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09-05-07, 10:09 AM
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My post was not intended as an attack or to make a "mountain out of a mole hill", but merely a response to your comment that people use a gym as a means to show off, are wannabe Arnolds, etc. You had a negative experience with one or two of the people who work out in a gym, so that makes everyone who uses a gym an attention seeking ape? That seems like a very closed minded way of viewing things. What would have happened if the first guy you met at the LBS was a wrench toting jackass, would you have turned away from cycling? The fact is that many of us are cyclists as a means to get exercise. This indicates to me that many of us are health conscious on some level. Many health conscious people utilize more than one means of exercise to better themselves. In insulting those who use the gym, even on a bike forum, you were bound to get a response, even if you tried to qualify it with your "no offense meant" disclaimer. I never took your post as a personal attack, I was merely responding as someone who utilizes a gym, is not there to get attention and is certainly not an Arnold wannabe.
my apologies to you and others who choose to use a gym (I like freinds, enemies arent to bad, but freinds are better 
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09-07-07, 12:11 AM
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While protein does help slightly to offset the muscle loss, from everything I've been told and have read it doesn't help completely.
09-07-07, 01:41 AM
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I used to work out with weights pretty hard, with a split routine, 6 days a week with cardio on top of that 3 days a week. About 2 months ago I went mountain biking with my mates for the first time since I was a kid (on my MTB I got when I was 11). About that time I also moved stations to one 17.5 miles away so I started using my road bike to get there. (That had been made pretty redundant by all my time at the gym.) My previous post involved a lot of strength work using riot shields and door opening equipment and the like so my strength did have a function I suppose. My new promotion does not involve this level of strength work.
However...
Since I started cycling outdoors again (instead of in the gym) I too have had an epiphany.
I have hardly been to the gym and have become addicted to cycling. I got myself a new MTB (Commencal Meta 5.5.2) and go out on the trails at least once a week and road cycle at least 100 miles per week.
I try and go to the gym once a week for an all over light weight high rep workout. I still do press ups and sit ups/plank in the mornings though. As for bench press, whoever said that press ups were useless, what use does the bench press give you? Sure, if your on the floor or against a wall and someone is on top of you you can possibly push them off easier, but press ups work your whole core as well as the chest, arms and shoulders and are a far more effective excercise for body health. Working the core improves posture and increases metabolism, resulting in the burning of more fat.
If you want to pile on muscle then you need to cut out cardio. Warm up doing the excercise you are about to do using a light weight. That is what I used to do, but I have made a choice, I want a strong, lean, healthy body and heart and I am finding that cycling is transforming my life for the better. I did martial arts for 17 years before hitting the gym and got a great, lean, supple, functional body as I am getting towards now but I am enjoying cycling far more than I ever thought possible! When I was at the gym all the time I had trouble because some muscles such as my lats restricted my freedom of movement which frustrated me immensely as I was always used to having very free and full movement of my upper body through kung-fu.
It depends what you want really. I would suggest a balance of high rep / low weight gym work 2-3 times a week and cardio the same if you want a balanced lean body. Me, I can't get off my bike!
I still use whey protein shakes everyday as they really do help with muscle recovery IME
Sorry for the rambling reply...
However...
Since I started cycling outdoors again (instead of in the gym) I too have had an epiphany.
I have hardly been to the gym and have become addicted to cycling. I got myself a new MTB (Commencal Meta 5.5.2) and go out on the trails at least once a week and road cycle at least 100 miles per week.
I try and go to the gym once a week for an all over light weight high rep workout. I still do press ups and sit ups/plank in the mornings though. As for bench press, whoever said that press ups were useless, what use does the bench press give you? Sure, if your on the floor or against a wall and someone is on top of you you can possibly push them off easier, but press ups work your whole core as well as the chest, arms and shoulders and are a far more effective excercise for body health. Working the core improves posture and increases metabolism, resulting in the burning of more fat.
If you want to pile on muscle then you need to cut out cardio. Warm up doing the excercise you are about to do using a light weight. That is what I used to do, but I have made a choice, I want a strong, lean, healthy body and heart and I am finding that cycling is transforming my life for the better. I did martial arts for 17 years before hitting the gym and got a great, lean, supple, functional body as I am getting towards now but I am enjoying cycling far more than I ever thought possible! When I was at the gym all the time I had trouble because some muscles such as my lats restricted my freedom of movement which frustrated me immensely as I was always used to having very free and full movement of my upper body through kung-fu.
It depends what you want really. I would suggest a balance of high rep / low weight gym work 2-3 times a week and cardio the same if you want a balanced lean body. Me, I can't get off my bike!
I still use whey protein shakes everyday as they really do help with muscle recovery IME
Sorry for the rambling reply...
09-09-07, 12:30 AM
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I used to work out with weights pretty hard, with a split routine, 6 days a week with cardio on top of that 3 days a week. About 2 months ago I went mountain biking with my mates for the first time since I was a kid (on my MTB I got when I was 11). About that time I also moved stations to one 17.5 miles away so I started using my road bike to get there. (That had been made pretty redundant by all my time at the gym.) My previous post involved a lot of strength work using riot shields and door opening equipment and the like so my strength did have a function I suppose. My new promotion does not involve this level of strength work.
