been my hardest effort to date when I went back and reviewed the previous one. I guess there's something to that "geezers take longer to recover" stuff.
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Today's workout was supposed to be 1x20' at threshold and 2x20' at sweet spot, with the first two at 60-70 rpm and the last at 85+ rpm. The first one was relatively easy. I started the second one at sweet spot and after a couple of minutes thought, "What the hell, I'll try this one at threshold too." Got through that one with no problem. Started the third one and briefly considered doing it at threshold and decided not to push my luck, still ended up just four watts short of threshold anyway. Pleasent surprise. If I could only have the same success with losing weight...
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#9525
fuggitivo solitario
Weather got decent yesterday so I dusted off the bike and went out doing some JRA at Pace. Ended up being 37 miles with ~3100' which is not @revchuck flat. Got to love the Appalachains till the grade turns all double digit.