Suntour forks?
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Suntour forks?
I keep seeing people giving them a bad rep why?
Not defending them just couroius what's so bad with them? There a lot worse unbranded forks out there I'm sure?
Or are they something I should avoid at all costs?
I noticed there on a lot of low end bikes so many people only have experience of the low end forks? Or are they all bad?
Not defending them just couroius what's so bad with them? There a lot worse unbranded forks out there I'm sure?
Or are they something I should avoid at all costs?
I noticed there on a lot of low end bikes so many people only have experience of the low end forks? Or are they all bad?
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I keep seeing people giving them a bad rep why?
Not defending them just couroius what's so bad with them? There a lot worse unbranded forks out there I'm sure?
Or are they something I should avoid at all costs?
I noticed there on a lot of low end bikes so many people only have experience of the low end forks? Or are they all bad?
Not defending them just couroius what's so bad with them? There a lot worse unbranded forks out there I'm sure?
Or are they something I should avoid at all costs?
I noticed there on a lot of low end bikes so many people only have experience of the low end forks? Or are they all bad?
Suntour forks do not offer the same level of performance as better branded forks. The compression/rebound is not as fluid or smooth, and the transitions between the compresson/rebound is not as responsive. Simply put, Suntour forks just don't offer the same level of control that a better fork offers.
If you're the kinda rider who goes out and dances around on some beginner-level singletrack, a Suntour fork will treat you just fine, but once you start getting into the "high end" of the beginner stuff, you'll want something that offers a higher level of control. In other words, if you're traveling down a hill at a good rate of speed over bumpy terrain, you're going to get "kick-back" or more compression than you want while traveling over those rocks, roots, etc. The "kick-back" and constant "bottoming out" of the fork will just make the ride really "exciting," and not in a good way. The responsiveness and smoothness just aren't there.
The best way I can explain it is that a Suntour fork is limiting to those who are looking to improve and exceed beyond the "beginner" stages.
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Hmm okay cheers....that good, I understand rock shox are pretty good? I'll stick to them for my first bike then.
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Suntour makes a variety of forks from cheap low quality ones to expensive high quality ones.
You hear people whinging about cheap Suntour forks but you don't hear many complaints about their better quality more expensive forks.
Suntour made forks for Marzocchi for about 10 years.
Gold Medals & Rainbow Jerseys from riding Suntour forks:
https://issuu.com/why_gbr/docs/srsunt...pbook-2k13-web
https://issuu.com/srsuntourinc/docs/s...-werx-book-web
Don't get brainwashed into thinking that Rockshox is the only brand worth buying, there's other brands that make good forks too.
* Suntour makes some forks that are better then some Rockshox forks too.
You hear people whinging about cheap Suntour forks but you don't hear many complaints about their better quality more expensive forks.
Suntour made forks for Marzocchi for about 10 years.
Gold Medals & Rainbow Jerseys from riding Suntour forks:
https://issuu.com/why_gbr/docs/srsunt...pbook-2k13-web
https://issuu.com/srsuntourinc/docs/s...-werx-book-web
I understand rock shox are pretty good? I'll stick to them for my first bike then.
* Suntour makes some forks that are better then some Rockshox forks too.
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You get what you pay for. Manufacturers build to price points. $150. forks are all basic and entry level. $600. gets you a lot of technology and quality. Used forks are a risky buy.
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Although since I know him fairly well I don't think I'll have any problems but yhea if I had the. Money is be buying new every time.....wouldent we all though.
OK guys cheers for all the advice I'll looking what's what but I have a rough idea of what to look for now....I'm Not overly fussed by specs at my merger price point so long as I don't and up buying a BSO its all good-
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Suntour makes a variety of forks from cheap low quality ones to expensive high quality ones.
You hear people whinging about cheap Suntour forks but you don't hear many complaints about their better quality more expensive forks.
Suntour made forks for Marzocchi for about 10 years.
Gold Medals & Rainbow Jerseys from riding Suntour forks:
https://issuu.com/why_gbr/docs/srsunt...pbook-2k13-web
https://issuu.com/srsuntourinc/docs/s...-werx-book-web
Don't get brainwashed into thinking that Rockshox is the only brand worth buying, there's other brands that make good forks too.
* Suntour makes some forks that are better then some Rockshox forks too.
You hear people whinging about cheap Suntour forks but you don't hear many complaints about their better quality more expensive forks.
Suntour made forks for Marzocchi for about 10 years.
Gold Medals & Rainbow Jerseys from riding Suntour forks:
https://issuu.com/why_gbr/docs/srsunt...pbook-2k13-web
https://issuu.com/srsuntourinc/docs/s...-werx-book-web
Don't get brainwashed into thinking that Rockshox is the only brand worth buying, there's other brands that make good forks too.
* Suntour makes some forks that are better then some Rockshox forks too.
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im using suntour axon travel 100 remote lock for 1 year without any problem
with reasonable price to
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The Suntour website actually lists a number of good looking, seemingly well made forks.
https://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/dst...466/Forks.html
Anthony, my FS bike is a second hand bike from a trusted source. Like you are doing, knowing who you are buying from is important. Welcome to the thread, post some action shots.
https://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/dst...466/Forks.html
Anthony, my FS bike is a second hand bike from a trusted source. Like you are doing, knowing who you are buying from is important. Welcome to the thread, post some action shots.
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Lol action shots....I'm 12stone so won't be getting much air TBH....did I also mention extramly unfit and and unskilled..but I'll try.
Getting the bike end of month....payday....only gonna be a beater nothing amazing, just somin to get my feet wet.
Getting the bike end of month....payday....only gonna be a beater nothing amazing, just somin to get my feet wet.
