View Poll Results: How do you decide purchases
Cheap Light
1
2.50%
Cheap Strong
18
45.00%
Light Strong
12
30.00%
Other
9
22.50%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll
Cheap, Light or Strong
05-07-04 | 11:40 AM
#2
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Wood Licker
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From: Whistler,BC
Bikes: Trek Fuel EX 8 27.5 +, 2002 Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002
Cheap Strong for me. Lightweight just doesn't make sense to me. I would rather have durable parts over light ones.
BTW for anyone who is curious this is based on the adage
Cheap,Light or Strong pick 2. While this isn't true 100% of the time this does work quite often in mtb industry.
BTW for anyone who is curious this is based on the adage
Cheap,Light or Strong pick 2. While this isn't true 100% of the time this does work quite often in mtb industry.
05-07-04 | 01:01 PM
#3
I voted Cheap and Light, mostly because I get an employee discount and can buy the "Better" stuff for little money.
My preference is Strong and Quality! Precision is more important than weight. When I shift I want it to be smooth and precise!
L8R
My preference is Strong and Quality! Precision is more important than weight. When I shift I want it to be smooth and precise!
L8R
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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "WOW, What a Ride!" - unknown
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05-07-04 | 01:02 PM
#4
BTW, we have a similar pyramid in the construction industry for projects: Time Schedule, Quality and Cost, pick two! If you want it fast, it's going to cost you or be inferior quality..etc.
L8R
L8R
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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "WOW, What a Ride!" - unknown
"Your Bike Sucks" - Sky Yaeger
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "WOW, What a Ride!" - unknown
"Your Bike Sucks" - Sky Yaeger
05-07-04 | 01:27 PM
#5
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Wood Licker
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From: Whistler,BC
Bikes: Trek Fuel EX 8 27.5 +, 2002 Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002
I find it relative in everything. Too bad there isn't a way to make all 3 possible. (obviously ep's and other hookups shouldn't count)...
05-07-04 | 01:30 PM
#7
DEADBEEF
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From: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
I'm with a2psyklnut on this one. I voted "other" though because I want "strong and quality".
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2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
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1999 K2 OzM
2001 Aegis Aro Svelte"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
05-07-04 | 01:36 PM
#8
Work hard, Play hard
Joined: Dec 2003
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From: San Diego, California
Bikes: Cannondale super V 500, Bianchi Piaggio(hopefully getting a new road bike when I get some money)
I voted other since I like quality. If I have to pay a bit more to get a better quality product then so be it.
05-07-04 | 01:55 PM
#10
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Wood Licker
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From: Whistler,BC
Bikes: Trek Fuel EX 8 27.5 +, 2002 Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002
Originally Posted by thedopefish
i defintaley go with Strong and Cheap.. i break stuff ALL the time...especially rims.
05-07-04 | 01:56 PM
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I couldn't car less.
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Bikes: Ritchey P-series prototype, Diamondback, Nishiki Triathelon Pro.
Is this the Keith Botranger "Cheap, light, strong-pick any 2?"
Light and strong-oh and for a good price..Damn.
Strength over lightness (may be light,broken-its garbage).
Light and strong-oh and for a good price..Damn.
Strength over lightness (may be light,broken-its garbage).
05-07-04 | 02:27 PM
#13
DEADBEEF
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From: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
Originally Posted by Maelstrom
I am quite happy with the new rims on the market as they are quite strong. I run a 36 hole ryno lite XL and they have lasted quite a while. I also run a mavic 321D which was brutally strong. Wheels are one spot I put a lot of money of money into due to my ryno size
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1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
1999 K2 OzM
2001 Aegis Aro Svelte"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
05-07-04 | 02:30 PM
#14
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Wood Licker
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From: Whistler,BC
Bikes: Trek Fuel EX 8 27.5 +, 2002 Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002
Thats why I like Sun...they last like 6 month (if not longer in the case of my 36 hole) and cost 25$...seems reasonable to me.
05-07-04 | 02:38 PM
#15
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From: Vancouver, WA
Bikes: '05 Yeti 575, , 01 Cannondale SI1000, 03 Felt F65, 07 Tarmac Pro
Originally Posted by math2p14
Strong, then light, then cheap... thats my pyramid...
I more or less go about it this way too. The strongest and lightest that I can realistically afford.....
Dean
05-07-04 | 03:09 PM
#16
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From: So-Cal
Bikes: 03' BigHit Comp/DH
Originally Posted by a2psyklnut
I voted Cheap and Light, mostly because I get an employee discount and can buy the "Better" stuff for little money.
My preference is Strong and Quality! Precision is more important than weight. When I shift I want it to be smooth and precise!
L8R
My preference is Strong and Quality! Precision is more important than weight. When I shift I want it to be smooth and precise!
L8R
05-08-04 | 06:35 PM
#17
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From: "Over the Hill" and going down fast in the 805.
Bikes: Scott Gambler, Scott Ransom, Kona Bear, Bianchi 928 Carbon/Chorus, C'Dale Rize4
I had to go with other. I just use strong parts. Since I get great deals price is not to much of a concern. I will be going with Strong and light when I build my XC rig.
05-08-04 | 11:26 PM
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From: York Region, Ontario, Canada
Bikes: A 2003, Blue, DiamondBack Sorrento With MEGA Upgrades.
it would defenetly be cheap and strong. I mean, come on! If it's strong, it will last a long time. and if it's cheap, it leaves you with money, so you can buy more cheap and strong parts!! 
05-09-04 | 03:49 AM
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Depends on the parts really.
Which part.
light water bottle cages break.
light weight rims, well they tweek...
It depends on your riding style really.
I've got 5 mouths to feed plus mine, so XC weight stuff works well for me.
mind you if that XT rear der snaps, I know that something deore-ish is gonna show up tout suite!
Which part.
light water bottle cages break.
light weight rims, well they tweek...
It depends on your riding style really.
I've got 5 mouths to feed plus mine, so XC weight stuff works well for me.
mind you if that XT rear der snaps, I know that something deore-ish is gonna show up tout suite!
05-10-04 | 03:06 PM
#22
It's all about XC.
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I agree with Scooby...it really depends on the parts.
In general, I go for strength, then weight, then price (but all three are almost equally important...I'm not rich and I don't want unproven, snazzy components).
Just out of curiousity...how do you guys ride? I think that the type of riding has a lot to do with our priorities...I only do XC, by the way.
In general, I go for strength, then weight, then price (but all three are almost equally important...I'm not rich and I don't want unproven, snazzy components).
Just out of curiousity...how do you guys ride? I think that the type of riding has a lot to do with our priorities...I only do XC, by the way.
