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12-14-05, 12:29 PM
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here is something no one has mentioned about SRAM rear derailleurs. the X9 and X0 RDs use little plastic inserts, pressed into the metal derailleur body that the limit screws thread into. we had a guy who bought a brand new bike from one of our stores, and on his first ride the insert for the high limit screw got pushed out of the derailleur body, which caused his derailleur to shift into the spokes, and his chain to actually get wedged between the cassette and hub flange so tightly that we had to pull his cassette off to get the chain out. this was an X.0 RD, and shouldn't have happened.
SRAM claims they use the plastic inserts so if you cross-thread the limit screws, you just replace the insert and not the whole RD. my argument to that is "who the hell takes their limit screws all the way out anyway?" it almost makes sense, but not enough to justify spending 3 times as much for an X.0 as you would for an XT.
FWIW, i run X.9 shifters and RD on my bike and i love the way the SRAM stuff works (two thumb buttons). i'll probably upgrade to X.0 shifters at some point, for the extra adjustability. i also have run XT with deore pods and honestly, the "crispness" of the shifting is pretty much equal in my eyes.
SRAM claims they use the plastic inserts so if you cross-thread the limit screws, you just replace the insert and not the whole RD. my argument to that is "who the hell takes their limit screws all the way out anyway?" it almost makes sense, but not enough to justify spending 3 times as much for an X.0 as you would for an XT.
FWIW, i run X.9 shifters and RD on my bike and i love the way the SRAM stuff works (two thumb buttons). i'll probably upgrade to X.0 shifters at some point, for the extra adjustability. i also have run XT with deore pods and honestly, the "crispness" of the shifting is pretty much equal in my eyes.
12-14-05, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OneTinSloth
here is something no one has mentioned about SRAM rear derailleurs. the X9 and X0 RDs use little plastic inserts, pressed into the metal derailleur body that the limit screws thread into. we had a guy who bought a brand new bike from one of our stores, and on his first ride the insert for the high limit screw got pushed out of the derailleur body, which caused his derailleur to shift into the spokes, and his chain to actually get wedged between the cassette and hub flange so tightly that we had to pull his cassette off to get the chain out. this was an X.0 RD, and shouldn't have happened.
SRAM claims they use the plastic inserts so if you cross-thread the limit screws, you just replace the insert and not the whole RD. my argument to that is "who the hell takes their limit screws all the way out anyway?" it almost makes sense, but not enough to justify spending 3 times as much for an X.0 as you would for an XT.
FWIW, i run X.9 shifters and RD on my bike and i love the way the SRAM stuff works (two thumb buttons). i'll probably upgrade to X.0 shifters at some point, for the extra adjustability. i also have run XT with deore pods and honestly, the "crispness" of the shifting is pretty much equal in my eyes.
SRAM claims they use the plastic inserts so if you cross-thread the limit screws, you just replace the insert and not the whole RD. my argument to that is "who the hell takes their limit screws all the way out anyway?" it almost makes sense, but not enough to justify spending 3 times as much for an X.0 as you would for an XT.
FWIW, i run X.9 shifters and RD on my bike and i love the way the SRAM stuff works (two thumb buttons). i'll probably upgrade to X.0 shifters at some point, for the extra adjustability. i also have run XT with deore pods and honestly, the "crispness" of the shifting is pretty much equal in my eyes.
I actually broke off the limit screw on the low end and never could get shifting right in the lowest gear until I figured it out. Just threaded in a new screw and the problem was solved. The next weekend a stick flipped up into my spokes and broke the derailler and hanger off
12-14-05, 07:51 PM
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may i ask how, exactly you broke it? i mean...it's pretty protected in there...unless you were wrenching on it when it broke.
oh, and sucks about the stick...were you able to get a new hanger?
oh, and sucks about the stick...were you able to get a new hanger?
12-14-05, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OneTinSloth
may i ask how, exactly you broke it? i mean...it's pretty protected in there...unless you were wrenching on it when it broke.
oh, and sucks about the stick...were you able to get a new hanger?
oh, and sucks about the stick...were you able to get a new hanger?
Oh yeah.. for 25 bucks from the freaking bike shop.. what a ripoff.
As for the screw.. I'm not sure. I'm not exactly easy on my gear... not only was the low stop broken, but the B-tension screw broke off as well. Made adjustment virtually impossible until I figured it out. I have no clue how it broke. They broke so cleanly it didn't even look like they were broken off unless you really closely looked at them. Easy to replace, though.
12-14-05, 10:14 PM
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$25 is pretty standard for hangers from most shops. the reason they cost the consumer so much is that the shop has to keep multiples of each kind (at least for the brands they carry) in stock, and they generally cost a good chunk of change from the distributor.
if you ask me, the manufacturer should provide them at a much lower price for their dealers than they do...after all, it is basically a wear and tear component, like chains, cables, or tubes and tires. they get bent or broken so often...sometimes they break while a mechanic is trying to bend it back...the cannondale mountain hangers are pretty good at breaking that way.
any way you slice it, someone's always getting screwed.
if you ask me, the manufacturer should provide them at a much lower price for their dealers than they do...after all, it is basically a wear and tear component, like chains, cables, or tubes and tires. they get bent or broken so often...sometimes they break while a mechanic is trying to bend it back...the cannondale mountain hangers are pretty good at breaking that way.
any way you slice it, someone's always getting screwed.
12-15-05, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CranxOC
That may be partially true however, beyond the "feel" there's also the fact that the derailleur actually shifts into the gear I want it to shift into when I press one of the levers; something my XTR derailleurs almost never did with any kind of regularity.
The only reason anyone can argue the merits of XTR vs. X.0 is likely because they've never used both...period. It's kind of like comparing a Hyundai to a BMW; they're simply not comparable other than to say they both have wheels and engines!
The only reason anyone can argue the merits of XTR vs. X.0 is likely because they've never used both...period. It's kind of like comparing a Hyundai to a BMW; they're simply not comparable other than to say they both have wheels and engines!
The difference is not Hyundai vs. BMW as this is extremely exagerated . IMO the comparison between SRAM & Shimano is more like Ford Vs. Chevy.
T.J.
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12-15-05, 06:03 AM
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One of my bikes uses Shimano components and I can never seem to get it to shift the way I want it. My SRAM bike however is flawless and easy to adjust. Not sure why I can't seem to get a grip on the Shimano shifting.. just seems harder to adjust. I'm thinking I might need a new cassette, but we'll see.
