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Old 02-01-04 | 10:06 AM
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I am looking for a good all around tire at 2.2 or 2.3 for my new SX bike. Basically i am settled for the Nokian NBX 2.3 Kevlar, it has got very good reviews from UK sources and fits my needs perfectly, rugged, light and in the correct width. I just want a second opinion over this.

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Its a good tire, i bought one for my rocky mountain which is like DH/MX bike. Its a good all around tire and a nice tread, plus its a good weight. The only downside are usually Nokians are expensive, but i got my NBXs pretty cheap.
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For how wet it is over there I would think Michelins would be the pick. North shore riders swear by them and we have the same rain as you blokes
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Yeah but michelins weight a ton each and i dont have the opportunity to have chairlifts... so i need something at the most 750-800g.

I am thinking at the NBX 2.3 , the Panaracers Cinder 2.25, Trailblaster 2.1 and Megablaster 2.5 as alternatives.

The only michelin that could fit the bill is the comp24light which is 800g but its not available in the uk...

thanks for all the comments. Feel free to comment my list of choices.
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The more weight the less pinchflats, plus if you ever go tubeless, the Michelins are already Tubless compatible. The Nokians are goodtires, but are just as heavy as the Michelins are.
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The more weight the less pinchflats, plus if you ever go tubeless, the Michelins are already Tubless compatible. The Nokians are goodtires, but are just as heavy as the Michelins are.
well the lightest miche is 1000g and the NBX 2.3 is 650g thats veeery much apart. Anyhow i am also considering Panaracer Trailblasters ,Megablasters and FireXC pros.
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I've heard alot of bad things about Panaracers. Nokians are good tires, but a bit overpriced. Also look at IRC's offerings and give a look at Intense's offerings. Plus if you have the money look at a set of Maxxis Mobsters in the 2.5 setting. But if you do go with a pair of Panaracers, be prepared to change tubes fairly often since they are prone to pinchflats.
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If you think Nokians are expensive, don't bother looking at the Intense tires...whew!

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what about the new kenda blue grooves & nevegals??? they're supposed to be really good in the wet also. dunno about cost though.
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Originally Posted by a2psyklnut
If you think Nokians are expensive, don't bother looking at the Intense tires...whew!

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I know, I'm running a set of Intense tires, $70.00 each.

But the 26x3.0 Nokian is way up there same with the 2.6. At least $90.00 for the 3.0 and At the least $75 for the 2.6 Nokian.
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haha...living in canada is rough. I have been known to spend 120$ for a tire.
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they are adressing to me... which means communication with a lesser intelligence been (bean...or whaterever...i mean person).... some hioumor to be added soon

Anyhow...i dont know why some people dislike panaracers so much in USA in comparison with europe...

My further shortlisting...

NBX 2.3
Michelin Hot S 2.2
Panaracer FireXCPRo 2.1
Panaracer Trailblaster 2.1
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You can't lose with the FireXC but the Trailblaster is a real piece of crap. That's the only tire in your list I'd definitely recommend against. The rest are good tires IMO.
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You can't lose with the FireXC but the Trailblaster is a real piece of crap. That's the only tire in your list I'd definitely recommend against. The rest are good tires IMO.
BTW i am on the virge of ordering a new Panaracer model, called Cinder...i met a Panaracer rep today and he said its the more high end and more aggresive version of FireXC pro, at 2.25 dimension....seems like the best choice and its 12$ cheaper than the michelin hotS
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keep in mind panaracers are on the narrow side. 2.25 will be small for dh (imo)
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The cinder is 57mm wide (verified) and its considered the first panaracer that has a correctly stated size. I agree that the pre-2004 lineup was about an inch smaller than stated, at least thats what the panaracer rep that i met today told me. They are 750g each, true 2.25 and they promise to be a good hardcore trail tire (ok we can put other labels....light DH/FR etc etc).
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you have my vote for the panaracer fire xc pro. I am running it in the rear and its grips nicely in this snowy weather
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Originally Posted by mindbogger
you have my vote for the panaracer fire xc pro. I am running it in the rear and its grips nicely in this snowy weather
Thanks lad, i ll get the cinder finally...its the light FR high-end equivalent of the FireXCPro... at last some cornering grip...coz my crap Roll-X tires have none.
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Thanks lad, i ll get the cinder finally...its the light FR high-end equivalent of the FireXCPro... at last some cornering grip...coz my crap Roll-X tires have none.
Those the specialized tires right?...road slicks have better cornering then those pieces of crap.
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Thats true my friend....the Roll-X is one of the worst i have ever tried. I think that i bury my SX given those tires...
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I have been using Nokian NBX 2.3's for 6 months. I am happy with the traction both wet and dry, but for the second time, my rear tire is losing side knobs. The first time, with over a dozen half cut off or dangling, Nokian replaced the tire. Kudos to their customer service. Maybe the tires are just not designed for the rocky terrain I ride. I am going to switch back to Continental Verticals-they wear faster, but I have never lost a knob.
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Thanks for all the advice people.

Most probably i ll get the new Panaracer Cinders 2.25, unless i am able to find a maxxis tire that is around 2.2 wide and around 700g.
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Good luck Math. Maxxis is more concerned with making super strong tires than xc tires. I think Panaracer is where you are at
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Well 700g is nothing like XC mate, its into FR/Trail territory, and thats deep inside. 400-500 is XC , 600 is all around 700-900 is FR and 900+ is DH/HeavyFR. At least this is how things work in the UK, i expect that in Canada things are different, since even canadian XC stuff are considered somewhat beefy here in the UK.

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