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Old 06-05-07, 07:56 PM
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SRAM Vs. Shimano

I was just wondering how they compare. I'm looking at a 2007 Schwinn Mesa GSD and it has a SRAM SX-4 Rear Derailleur on it and I was wondering what model it is comparable to in the Shimano line.
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shimano alivio?
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Does anybody know for sure what it's comparable to?
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Does anybody know for sure what it's comparable to?
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shimano alivio
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Shimano derailluers are Crappola In My Opinion
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Shimano from top to bottom: (Deore) XTR, (Deore) XT, (Deore) LX, Deore, Alivio, Acera, Altus
Shimano also has the Saint and the Hone, but they are made for abusive riding, as in off of cliffs with very expensive bikes that need to be completely rebuilt after one serious ride. Shimano also has the Tourney, but I think they are spec'd on Walmart bikes.

SRAM from top to bottom: X0, X9, X7, SX5, SX4, 3.0 (why not SX3?).
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smashy
Here we go again.
Hopefully nothing will happen this time.
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Ok, sorry, but he he had a ? mark after his answer so I didn't know if he was sure or not.
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Originally Posted by mtnbk3000
Shimano derailluers are Crappola In My Opinion
I'm sure you arrived at that opinion based on extensive testing of both....

both sets will probably be similar in that price range...you probably wont notice a significant difference either way. most problems are caused by an improperly adjusted product...not an inferior product.
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X.0 ≈ XTR
X.9 ≈ XT
X.7 ≈ LX
SX-5 ≈ Deore

Above SRAM wins.

Below Shimano wins.

SX-4 ≈ Alivio
3.0 ≈ Acera

From X.0 to X.5, I would take the SRAM stuff over Shimano. The SX-4 and 3.0 stuff is not very good at this time.

SRAM is getting better about this. Their recently made a new X.0(ish) trigger for X.9 and moved the other triggers down a level. Now their completely crappy trigger is the SX-4.

Though, the presence of a SRAM derailleur makes for an easy upgrade as all you need do is buy an X-7 shifter (trigger or grip) which will get you the "set and forget" SRAM advantage.
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Hey, thanks for the info!!
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Originally Posted by Minesbroken
I'm sure you arrived at that opinion based on extensive testing of both....

both sets will probably be similar in that price range...you probably wont notice a significant difference either way. most problems are caused by an improperly adjusted product...not an inferior product.
i have more use with sram derailluers, i just find that 1. when they break they stay in one piece, just get bent to S***, but when shimano derailluers break, they actually fall apart, in the middle of a ride i have had a derailluer pulley fall out, the one on the bottom, which should never come out. They locktite the bottom one in. Luckly i noticed it before the whole derailluer failled.
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Whether Shimano or SRAM, should I upgrade my cassette from 7 rings to 8...or maybe even 9? It seems 7-speed shifters are last year's news & harder to come by than the 8's or 9's. Also, is swapping out cassettes easy enough for a newbie like me, or should it be left to my LBS?

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Originally Posted by willtsmith_nwi
X.0 ≈ XTR
X.9 ≈ XT
X.7 ≈ LX
SX-5 ≈ Deore

Above SRAM wins.
I disagree. My XT rear derailleur has been far more durable than my X.9 ever was. The X.9 main pivot bushing loosened up on me. My XT is still laterally tight. I'm also not a fan of the thumb triggers on the X.9. Not because I'm a moron and can't get used to them. I became accustomed to them in an hour. It was b/c of the where the thumb trigger resides. When set up to where I could reach both thumb levers comfortably...I would accidentally bump the trigger with my thumb on rough landings or rock gardens.

Still an opinion based on my experience and riding style. I have thought about going with X.0 twisters and RD...but I dunno if I can go back to twisters after using rapid fire 9 speed triggers. I'm also assuming that the X.0 RD won't accel in the durability dept. due to the carbon construction.
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
How do the muppets come up with this stuff?
The two old guys on the balcony know everything.
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Originally Posted by dminor
The two old guys on the balcony know everything.
...plus, the Swedish chef.
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Originally Posted by Mountain_Owl
...plus, the Swedish chef.
haha...I love that character. The last chef that worked in this restaurant is EXACTLY that character...funny ****
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I've always been a fan of Dr. Strangepork and Link from "Pigs in Space".
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Originally Posted by mcoine
I've always been a fan of Dr. Strangepork and Link from "Pigs in Space".
Pigs...In...SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE! LOL!!!
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The two old guys on the balcony know everything.
That line made finally gave this thread a reason to exist
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Originally Posted by willtsmith_nwi
X.0 ≈ XTR
X.9 ≈ XT
X.7 ≈ LX
SX-5 ≈ Deore

Above SRAM wins.

Below Shimano wins.

SX-4 ≈ Alivio
3.0 ≈ Acera

From X.0 to X.5, I would take the SRAM stuff over Shimano. The SX-4 and 3.0 stuff is not very good at this time.

SRAM is getting better about this. Their recently made a new X.0(ish) trigger for X.9 and moved the other triggers down a level. Now their completely crappy trigger is the SX-4.

Though, the presence of a SRAM derailleur makes for an easy upgrade as all you need do is buy an X-7 shifter (trigger or grip) which will get you the "set and forget" SRAM advantage.
SRAM has some new offerings though. Is it SRAM rear and Shimano front? The main criticism I've heard is all the plastic SRAM used. It flexes too much. Personally, I use Shimano so I can't really comment.

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Originally Posted by willtsmith_nwi
X.0 ≈ XTR
X.9 ≈ XT
X.7 ≈ LX
SX-5 ≈ Deore

Above SRAM wins.

Below Shimano wins.

SX-4 ≈ Alivio
3.0 ≈ Acera

X.0≈XTR
X.9>XT
X.7≥LX
SX-5≤Deore (with the exception of the SX-5 shifter, which is better than the deore shifter)
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