New to biking. Don't want to cheap out.
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OK, I guess I didn't scroll far enough...
so $1499 CDN was a bull**** number anyway, that was obvious.
OK letz put bikes in perspective. Most branded bikes have a 20 to 24% margin to the LBS. Private label stuff, like Davinci will prolly get up to 30%...
so the $799 cdn is prolly close to full margin and the MSRP is total bull... number.
$1499 bikes don;t come with Dart 1 forks, or any of the stuff on that bike, $799 is the FULL price! and may be overpriced...
so for $70 more you can get
https://www.silentsports.com/store/pr...rco-Storm-12.5
which looks like a way better mix of parts. Not disc, but the fork and frame are prolly set to take one easily - possible upgrade down the line.
seems to get good reviews on MTBR
and notice, no bull**** made up MSRP... since the Norco site has the 09 disk model listed as $999.
check them out, and let us know what you find...
so $1499 CDN was a bull**** number anyway, that was obvious.
OK letz put bikes in perspective. Most branded bikes have a 20 to 24% margin to the LBS. Private label stuff, like Davinci will prolly get up to 30%...
so the $799 cdn is prolly close to full margin and the MSRP is total bull... number.
$1499 bikes don;t come with Dart 1 forks, or any of the stuff on that bike, $799 is the FULL price! and may be overpriced...
so for $70 more you can get
https://www.silentsports.com/store/pr...rco-Storm-12.5
which looks like a way better mix of parts. Not disc, but the fork and frame are prolly set to take one easily - possible upgrade down the line.
seems to get good reviews on MTBR
and notice, no bull**** made up MSRP... since the Norco site has the 09 disk model listed as $999.
check them out, and let us know what you find...
The $1,499 MSRP is not for the bike I linked to. It's for the Devinci Desperado 1M that's advertised under "New Products"
2008 Devinci Desperado 1 M
CDN$1,499.99
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New bikes at a good price
I have had good luck with Fisher and Specialized in that price range. I have a Fish Wa Hoo and my son has a Specialized Rock hopper Both great bikes. Ask if the shop has any noncurrent last years models. This has saved me some cash. Pick out a bike that fits and feel good.
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The " 24" " bike I tried at the first shop was really big, I had a very hard time mounting it and had to angle the bike almost 45 degrees to get a leg over.
I checked out Silent Sports today and may have settled on a bike. Will go back Saturday to confirm and buy.
https://www.bikes.com/main+en+01_102+...KE=44&Y=2008#2
($799)
What are your opinions on this one?
I'm contemplating forking out another couple hundred bucks and getting the Trailhead:
https://www.bikes.com/main+en+01_102+...E=180&Y=2008#2
($999)
I checked out Silent Sports today and may have settled on a bike. Will go back Saturday to confirm and buy.
https://www.bikes.com/main+en+01_102+...KE=44&Y=2008#2
($799)
What are your opinions on this one?
I'm contemplating forking out another couple hundred bucks and getting the Trailhead:
https://www.bikes.com/main+en+01_102+...E=180&Y=2008#2
($999)
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I did not even know Columbia still even made bikes. And back in the 70's and 80's when I do remember seeing them in the bargain stores of the time, they where cheapo crap kids bikes.
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Thanks everyone for their help. I went into www.silentsports.com yesterday and picked up the Rocky Mountain Trailhead (https://www.bikes.com/main+en+01_102+...E=180&Y=2008#2)
My Fiance picked up the Norco Pinnacle.
Thanks again for the guidance!
My Fiance picked up the Norco Pinnacle.
Thanks again for the guidance!
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That's your starter rig? Heh...nice job. Ride the hell out of it. *thumbs up* It's begging to taste the singletrack.
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Thanks.
I'm definitely enjoying it.
Can't wait for it to get warmer (and dryer) so I can start scouting out some trails here in Toronto.
It got hella muddy the first time I took it out. Took me an hour just to clean it.
I'm definitely enjoying it.
Can't wait for it to get warmer (and dryer) so I can start scouting out some trails here in Toronto.
It got hella muddy the first time I took it out. Took me an hour just to clean it.
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I noticed the suspension can be adjusted (+) and (-). How do I properly tune this? When do I make it stiffer\softer? And how do I know what it's currently set at?
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Not being detail familiar with the MZ Comp fork, but generally the first adjustment given on models is ability to set 'sag', that would be explained in the fork manual (usually availabel online also in PDF froom the manu. site).
'Sag' set on a coil spring setup doesn;t usually change the 'stiffness' much, since good coil springs usually are very linear until they get to either extreme of their travel range. Depending on fork design, oil level changes can alter 'stiffness'. So iff'n you wanna play, you can tear in there and make oil level changes; but likely the differences will be very small.
Air forks do change those characteristics, since lower and higher pressures do change how easily air compresses and so how the fork reacts to shocks.
Usually the next adjustment given on many forks is 'rebound', which controls how the fork reacts after the bump/shock/jolt. Usually found at the bottom of one of the lower stanchions, sometimes layered on top of one tube. That one can really screw up how a fork works, iff'n you don;t know what you;re doin.
Best to read up on the manual, they often give an elementary explanation of 'sag', rebound (and depending if the manual covers shocks with compression damping) compression.
My KHS came with an older Marzoochi 70mm air fork with rebound, and I really like how even and smooth it works. Comparing it to the newer Fox100RL on the Epic, it feels just as smooth and even. I really like that Marzooch, even though it doesn't have any of the fancy modern features like lockout or 'U-turn' type adjustment. Noted that I'm pretty high on the 'Wimp-Out' scale when it comes to air-time and other body/bike bashin feats.
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Thanks for that explanation.
It seems more complicated than I initially thought.
I will leave it at what it is until I get a better understanding of how it works and how it adjusts.
It seems more complicated than I initially thought.
I will leave it at what it is until I get a better understanding of how it works and how it adjusts.
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Good bike site
Also, have a look at Cheap Bicycles for some pretty good deals on bikes, worth a look anyway