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https://forums.mtbr.com/beginners-cor...rk-830657.html
Just about everyone seems to be very pleased with their Suntour Raidon in that thread. I also think it is cool that they let you upgrade to their mid level fork so inexpensively. From what I can gather they make solid high end stuff and like anything you get what you pay for on the low end stuff. I'd bet whatever fork was thrown on a 500 dollar entry level bike would get a bad rep, because no matter what it won't be a very good fork. People just seem to associate their whole product line with their 100 dollar entry level options. Is what it is. If their stuff is good people will use it.
Just about everyone seems to be very pleased with their Suntour Raidon in that thread. I also think it is cool that they let you upgrade to their mid level fork so inexpensively. From what I can gather they make solid high end stuff and like anything you get what you pay for on the low end stuff. I'd bet whatever fork was thrown on a 500 dollar entry level bike would get a bad rep, because no matter what it won't be a very good fork. People just seem to associate their whole product line with their 100 dollar entry level options. Is what it is. If their stuff is good people will use it.
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https://forums.mtbr.com/beginners-cor...rk-830657.html
Just about everyone seems to be very pleased with their Suntour Raidon in that thread. I also think it is cool that they let you upgrade to their mid level fork so inexpensively. From what I can gather they make solid high end stuff and like anything you get what you pay for on the low end stuff. I'd bet whatever fork was thrown on a 500 dollar entry level bike would get a bad rep, because no matter what it won't be a very good fork. People just seem to associate their whole product line with their 100 dollar entry level options. Is what it is. If their stuff is good people will use it.
Just about everyone seems to be very pleased with their Suntour Raidon in that thread. I also think it is cool that they let you upgrade to their mid level fork so inexpensively. From what I can gather they make solid high end stuff and like anything you get what you pay for on the low end stuff. I'd bet whatever fork was thrown on a 500 dollar entry level bike would get a bad rep, because no matter what it won't be a very good fork. People just seem to associate their whole product line with their 100 dollar entry level options. Is what it is. If their stuff is good people will use it.
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Hey it wasn't long ago that many of us considered RST forks as a cut above Suntour and most Suntour forks were found on the higher priced Schwinns at Targets, rarely on LBS bikes. It's true that Suntour has come a long way since then, improved their quality and moved into the mainstream LBS brands, mostly at entry levels. It's just that old perceptions take some time to change. If Suntour keeps their current improved quality level they should gain trust and respect. The subject of Suntour forks has come up with two local mechanics. Both stated the Suntour line has really improved over the last few years. That's good for us.
But I'll stay with Fox, thank you.
But I'll stay with Fox, thank you.
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My Scott Aspect Has the Suntour fork, Don't know what vintage, the bike was new this year. I have a lock out and damping control. Works fine for me but I don't go for big speeds.
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I was always under the impression that RST's more expensive forks (Space Jump, R-One, etc) were pretty good. And every company's cheap forks are crap. RockShox Dart and XC28 are junk too. And I used to have a Manitou Axel for a while that I wasn't impressed with either, and even that's a step up from the Dart and XC28.
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You mean the 5 1/2 lb Axle? I thought I was big time with mine cause I had rebound damping control on the Axle and my freinds with other entry level bikes didn't. Then I tried a Fox F-100. First time I lifted the front end I almost wrecked cause I didn't expect that lighter fork to cause that much of a difference.
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https://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3478
https://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3485
https://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3488
* High end Suntour forks mightn't even be available in your part of the world but they do exist and you might be surprised at how much they can sell for.
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Hey it wasn't long ago that many of us considered RST forks as a cut above Suntour and most Suntour forks were found on the higher priced Schwinns at Targets, rarely on LBS bikes. It's true that Suntour has come a long way since then, improved their quality and moved into the mainstream LBS brands, mostly at entry levels. It's just that old perceptions take some time to change. If Suntour keeps their current improved quality level they should gain trust and respect. The subject of Suntour forks has come up with two local mechanics. Both stated the Suntour line has really improved over the last few years. That's good for us.
But I'll stay with Fox, thank you.
But I'll stay with Fox, thank you.
Which model Aspect did you buy? My wife was looking at one of the Aspects back in February and I believe one of them may have been equipped with a Suntour fork.
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Yes, there are some perceptions that take time to change. Today, Hyundai supposedly makes some of the most reliable and best cars in their class, but there's no way in god's green hell I would EVER buy a Hyundai/Kia or encourage ANYONE I know to buy one. I've never owned one and I never will because when I think of Hyundai, I think of the Excel from the 1980s. Simply put, I don't care if driving a Hyundai cures cancer, you couldn't pay me to own one.
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Yep, I own THREE devices that "don't work with anything," and they've all been far more reliable than their PC/Android counterparts.
It's a good thing not everyone has a memory like yours and I apologiz if I've offended you for speaking poorly about your Scoupe.
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Top of the range Axon, Epicon and Durolux forks will cost a bit more then $150
https://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3478
https://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3485
https://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3488
* High end Suntour forks mightn't even be available in your part of the world but they do exist and you might be surprised at how much they can sell for.
https://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3478
https://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3485
https://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/ind...ries&tnid=3488
* High end Suntour forks mightn't even be available in your part of the world but they do exist and you might be surprised at how much they can sell for.
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No, I don't. I don't remember people thinking Apple products were crap, I remember people thinking, "Apple doesn't work with anything." Big difference.
Yep, I own THREE devices that "don't work with anything," and they've all been far more reliable than their PC/Android counterparts.
It's a good thing not everyone has a memory like yours and I apologiz if I've offended you for speaking poorly about your Scoupe.
Yep, I own THREE devices that "don't work with anything," and they've all been far more reliable than their PC/Android counterparts.
It's a good thing not everyone has a memory like yours and I apologiz if I've offended you for speaking poorly about your Scoupe.
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o dear what have I started....
but still:
hahaha
but still:
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