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Pheard 02-22-06 09:23 PM

Im going to give the background on why I ask this question.

I went on a ride up montara today and got too the peak. 2000 feet of elevation, it was invigorating. I even beat my best time up, 50 minutes :) On the way down there is an area called the crack which mostly people who have dh bikes ride down. I walk down it as a shortcut(otherwise I'd have a 2-3 mile ride all the way around the side of the mt). I decided try to ride some of it though. I went directly into a big rock and did a nice over-the-handle bar flip. Ouchies, scrapes everywhere but heres the worst

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5...ture0244ss.jpg

Anyways, this fall horribly bent my rear rim(I just payed the bike shop to have it trued this morning :( )On the way down my rear tire pops. I repair it, but I dont have anything to buff the area so I pray it will hold. 5 minutes later it pops again, in a different place. I figure something to do with the bent rim, duh! Anyways I just walked the rest of the way. Now getting to the point, I must have past 5-6 bikers and only one guy asked if I needed a patch. I didn't need one, but I was surprised at how many people went by without even offering help.

So would you be a good samaritan and help someone out in need? be it a blown tire, or something wrong with their bike?

Dannihilator 02-22-06 09:26 PM

I always stop to make sure.

mcoine 02-22-06 09:26 PM

Yeah, I have and would. Also, you'ld be suprised how far you can ride on a flat tire off road.

BoSoxYacht 02-22-06 09:30 PM

I always stop and offer help . Everyone reading this should do the same. Please , don't even try to give me some lame reason why not to offer help.

The Selector 02-22-06 09:30 PM

were they flying downhill? or going slowly

Pheard 02-22-06 09:32 PM

All passed me going uphill at like 5 mph while I was slowly walking my bike down the hill. Fun 3 mile walk =/ not to mention I just got my rear wheel trued this morning at the lbs and now its bent again, arg!@

LowCel 02-22-06 09:33 PM

I would definately have offered. I can't even begin to count how many tubes and CO2 cartridges I have given away to strangers on the trail.

MattP. 02-22-06 09:36 PM

I always carry tubes and tools. If someone is on the side of the trail, I deffinetly stop and ask what's up and if see if i can help of if they need anything.

sngltrackdufus 02-22-06 09:39 PM

It depends for myself. If they seem to me to be the type to offer help than i will offer help,i will even fix their problem for them if need be.

toolba 02-22-06 09:40 PM

I always offer help. This past weekend I even stopped to offer water out of my CamelBack to a dog. The dog's owner stopped me on the trail to say her dog was overheated and thirsty, and she had nothing to give him.
Hey, what can I say, I'm a hellava guy;)

Pheard 02-22-06 09:42 PM

For some reason whenever I repatch my tire in a hurry it allways ends up popping again within a few minutes.

MattP. 02-22-06 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by toolba
I always offer help. This past weekend I even stopped to offer water out of my CamelBack to a dog. The dog's owner stopped me on the trail to say her dog was overheated and thirsty, and she had nothing to give him.
Hey, what can I say, I'm a hellava guy;)

Yes, but it would have been cooler if you just opened your bladder and let him lick out of it :D

haha

Snuffleupagus 02-22-06 09:52 PM

Always, even racing I'll throw out a wheezing "you okay, need anything?"

I had a guy lend me a chain tool during a race once (me thinking it's a short XC race, I don't need my blowout bag :p) I've also taken a tube from a guy at a local trailhead.

It's always a good idea to stock up on bike karma. I've been driving, and having witnessed a presumably new roadie (new b/c he was wearing a sweatsuit) walking his bike on the shoulder of the road. I stopped, gave him a tube, changed his tire and gave him some pointers on how to do it for himself. I've given out tubes to other roadies, but I actually don't recall another MTB'er needing one yet.

BoSoxYacht 02-22-06 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by NoF3ar
For some reason whenever I repatch my tire in a hurry it allways ends up popping again within a few minutes.

Do you try to find what made the flat (like a thorn in your tire)?

Pheard 02-22-06 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Do you try to find what made the flat (like a thorn in your tire)?

All of my flats before today have been pinch flats. I don't know what caused todays though, the wheel kept rubbing into something, I dont know what it was.

The Selector 02-22-06 10:10 PM

yeah I would say whats up... what fork are you running?

Guest 02-22-06 10:10 PM

Not even an issue. Not only would I insist on helping, I'd offer up my tools and whatever it took, and I'd stay with you until either help came or I was sure you were cool. Someone in that much distress needs serious help.

What comes around goes around.

Koffee

Pheard 02-22-06 10:14 PM

My fork is a quadra 5(not sure if its a quadra 5 or just plainly a quadra, I know its a quadra something)from 1995 I believe. Svr said in the post my rigs thread it only gets 25-30 mm which explains why my shocks don't deflect rocks for crap.

Am I sensing some sarcasm koffee?

Guest 02-22-06 10:20 PM

Absolutely no sarcasm.

I've stayed with people in need. I've pulled over in the middle of the dark to help out folks- men and women. I carry a crapload of stuff for all kinds of emergencies. And I have emergency money in the event of a really bad problem. I've given away the last of my supplies on more than one occasion. I just don't think it's right to go out and crap all over somoene at the expense of someone else in the name of a "good ride". That person could be in real trouble. It could be life or death. It could just mean the difference between an aweful day and having a very good day.

I just would not feel right leaving someone behind at all. I've had it done to me. It feels like crap.

Koffee

Guest 02-22-06 10:22 PM

Oh, and I also have a cpr kit and a first aid kit too. I can do just about anything from fix a broken arm to render cpr in the event of real respiratory distress.

Koffee

thorton 02-22-06 10:24 PM

I would like to think that most people would help, I know I would stop to help, even if all I had were parts they could use since I didn't know how to use them yet. :)

mattress 02-22-06 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by KonaRider24
I always stop to make sure.

+1

The Selector 02-22-06 10:29 PM

25-30 mm fork on a downhill course??? what were you thinking buddy?

btadlock 02-22-06 10:42 PM

Bike karma, it will come back to get you.
I always slow/stop to make sure that they are ok, I have given tubes, use of my tools and my time.
Sorry for your experience.

Pheard 02-22-06 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by koffee brown
Absolutely no sarcasm.

I've stayed with people in need. I've pulled over in the middle of the dark to help out folks- men and women. I carry a crapload of stuff for all kinds of emergencies. And I have emergency money in the event of a really bad problem. I've given away the last of my supplies on more than one occasion. I just don't think it's right to go out and crap all over somoene at the expense of someone else in the name of a "good ride". That person could be in real trouble. It could be life or death. It could just mean the difference between an aweful day and having a very good day.

I just would not feel right leaving someone behind at all. I've had it done to me. It feels like crap.

Koffee

Sorry then, I mistaked sarcasm for a friendly and caring person :) you can help me any day :)


Originally Posted by The Selector
25-30 mm fork on a downhill course??? what were you thinking buddy?

heres some dh and freeriders doing the crack in this clip. Click on the "pacifica" clip.

http://www.petefagerlin.com/cavid.htm

Not the whole movie is the crack, but the majority is. You can tell the crack by the steepness, and not too wide trail. I don't try to ride the parts with drops, I just try to ride the things in between. Which obviously are to steep and rocky for my bike.


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