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Old 01-14-11, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by HC203
Here's the route I was mapping when asking about that bridge. I've actually routed around the crossing using a local Annapolis route I found. Seems like it could be a good winter ride-plenty of places to stop.

https://classic.mapmyride.com/ride/un...26506240695109
I like this one.

I haven't ridden it in years, but one of my favorite regular routes used to be a 60-ish mile ride winding from northern Pasadena around that Benfield/St. Stephens Church/Defense Highway/Generals Highway area.
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Man down.

Oh my, that wheel rebuild for my Kogswell and (most importantly) my studded tires, just could not get here soon enough. I've been riding the new bike this week. I was turning into Druid Hill and encountered a curb-to-curb wash of ice. I was on it before I knew it was even there. And a moment later the bike shot out from under me. I bonked my helmet on the curb and smacked my right elbow pretty hard. I probably slid 10 feet. Nothing broken thank goodness.
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Originally Posted by HC203
Here's the route I was mapping when asking about that bridge. I've actually routed around the crossing using a local Annapolis route I found. Seems like it could be a good winter ride-plenty of places to stop.

https://classic.mapmyride.com/ride/un...26506240695109

When are you planning on doing this?
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Nice to hear from another Owings Mills rider. I commute through New Town and up Dolfield every morning.
If you see me, be sure to introduce yourself. -Bob
Hiya Bob, same here. This morning, I am commuting on the motorcycle. It was a cool 17 degrees at about 5 am in Owings Mills.

If we see each other, we will holler...

Safe Peddlin to you,

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Neat comparison road bike and e-bike (video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNjFv...eature=related

You can see why the UCI could get so paranoid about someone using a well hidden "assist" embedded into the BB area, but it looks like the hub drive is a better way, but sticks out like a sore thumb.

And, for an extra laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JoQT23LCmg&NR=1

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When are you planning on doing this?
I was going to do it today but bailed. Open to suggestions.

I will be heading down to the Chuck and Crista ride on Sunday if anybody's interested.

@GB-I think I'll be in NY for your Feb rando but keep me posted on when you may pre ride it.
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I think the e-bike is a good idea-if it gets more people out of their cars and onto bikes then great, especially in hilly Baltimore.

Melissa sent me this link about bicycle and pedestrian planning in Balto County. They are looking for people to testify in front of committee. Seems like you commuters would be able to open their eyes.

https://www.forgeflyer.com/2011/01/co...-input-on.html
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I think e-bikes would be great for Baltimore. NR's first video was very cute. The last guy lost 20 some odd pounds on a e-bike, that's really cool.

Anyway the latest from the bike to work day underground (in case of any interest):
Hope all is going well. Nate and I have decided on a cross-promotional strategy for Bike Month that incorporates all of your events, local bike spots, and a bike commuting contest.

· The Bike Month Challenge will be a points-based contest with several prizes, the top prize awarded to the participant with the most points. We were thinking the top prize can be a piece of original artwork, something bike-related. We would need to find someone to create this.

· There will be a Bike Month website where participants can sign up for the contest. There will be an event calendar and links to event pages.

* Points will be rewarded based on participation in Bike Month events and the commuting contest.
* The social media site Flickr will be used to track photo submissions from different Bike Month events. Contest participants get points for taking photos at events – at certain “hot spots” that we will predetermine for each event.
* Participants can also gain points by sharing photos of biking to work and visiting various bike improvements around the city.
* Another major source for points will be a bike commuting contest, where participants will log how much they bike to work during the month. Each participant in this contest will have a log that requires supervisor verification of how many miles they’ve biked to work each day.
* On “Bike to Work Day” there will be a prize for the group that bikes to work with the most coworkers – and award do this by percentage of employees and total number. Photo verification will be how points are awarded.
* We will use our existing e-mail lists, earned media, and social media to publicize the contest.
* There will be sponsorship opportunities for local bike shops to donate bike-related prizes.

In the next few weeks, we’ll be hammering the details about this contest and launching a site where folks can sign up. We will be keeping you in the loop about our needs regarding prizes, publicity, and hammering down details about the Flickr contest. Please let us know your ideas and suggestions as we proceed.



Thanks much!

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Peps that live in Baltimore County, you've got two Council members that have taken an interest in doing more for cycling, now is the time to get involved! Keep in mind you got a DPW that has an excuse for every occasion on why they are not doing more for bikes, they really need to be called out on giving bikes such a low consideration.

