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Old 06-01-05, 11:04 PM
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Companies/Parts To Avoid

As a fairly new guy, a few questions come up when looking at bikes. Figuring out what the best are is pretty easy in most cases. It seems that Specialized and K2 have it down. But a big question that always comes to my mind is "What companies should you avoid?" Usually, that takes care of bad parts, but once in a while there are a few lemons. So what companies/parts do you think it's smart to stay away from?
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I personally dont like haro very much but some people on this board are pleased with them.

Just stay away from department store , hummer, and honda bikes.
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While Specialized does, K2 is somewhere there. To give an honest listing would set off a firestorm.
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Originally Posted by KonaRider24
To give an honest listing would set off a firestorm.
Very true.
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Originally Posted by Dirtbike
and honda bikes.
Until the DH rig goes for sale.
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Originally Posted by KonaRider24
To give an honest listing would set off a firestorm.
Trying to state the actual best in order would do that. But I was just kicking out examples. I guess "have it down" was a poor choice of words.
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Originally Posted by Zetal
Trying to state the actual best in order would do that. But I was just kicking out examples. I guess "have it down" was a poor choice of words.
It's impossible, everyone has their own opinions.
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Originally Posted by KonaRider24
Until the DH rig goes for sale.
Its going to be pretty expensive...
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Which is the case with DH racing bikes.
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Just wondering, how much is the frame going to cost?
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No idea off the top of my head.
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Im not a big fan of some of the cannodale propriety stuff. I like the fact That I bought a bike that was equiped with off the shelf SRAM, Avid, and Rock Shox gear, stuff which came with its own manual and would be easy to replace if i needed to. When Buying a frame I look for something that is of a quality Where i wouldn't mind upgrade components on. I have used shimano and sram stuff and Have ever had a major problem with either that wasn't my own fault
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Im not a big fan of some of the cannodale propriety stuff.
I have to agree with you there. C'dale proprietary stuff is ever so much fun
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I have to agree with you there. C'dale proprietary stuff is ever so much fun
I see what you mean... I took a look at their stuff to see what you mean and some of it just looks plain goofy.
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I see what you mean... I took a look at their stuff to see what you mean and some of it just looks plain goofy.
You should try working on it. <shudder>
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Cannondale does require more of an after-sale commitment. You must be on good terms with your dealer in order to be happy with the bike. Their stuff works great, but they're as high maintenance as Jennifer Lopez. Personally, I'm warming to Felt, as they seem to be good value and well designed, much like Jamis. Things to avoid? Entry level bikes and entry level components. I'm certain that nearly ever major brand out there offers at least one item or model that is spec'd to a lower price point rather than what we would consider to be an acceptable level of quality.
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I would also avoid Cannondale bikes like the plague.

Even the simple rigid bike I bought 10 years ago was difficult to upgrade due to Cannondale using an off-sized head tube. That Lefty and Headshock stuff is even worse.
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Originally Posted by Zetal
It seems that Specialized and K2 have it down.
I have yet to see one K2 bike on or off the trail.
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Avoid
1 - canondale
2 - any other seatpost but thomson
3 - hayes mechs or promax mechs
4 - under xt hubs, rapid rise sucks ass, flippy shifters do to. I tend to like after market rear hubs
5 - 9mm front axle forks
6 - Tioga wheels (owned 3 different kinds and they all blew)
7 - No love for truvativ bb's. I went through 3 before I trashed them in place of fsa

Loves
1 - wtb saddles
2 - thomson seatposts (there is no comparison)
3 - marzocchi forks
4 - Maxxis wheels
5 - ryno lites for trails, 321ds (or whatever they are) for freeriding/dh
6 - The new avids hydros are the best value brakes around
7 - anything by fsa makes me happy
8 - e13 chainguides

Thats the short list.
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Cannondale's are for Mac users, people who like to have a one stop shop (because there is only maker of most primary parts) and pay dearly for it. Stay away from them.
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Originally Posted by crashnburn
Cannondale's are for Mac users
LMAO. Is there a "Quote of the Day" award???
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Stupid one button mouse.
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When I worked at Gotham Bikes we were always waiting for weeks to months for Cannondale parts whenever someone brought in their bike with something like the Lefty fork on it. Hard to get replacement parts from Cannondale.

I wouldn't buy a Cannondale MTB either (or a road bike).
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I think carbon seatposts are parts to stay away from.

File them under completely unnecessary
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Originally Posted by crashnburn
Cannondale's are for Mac users
Dang, I had no idea Cannondale's were so vastly superior!
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