New York Gran Fondo
02-03-15, 06:50 PM
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I'm in, for the Fondo I mean.
02-10-15, 11:07 AM
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Interestingly, there seems to be two camps on the GFNY. People who feel, as you do, that the cost is too high given their proximity to the route or people who sort of treat it the same way you to eating at a higher-end restaurant. Sure, in theory, you could prepare the same food that you're eating, but not having to do that plus the experience as a whole, makes it worth it for some folks.
You know what the scam is? The fact that he has to pay police departments to serve as crowd marshals when most of them have groups of volunteers who agree to serve as traffic marshals for events. My point is they're not actually incurring that much overtime cost.
It seems he's going after an increasingly international contingent who make it a primary U.S. event, along with the traditional NYC racing crowd. Uli definitely as a 'tude, but if that event could serve as a springboard to one day getting a domestic and/or one-day Pro Continental race in NYC, that would be beyond cool.
I think that could definitely happen at some point if the right folks got together.
You know what the scam is? The fact that he has to pay police departments to serve as crowd marshals when most of them have groups of volunteers who agree to serve as traffic marshals for events. My point is they're not actually incurring that much overtime cost.
It seems he's going after an increasingly international contingent who make it a primary U.S. event, along with the traditional NYC racing crowd. Uli definitely as a 'tude, but if that event could serve as a springboard to one day getting a domestic and/or one-day Pro Continental race in NYC, that would be beyond cool.
I think that could definitely happen at some point if the right folks got together.
02-10-15, 11:23 AM
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I am going simply because I have never been to NYC, so there is a couple of days extra to explore. Second, not to many opportunities around for a timed 100 miler with age category recognition.
02-11-15, 07:49 PM
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02-12-15, 12:52 PM
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Interestingly, there seems to be two camps on the GFNY. People who feel, as you do, that the cost is too high given their proximity to the route or people who sort of treat it the same way you to eating at a higher-end restaurant. Sure, in theory, you could prepare the same food that you're eating, but not having to do that plus the experience as a whole, makes it worth it for some folks.
You know what the scam is? The fact that he has to pay police departments to serve as crowd marshals when most of them have groups of volunteers who agree to serve as traffic marshals for events. My point is they're not actually incurring that much overtime cost.
It seems he's going after an increasingly international contingent who make it a primary U.S. event, along with the traditional NYC racing crowd. Uli definitely as a 'tude, but if that event could serve as a springboard to one day getting a domestic and/or one-day Pro Continental race in NYC, that would be beyond cool.
I think that could definitely happen at some point if the right folks got together.
You know what the scam is? The fact that he has to pay police departments to serve as crowd marshals when most of them have groups of volunteers who agree to serve as traffic marshals for events. My point is they're not actually incurring that much overtime cost.
It seems he's going after an increasingly international contingent who make it a primary U.S. event, along with the traditional NYC racing crowd. Uli definitely as a 'tude, but if that event could serve as a springboard to one day getting a domestic and/or one-day Pro Continental race in NYC, that would be beyond cool.
I think that could definitely happen at some point if the right folks got together.
02-12-15, 12:59 PM
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that's never going to happen. NYC is closer to a flat out cycling ban than inviting some event that requires road closures. The funny thing about the NYGrand fondo is that the majority is in NJ. NYC had a pro crit on wall street (go Joe Papp), and a stage of the tour de trump (maybe dupont) in central park. Those days are over.
Already, there's a well-known crit in Harlem that attracts a decent crowd including some Continental teams.
When people say "those days are over" in regard to NYC, NY, NJ politics, its because no one's wiling to try something. And no one may try launching a race, but it could certainly happen.
02-12-15, 01:12 PM
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My inlaws live in west Las vegas area (off 95)... i've never made it further east than the strip really.
I'm sure since my MIL is in DC for that weekend and it's just my FIL, we'll do some bigass steak dinner the night before (probably Lawry's) and then I'll eat something good for breakie and head out
02-13-15, 09:25 AM
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It may very well not happen, but the cycling ban talk is nuts. Citibike is very successful and cycling is growing in popularity. Yes, there are flare ops, largely following an accident, but there's going to be no ban.
Already, there's a well-known crit in Harlem that attracts a decent crowd including some Continental teams.
When people say "those days are over" in regard to NYC, NY, NJ politics, its because no one's wiling to try something. And no one may try launching a race, but it could certainly happen.
Already, there's a well-known crit in Harlem that attracts a decent crowd including some Continental teams.
When people say "those days are over" in regard to NYC, NY, NJ politics, its because no one's wiling to try something. And no one may try launching a race, but it could certainly happen.
Harlem is no longer a pro calendar race so it doesn't have draw pro teams, aside from the guys already from the area.
There's not likely to be s cycling ban, but races will continue to get harder to put on, not easier. Anything that requires closures adds a degree of difficulty and something like a pro race the length of the gran fondo is bravado talking.