However...
Since I started cycling outdoors again (instead of in the gym) I too have had an epiphany.
I have hardly been to the gym and have become addicted to cycling. I got myself a new MTB (Commencal Meta 5.5.2) and go out on the trails at least once a week and road cycle at least 100 miles per week.
I try and go to the gym once a week for an all over light weight high rep workout. I still do press ups and sit ups/plank in the mornings though. As for bench press, whoever said that press ups were useless, what use does the bench press give you? Sure, if your on the floor or against a wall and someone is on top of you you can possibly push them off easier, but press ups work your whole core as well as the chest, arms and shoulders and are a far more effective excercise for body health. Working the core improves posture and increases metabolism, resulting in the burning of more fat.
If you want to pile on muscle then you need to cut out cardio. Warm up doing the excercise you are about to do using a light weight. That is what I used to do, but I have made a choice, I want a strong, lean, healthy body and heart and I am finding that cycling is transforming my life for the better. I did martial arts for 17 years before hitting the gym and got a great, lean, supple, functional body as I am getting towards now but I am enjoying cycling far more than I ever thought possible! When I was at the gym all the time I had trouble because some muscles such as my lats restricted my freedom of movement which frustrated me immensely as I was always used to having very free and full movement of my upper body through kung-fu.
It depends what you want really. I would suggest a balance of high rep / low weight gym work 2-3 times a week and cardio the same if you want a balanced lean body. Me, I can't get off my bike!
I still use whey protein shakes everyday as they really do help with muscle recovery IME
Sorry for the rambling reply...
However...
Since I started cycling outdoors again (instead of in the gym) I too have had an epiphany.
I have hardly been to the gym and have become addicted to cycling. I got myself a new MTB (Commencal Meta 5.5.2) and go out on the trails at least once a week and road cycle at least 100 miles per week.
I try and go to the gym once a week for an all over light weight high rep workout. I still do press ups and sit ups/plank in the mornings though. As for bench press, whoever said that press ups were useless, what use does the bench press give you? Sure, if your on the floor or against a wall and someone is on top of you you can possibly push them off easier, but press ups work your whole core as well as the chest, arms and shoulders and are a far more effective excercise for body health. Working the core improves posture and increases metabolism, resulting in the burning of more fat.
If you want to pile on muscle then you need to cut out cardio. Warm up doing the excercise you are about to do using a light weight. That is what I used to do, but I have made a choice, I want a strong, lean, healthy body and heart and I am finding that cycling is transforming my life for the better. I did martial arts for 17 years before hitting the gym and got a great, lean, supple, functional body as I am getting towards now but I am enjoying cycling far more than I ever thought possible! When I was at the gym all the time I had trouble because some muscles such as my lats restricted my freedom of movement which frustrated me immensely as I was always used to having very free and full movement of my upper body through kung-fu.
It depends what you want really. I would suggest a balance of high rep / low weight gym work 2-3 times a week and cardio the same if you want a balanced lean body. Me, I can't get off my bike!
I still use whey protein shakes everyday as they really do help with muscle recovery IME
Sorry for the rambling reply...
09-13-07, 11:22 PM
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If there is a Velocity facility in your area, give it a try for six weeks and report back with an evaluation.
https://www.velocitysp.com/
https://www.velocitysp.com/
09-14-07, 12:21 AM
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Been in the gym as a regular (4 x week) for about 9 years now. Weighed 190 when started and now about 218 and got everything in good cond., looking pretty decent for a 50 something guy. Yes, push ups help...just ask my old drill instructor...lol. My gym time has enabled me to ride the trails (road rider too) with pretty much anyone and not get too worn out. Gym time is probably not as critical for those in the 20-30 range, but then I've seen some really out of shape young guys. My experience with gyms is that 95% are there for the workout and socialization and darn few are there "posing". I've also met some very nice ladies, and (added bonus) watched some serious hard body, eye candy women work it. All good. Just grab your sweats, bring a towel, and do it.
09-14-07, 09:32 AM
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. As for bench press, whoever said that press ups were useless, what use does the bench press give you? Sure, if your on the floor or against a wall and someone is on top of you you can possibly push them off easier, but press ups work your whole core as well as the chest, arms and shoulders and are a far more effective excercise for body health. Working the core improves posture and increases metabolism, resulting in the burning of more fat.
If you want to pile on muscle then you need to cut out cardio. Warm up doing the excercise you are about to do using a light weight.
If you want to pile on muscle then you need to cut out cardio. Warm up doing the excercise you are about to do using a light weight.
Good advice. I have been lifting for over 10 years, and used to base my workouts on 3 exercises. Bench, Squat and Deadlifts and that worked great for a while. I could bench 2x my body weight and deadlift 3x my body weight. Then my knees, hips and shoulders started bothering me all the time. Now base it on push-ups, pull-ups and single leg bench squats. I notice no difference in size or functional (sports, work around the house etc.) strenth.
09-14-07, 04:58 PM
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i mtb and play college vball so i hit the gym almost every day.
I dont do any legs tho since it supposedly will hurt my vertical which right now is at 38 inches.
I dont do any legs tho since it supposedly will hurt my vertical which right now is at 38 inches.
