Help me choose a full suspension frame!!!!
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Help me choose a full suspension frame!!!!
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Alright, I am stuck inbetween 3 full suspension frames. This first is a Giant NRS w/ Rock Shox SID rear shock, the second is a Iron Horse Warrior Pro w/ Rock Shox SID rear shock, and the third is a KHS XC204 w/ a Stratos rear shock. Now the NRS will come with a Manitou Black front fork for $400. The Iron Horse is $324, and the KHS is $305. I want to go with the NRS, but the guy who is selling it to me has ridden it pretty hard, I'm not sure if I would have to rebuild the shocks or not. The Iron Horse and KHS are brand new. Any suggestions?
Alright, I am stuck inbetween 3 full suspension frames. This first is a Giant NRS w/ Rock Shox SID rear shock, the second is a Iron Horse Warrior Pro w/ Rock Shox SID rear shock, and the third is a KHS XC204 w/ a Stratos rear shock. Now the NRS will come with a Manitou Black front fork for $400. The Iron Horse is $324, and the KHS is $305. I want to go with the NRS, but the guy who is selling it to me has ridden it pretty hard, I'm not sure if I would have to rebuild the shocks or not. The Iron Horse and KHS are brand new. Any suggestions?
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NRS will offer better long term performance. Neither the khs or the warrior are on par.
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
NRS will offer better long term performance. Neither the khs or the warrior are on par.
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Originally Posted by Boorad303
The NRS has been ridden pretty hard...do you think that will matter? I'm not concerned with the frame as much as I am with the rear shock
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Originally Posted by Speedub.Nate
Two concerns, the multiple pivots may have developed some slop, and the thin NRS downtube is somewhat prone to denting. Is this a bike you're able to inspect before purchasing? Also, are you looking for such a firm, non-compliant suspension? NRS does absolutely what it claims to, but you may find it harsh if you plan to use it for a trailbike.
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Based on that, I've think you've got the wrong bike. The NRS suspension is there for you on bigger hits, but has poor small-bump compliance due to the non-loaded nature of the suspension setup. You'll find that on downhills, as mass unloads the rear wheel and transfers forward, the suspension tenses up making the bike even stiffer. And it isn't constructed with drops and even light hucking in mind. The down tube will ding easily on a minor spill.
I'd really caution you to demo one and really do your homework before rushing into this deal, even if the price is good.
I'd really caution you to demo one and really do your homework before rushing into this deal, even if the price is good.
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Originally Posted by Boorad303
So what would you guys recommend as a good XC or FR bike? I'm only looking at the frame and I would prefer it to be under $400
Also in that realm, and of the recent Specialized FSR/Enduro bikes in the 4" range are solid choices.
If you want something more freeride oriented, I'm not the guy to ask.
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id say a specialized enduro also. ive go a 2000 model, and ive done some pretty decent jumps and drops, even a downhill day at mt snow on that bike, and its always come through for me no matter what.
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I just went and looked at and somewhat tested out the Giant NRS that a friend of a friend is selling. I dont know what the guy was talking about earlier, but that thing was amazing! It sucked up small bumps, medium bumps, large bumps, 2 foot drops, and 1 small huck. All it took was fiddling with the rear shock for a little while
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
The Giant NRS is a XC Race bike it isn't designed to be hucked. It is designed to be run with No Rear Sag which means the suspension is meant to be run topped out with the rider in the saddle. Trying to FR that thing is tantamount to commiting suicide.
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Originally Posted by Boorad303
Suicide?? Hardly. I'm positive the NRS could be used in just about any way one desired.
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It might not be the best bike for freeriding, but I believe it would hold up.
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Just like a Chevy Impala isn't a rally car doesnt mean you cant rally it. It won't be the best car for rallying, but you can still use it for it, even if that isnt what its designed for.
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Ever used a wrench as a hammer?
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Think of where we would be if we used everything for "what it was designed for"
Originally Posted by Boorad303
How am I supposed to know if I want to become a DH rider? Do I have to shell out the 3 Gs for a DH bike or can I just try my hardtail or XC bike on a downhill course and see if I like it. If I like it with a hardtail or XC, then it will only get better with an actual DH bike.....do ya see where I'm goin with that???
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
No it's REALLY not designed for that.No it really won't. It's not designed for drops, it's designed to be raced on a XC course, not ridden like you would an EnduroYou'd have to do one hell of a lot of modifications to rally a Impala modifications wiill not make the NRS into a freeride bikeNo, I was intelligent enough to have the right tool for the jobA lot better off.The bike you are looking for is called an "All mountain" it will allow you to do the things that you want to try without getting you killed. I sell Giants I would NEVER sell an NRS to someone that had ANY inkling of doing what you propose. I'd sooner sell him a VT or a Reign for that kind of riding
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Originally Posted by Boorad303
You just don't understand what I'm saying and I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you...I'll let you know when I start breaking welds on the frame casue of a few drops...HAHAHA
You may have a different definition of free riding, but what I'm thinking of, it is not the best idea to use a NRS to do even light FR. The wheels really shouldn't leave the ground when you have one of those.....
The ultimate choice is really up to you, but we just dont want you to find ou the hard way...
Good luck
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This is a freeride bike:
This is a Giant NRS:
This is a freeride HT:
This is a Giant NRS:
This is a Giant NRS:
This is a freeride HT:
This is a Giant NRS:
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
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Originally Posted by KonaRider24
This is a freeride bike:
This is a Giant NRS:
This is a freeride HT:
This is a Giant NRS:
This is a Giant NRS:
This is a freeride HT:
This is a Giant NRS:
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Originally Posted by Boorad303
Man, someone just posted about getting rude responses from people and I now see where he is coming from. All I'm doing is trying to get an answer from you guys with some explanation of why you said or chose what you did. Kona Rider, I'm pretty sure I know what an NRS looks like and I do understand the difference between a FR and XC bike. Show some respect
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