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Old 04-17-03, 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by chad
anna:

Regarding mechanical discs. I personally like how simple they are and IF I buy a set they will not be hydraulic but mechanical as in the NUNU ones.


Thats just my opinion though =)
Just don't buy the hayes mechs...they have way less power than v's.


Hydraulic is a bigger hassle and I believe they weigh more.
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My entire hayes front and rear with levers weighs less than the hayes mechs calipers alone with no cabling or levers. I don't know about avids but the hayes are signifigantly lighter.
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Originally posted by anna
IMaelstrom The EXR fork seems like the best for a beginner like me.
Good choice. I just sold mine to my cousin to replace his suntour and it made a huge difference in his ride. My gf loves hers as well. I almost killed every time I took it out but I don't ride xc and needed a beefier fork. Enjoy
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Originally posted by Maelstrom
Just don't buy the hayes mechs...they have way less power than v's.



My entire hayes front and rear with levers weighs less than the hayes mechs calipers alone with no cabling or levers. I don't know about avids but the hayes are signifigantly lighter.
Hey if you dont mind taking this OT a little and explaining to me the reason the hydraulic weighs more? I was nervous to state my opinion as I was only 60% sure.

(I appreciate being corrected I hate walking around being the wandering idiot)


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Originally posted by chad
Hey if you dont mind taking this OT a little and explaining to me the reason the hydraulic weighs more? I was nervous to state my opinion as I was only 60% sure.

(I appreciate being corrected I hate walking around being the wandering idiot)


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I meant hayes hydros (caliper and lever) weigh signifigantly less than hayes mechs (only the caliper not including the lever). I am not including tha Avid Mechs as I have never actually lifted a pair up seperately...
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Isn't their more then just calipers + levers for a hydro system? I was under the impression it was more complicated then that and the simplicity of the mech's made them lighter etc;


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Originally posted by chad
Isn't their more then just calipers + levers for a hydro system? I was under the impression it was more complicated then that and the simplicity of the mech's made them lighter etc;


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You have the caliper, hose and lever. Thats it. Very simple system and very easy. You of course have the rotor as well but I believe that is to be assumed ...

With mechs you have cable, lever and caliper as well. Maintenance for either has been equal and really no big deal for me. Once the hayes are setup you never touch them. With mechs you have any of the problems associated with cable. Friction, stretch etc...

I found the mech system far more difficult and cumbersome than my current hydros. HOWEVER I had the hayes mechs which I consider to be well worth the 60$ american you pay for the SET. Meaning they are cheap and they suck.

As for weight I don't have a scale handy but picking up just the caliper in my hand and then picking up the entire hydro system in the same hand the mech caliper weighed AT LEAST double the entire hayes system. And this is coming from a guy whos ht weight almost 40 pounds. I care nothing for weight but the hayes hydros actually made my bike loose some Oh and as far as I know the hayes hydros are soem of the heaviest hyrdos currently available. But that is really hearsay as I don't track weights
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