I think shimano has finally gotten their stuff back together. I'm extremely pleased the the new xtr rear deraillieur, love the fact that they allow options. So I was a bit curious about the new XT pedals, went into work yesterday and they had ordered a set and they were sitting in the display. My curiosity got the best of me I bought them. From what i have noticed is that the fine adjustments work better then the older variations of spd pedals. Stainless steel spindles, setting the release on it is very simple, just requires a 4mm allen key, negative decreases the release tension, postive increases the release tension. They're also lighter than the spd's that I had originally put on the DMR.

The cleat is the resilient SM-SH51 cleat which can be used on about 90%* of the mtb spd pedals shimano makes, which makes locating cleats when it comes time to change them alot easier.

I'm very pleased with these pedals and don't exactly know why I haven't gone clipless on the mtb earlier.

Looks good ; I'm a huge fan of the M647 pedals. Worlds above the previous 545 and 646 models, IMO. Seem to work better overall, and the durability has been good. So far; I was initially a bit worried about their plastic/composite/whatever outer cages, but they've so far held up longer than the 545 and 646 pedals I had in the past. In spite of my attempts to break them on various pointy bits of rock and wood.

Ok, got it, was just a typo on my part, have about 20 other things going through my mind at the moment. Probably was thinking float when I typed it instead of the release tension which I had originally meant to post.

I know this is a stupid question but why is it that when I hear about clipless pedals they have clips??

I am confused.

Toe clip pedals have a clip you put your foot into. Clipless pedals do not have that.

The clips they refer to as in clipless are the toe clips.

You probably had those pedals alot longer than mine.

Thanks I understand now