I really should write something up with the problems of middle management in government (like DPW), they really don't have to be responsive to public outcry, they just have to have an explanation that satisfies the elected officials. Excuses like: more important things to do and not enough money usually works, what most fail to understand is that at least minimal progress can be made for accommodating cyclists from the pocket change left in the DPW budget that cannot build something huge and expensive.
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Originally Posted by The Human Car
I think e-bikes would be great for Baltimore. NR's first video was very cute. The last guy lost 20 some odd pounds on a e-bike, that's really cool.

Anyway the latest from the bike to work day underground (in case of any interest):


Peps that live in Baltimore County, you've got two Council members that have taken an interest in doing more for cycling, now is the time to get involved! Keep in mind you got a DPW that has an excuse for every occasion on why they are not doing more for bikes, they really need to be called out on giving bikes such a low consideration.

I really should write something up with the problems of middle management in government (like DPW), they really don't have to be responsive to public outcry, they just have to have an explanation that satisfies the elected officials. Excuses like: more important things to do and not enough money usually works, what most fail to understand is that at least minimal progress can be made for accommodating cyclists from the pocket change left in the DPW budget that cannot build something huge and expensive.
Way ahead of you on this one. I have already met with Councilman Quirk, the Catonsville Rail Trail, new head of Balto Parks, and Kathy Shlabach. We (CRTT)presented our trail and bike lane ideas for the western burbs. Quirk et al were impressed. We will be getting a bike lane on the new Frederick rd/beltway overpass. Things are happening on the westside. I threw my hat into the ring for the bike council, if they want me I can be had.
DPW: best read I have on them is that they will do what they are told. Since we now have a few councilmembers liking the biking ideas then we have an in road to DPW. Kamenetz is also on the bikers side and he's capable of throwing some weight around. Things are finally happening!
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Way cool Charley! Keep in mind you need to push for a permanent bike/ped coordinator and a source of funds (budget.) (Nothing against Kathy Shlabach, she is fab but planning has her doing other stuff.)
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OK, I don't mean to be a wise ass, but with more than 7,000 contributions to this thread so far, it has become a mainstay here on Bike Forums. And, as a mainstay, it has a certain...responsibility.

When reader after reader looks at the title of the thread day after day and sees "Where are the MD people's," there's a very good chance that the incorrect use of the apostrophe in that sentence will eventually become accepted as correct. Although I understand that the question is written in "slang" to begin with, the apostrophe is wrong, either way. There should be NO apostrophe in "people's," as it's just the plural of "people." An apostrophe either 1. shows possession ("the people's candidate," "the people's choice") or 2. takes the place of another letter, usually the "i" in "is" ("Shush! The people's asleep!").

In the case of this thread title, "peoples" should be spelled WITHOUT the apostrophe. I know it sounds petty, but many young, impressionable peoples read this forum, which is where the "responsibility" part comes in. Would you guys mind humoring me and fixing the title so that readers do not assume it is correct as written?

Thanks, MD peoples.
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OK, I don't mean to be a wise ass, but with more than 7,000 contributions to this thread so far, it has become a mainstay here on Bike Forums. And, as a mainstay, it has a certain...responsibility.

When reader after reader looks at the title of the thread day after day and sees "Where are the MD people's," there's a very good chance that the incorrect use of the apostrophe in that sentence will eventually become accepted as correct. Although I understand that the question is written in "slang" to begin with, the apostrophe is wrong, either way. There should be NO apostrophe in "people's," as it's just the plural of "people." An apostrophe either 1. shows possession ("the people's candidate," "the people's choice") or 2. takes the place of another letter, usually the "i" in "is" ("Shush! The people's asleep!").

In the case of this thread title, "peoples" should be spelled WITHOUT the apostrophe. I know it sounds petty, but many young, impressionable peoples read this forum, which is where the "responsibility" part comes in. Would you guys mind humoring me and fixing the title so that readers do not assume it is correct as written?

Thanks, MD peoples.
This is the MD "people's" thread. It belongs to them. Does that work for you?
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>>>>This is the MD "people's" thread. It belongs to them. Does that work for you?<<<<

LOL. Yeah, that works. And if my post is just going to spark a whole bunch of flame throwing, just leave the heading as it is!
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I imagine the heading will stay, Baltimore does have a high rate of illiteracy.

