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Suntour forks?
I keep seeing people giving them a bad rep why?
Not defending them just couroius what's so bad with them? There a lot worse unbranded forks out there I'm sure? Or are they something I should avoid at all costs? I noticed there on a lot of low end bikes so many people only have experience of the low end forks? Or are they all bad? |
Originally Posted by AnthonyMcEwen
(Post 15631396)
I keep seeing people giving them a bad rep why?
Not defending them just couroius what's so bad with them? There a lot worse unbranded forks out there I'm sure? Or are they something I should avoid at all costs? I noticed there on a lot of low end bikes so many people only have experience of the low end forks? Or are they all bad? Suntour forks do not offer the same level of performance as better branded forks. The compression/rebound is not as fluid or smooth, and the transitions between the compresson/rebound is not as responsive. Simply put, Suntour forks just don't offer the same level of control that a better fork offers. If you're the kinda rider who goes out and dances around on some beginner-level singletrack, a Suntour fork will treat you just fine, but once you start getting into the "high end" of the beginner stuff, you'll want something that offers a higher level of control. In other words, if you're traveling down a hill at a good rate of speed over bumpy terrain, you're going to get "kick-back" or more compression than you want while traveling over those rocks, roots, etc. The "kick-back" and constant "bottoming out" of the fork will just make the ride really "exciting," and not in a good way. The responsiveness and smoothness just aren't there. The best way I can explain it is that a Suntour fork is limiting to those who are looking to improve and exceed beyond the "beginner" stages. |
Hmm okay cheers....that good, I understand rock shox are pretty good? I'll stick to them for my first bike then.
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Originally Posted by AnthonyMcEwen
(Post 15631505)
Hmm okay cheers....that good, I understand rock shox are pretty good? I'll stick to them for my first bike then.
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Suntour makes a variety of forks from cheap low quality ones to expensive high quality ones.
You hear people whinging about cheap Suntour forks but you don't hear many complaints about their better quality more expensive forks. Suntour made forks for Marzocchi for about 10 years. Gold Medals & Rainbow Jerseys from riding Suntour forks: http://issuu.com/why_gbr/docs/srsunt...pbook-2k13-web http://issuu.com/srsuntourinc/docs/s...-werx-book-web I understand rock shox are pretty good? I'll stick to them for my first bike then. * Suntour makes some forks that are better then some Rockshox forks too. |
You get what you pay for. Manufacturers build to price points. $150. forks are all basic and entry level. $600. gets you a lot of technology and quality. Used forks are a risky buy.
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Originally Posted by Daspydyr
(Post 15632075)
You get what you pay for. Manufacturers build to price points. $150. forks are all basic and entry level. $600. gets you a lot of technology and quality. Used forks are a risky buy.
Although since I know him fairly well I don't think I'll have any problems but yhea if I had the. Money is be buying new every time.....wouldent we all though. OK guys cheers for all the advice I'll looking what's what but I have a rough idea of what to look for now....I'm Not overly fussed by specs at my merger price point so long as I don't and up buying a BSO its all good- |
Originally Posted by cobba
(Post 15632029)
Suntour makes a variety of forks from cheap low quality ones to expensive high quality ones.
You hear people whinging about cheap Suntour forks but you don't hear many complaints about their better quality more expensive forks. Suntour made forks for Marzocchi for about 10 years. Gold Medals & Rainbow Jerseys from riding Suntour forks: http://issuu.com/why_gbr/docs/srsunt...pbook-2k13-web http://issuu.com/srsuntourinc/docs/s...-werx-book-web Don't get brainwashed into thinking that Rockshox is the only brand worth buying, there's other brands that make good forks too. * Suntour makes some forks that are better then some Rockshox forks too. |
im using suntour axon travel 100 remote lock for 1 year without any problem :thumb: with reasonable price to :)
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Originally Posted by Wooden Tiger
(Post 15632217)
So what's your idea of an expensive Suntour fork, $150? I'm yet to see a high-end Suntour fork on anything.
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The Suntour website actually lists a number of good looking, seemingly well made forks.
http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/dst...466/Forks.html Anthony, my FS bike is a second hand bike from a trusted source. Like you are doing, knowing who you are buying from is important. Welcome to the thread, post some action shots. |
Lol action shots....I'm 12stone so won't be getting much air TBH....did I also mention extramly unfit and and unskilled..but I'll try.
Getting the bike end of month....payday....only gonna be a beater nothing amazing, just somin to get my feet wet. |
http://forums.mtbr.com/beginners-cor...rk-830657.html
Just about everyone seems to be very pleased with their Suntour Raidon in that thread. I also think it is cool that they let you upgrade to their mid level fork so inexpensively. From what I can gather they make solid high end stuff and like anything you get what you pay for on the low end stuff. I'd bet whatever fork was thrown on a 500 dollar entry level bike would get a bad rep, because no matter what it won't be a very good fork. People just seem to associate their whole product line with their 100 dollar entry level options. Is what it is. If their stuff is good people will use it. |
Originally Posted by Elduderino2412
(Post 15632899)
Nobody buys them, but they do make higher end forks. They are supposed to be pretty decent
Originally Posted by LTT777
(Post 15633850)
http://forums.mtbr.com/beginners-cor...rk-830657.html
Just about everyone seems to be very pleased with their Suntour Raidon in that thread. I also think it is cool that they let you upgrade to their mid level fork so inexpensively. From what I can gather they make solid high end stuff and like anything you get what you pay for on the low end stuff. I'd bet whatever fork was thrown on a 500 dollar entry level bike would get a bad rep, because no matter what it won't be a very good fork. People just seem to associate their whole product line with their 100 dollar entry level options. Is what it is. If their stuff is good people will use it. |
Hey it wasn't long ago that many of us considered RST forks as a cut above Suntour and most Suntour forks were found on the higher priced Schwinns at Targets, rarely on LBS bikes. It's true that Suntour has come a long way since then, improved their quality and moved into the mainstream LBS brands, mostly at entry levels. It's just that old perceptions take some time to change. If Suntour keeps their current improved quality level they should gain trust and respect. The subject of Suntour forks has come up with two local mechanics. Both stated the Suntour line has really improved over the last few years. That's good for us.
But I'll stay with Fox, thank you. |
My Scott Aspect Has the Suntour fork, Don't know what vintage, the bike was new this year. I have a lock out and damping control. Works fine for me but I don't go for big speeds.
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Originally Posted by roccobike
(Post 15634014)
Hey it wasn't long ago that many of us considered RST forks as a cut above Suntour
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Originally Posted by Zephyr11
(Post 15634076)
And I used to have a Manitou Axel for a while that I wasn't impressed with either, and even that's a step up from the Dart and XC28.
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Originally Posted by Wooden Tiger
(Post 15632217)
So what's your idea of an expensive Suntour fork, $150? I'm yet to see a high-end Suntour fork on anything.
http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3478 http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3485 http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3488 * High end Suntour forks mightn't even be available in your part of the world but they do exist and you might be surprised at how much they can sell for. |
Originally Posted by roccobike
(Post 15634014)
Hey it wasn't long ago that many of us considered RST forks as a cut above Suntour and most Suntour forks were found on the higher priced Schwinns at Targets, rarely on LBS bikes. It's true that Suntour has come a long way since then, improved their quality and moved into the mainstream LBS brands, mostly at entry levels. It's just that old perceptions take some time to change. If Suntour keeps their current improved quality level they should gain trust and respect. The subject of Suntour forks has come up with two local mechanics. Both stated the Suntour line has really improved over the last few years. That's good for us.
But I'll stay with Fox, thank you.
Originally Posted by osco53
(Post 15634062)
My Scott Aspect Has the Suntour fork, Don't know what vintage, the bike was new this year. I have a lock out and damping control. Works fine for me but I don't go for big speeds.
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Originally Posted by Wooden Tiger
(Post 15634334)
Yes, there are some perceptions that take time to change. Today, Hyundai supposedly makes some of the most reliable and best cars in their class, but there's no way in god's green hell I would EVER buy a Hyundai/Kia or encourage ANYONE I know to buy one. I've never owned one and I never will because when I think of Hyundai, I think of the Excel from the 1980s. Simply put, I don't care if driving a Hyundai cures cancer, you couldn't pay me to own one.
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Originally Posted by Zephyr11
(Post 15634434)
It's a good thing not everyone thinks like you. Remember in the 90s when Apple was crap and no one bought Apple products?
Yep, I own THREE devices that "don't work with anything," and they've all been far more reliable than their PC/Android counterparts. It's a good thing not everyone has a memory like yours and I apologiz if I've offended you for speaking poorly about your Scoupe. |
Originally Posted by cobba
(Post 15634322)
Top of the range Axon, Epicon and Durolux forks will cost a bit more then $150
http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3478 http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3485 http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3488 * High end Suntour forks mightn't even be available in your part of the world but they do exist and you might be surprised at how much they can sell for. |
Originally Posted by Wooden Tiger
(Post 15635238)
No, I don't. I don't remember people thinking Apple products were crap, I remember people thinking, "Apple doesn't work with anything." Big difference.
Yep, I own THREE devices that "don't work with anything," and they've all been far more reliable than their PC/Android counterparts. It's a good thing not everyone has a memory like yours and I apologiz if I've offended you for speaking poorly about your Scoupe. |
o dear what have I started....
but still: :popcornhahaha |
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