NR-where's the body armor? You may need that on rt 40.
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Originally Posted by Papa Tom
>>>>This is the MD "people's" thread. It belongs to them. Does that work for you?<<<<

LOL. Yeah, that works. And if my post is just going to spark a whole bunch of flame throwing, just leave the heading as it is!
No flaming intended. I'm just trying to explain how it's interpreted by the 1/2 dozen of us who've been posting to this thread for years.
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NR-where's the body armor? You may need that on rt 40.
Kevlar under the vest !!
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I imagine the heading will stay, Baltimore does have a high rate of illiteracy.


I shouldn't laugh . . . sad, but true!
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No flaming intended. I'm just trying to explain how it's interpreted by the 1/2 dozen of us who've been posting to this thread for years.
To Papa Tom -- I've never interpreted it that way. I've always interpreted as being . . . well, wrong. (If it were "Where is the Maryland people's thread," that would work.) But I recognize that I'm a bit of a freak about language, grammar, punctuation, etc., so I usually just shut up about it.

(Somewhat ironically, the guy who actually started this monster thread hasn't posted on it in ages.)

//RANT ON// And this: There are few things that will more quickly bring out my inner raging misanthrope than the hearfelt plea "But think of the CHILDREN!!!" If those dumb little bunnies seriously think they should be taking lessons on the subtleties of American English punctuation from an Internet chat board of bicyclists, they are in a far deeper world of intellectual hurt than is evidenced by a few misplaced apostrophes. //rant off//

I kid, I kid . . .
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>>>>But I recognize that I'm a bit of a freak about language, grammar, punctuation, etc., so I usually just shut up about it. <<<<

Me, too. But one of my professions is as a proof-reader and I get really bugged by people constantly defending their errors by saying "Well, that's the way EVERYBODY says it" or "That's how it's spelled on the Internet!"

Anyway, this is a bicycling forum and I don't want to waste any more space here. If it can be changed so that readers aren't bombarded by the error every day, fine. If not...
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More importantly, Titles cannot be edited after the fact so the discussion is basically academic anyhow.

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A bad age to be a grammar snob, I mean WTF? and OMG! I imagine the English language will a much different thing in 25 to 50 years. Back to bikes.

Brief ride report- I had planned to drive down to southern MD to do a DCRand ride but at the last minute did not feel like driving,and with the sit down lunch it would be a long day, 3 hrs driving. So I rode that Annapolis ride that I posted the other day. Left my house at 7am-rode through the city, Hollins Ferry Rd (bomb craters) to Hammonds to BW to B&A. My cue called to get off the B&A at East West Blvd but I overshot by a few miles, which was good because I was able to stop at that coffee shop off the trail in Severna Park.Mexican hot chocolate and oatmeal cookies.
Keeping dry and warm was an issue,managed fingers and toes just fine but my base stayed wet all day. I can't imagine lowering my intensity to a lower level,avg 14.8 for 8hrs.
So I got off the b&a at Evergreen right there after coffee shop. Rest of ride was just wiggling down through that area west of Annapolis, deviated from route here and there. Was going to stop in Annapolis but my mileage was already high and I was cold so kept on moving, even considered taking light rail from Cromwell to home while still getting my 100 miles. I knew I would probably wait forever in the cold for that train so kept on moving. Last few miles to home were slow. Didn't really eat much, gotta be sure to do that next time. Also not sure about solo winter centuries, it was a bit of a blur. 112.5 total.
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Grammar? Hon, sit down and have a crab cake and a beer, all will be better soon, hon.

@Harry, you're awesome! (Whoops, I almost forgot the apostrophe there. )
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Wow todays commute was a wonderful adventure. Never lost control during the ride. Cars gave me some space for a pleasant change though weren't many cagers out there.

PS: The apostrophe (todays commute) was left off due to their over abundance in our forum. Poor Gear Jammer, he'll go down in infamy as the poster with the missing apostrophe in the most visited forum topic on BF. Probably why he left the site years ago, sniff, sniff..... I miss him.
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Grammar? Hon, sit down and have a crab cake and a beer, all will be better soon, hon.

@Harry, you're awesome! (Whoops, I almost forgot the apostrophe there. )
Aren't contractions a relatively new addition to the English language? Are they not?

Or is it a conjunction? "Conjunction junction what's my function?"

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