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Old 07-27-10 | 11:36 AM
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Multiple Gear to Single gear

I'm looking to get a bike for basic commuting and getting around. I read the benefits of having a single gear bike but I don't think I am ready to takle the city without gears. I was wondering if I could buy a bike with gear and change it to a single later on when I'm more comfortable riding?
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Old 07-27-10 | 11:52 AM
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I'm no mechanic but it should be possible. A few months ago I got a cheap road bike and had Shimano Soras installed for commuting or riding where ever I need to go. And so far I'm loving the fact that I can be lazy and change to the easiest possible gear to go up hills.
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Old 07-27-10 | 12:11 PM
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Depends on the bike.

If it has horizontal dropouts, it should be fairly easy to convert back and forth.

If it has vertical dropouts, it's probably not worth it.

FWIW I don't think fixed gear is ideal for NYC, unless you really think you can impress the ladies with your track-standing skills and [whatever the hipsters are wearing nowadays to replace trucker caps]. Geared bike should be fine and gives you a bit more versatility.
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Old 07-30-10 | 07:27 PM
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Where do you live? Even in relatively flat places like NYC or Boston, where singlespeed and fixed-gear riding are very popular, I think most of us would recommend that for your *only* bike, you want to start with gears. A frame that will be easy to convert is a great idea, because by the time you really want to play with singlespeed or fixed, you'll probably want another bike anyway for your geared biking and you'll be able to convert your old one to fixed and buy the bike you really want now that you've got more experience for your new geared one. (Although, for now, even a frame that's tough to convert would be a fine choice, for the same reason: when you buy your next bike, THAT one could be the single.)

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If it has horizontal dropouts, it should be fairly easy to convert back and forth.
Yes, as Bacciagalupe says, what you want is a frame with horizontal dropouts, ideally with a derailleur hanger, as shown here: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/singlespeed.html#vertical . Note that "horizontal" dropouts are actually slanted, unlike track dropouts, which are truly horizontal and open the "wrong way" from what you want.

You're probably going to have a difficult time finding horizontal dropouts in a *new* inexpensive bike, but you'll have a very easy time finding them inexpensively in good-quality used bikes from the 70's and 80's, and some from the early 90's. I would definitely recommend going to a shop that sells good-quality used bikes or enlisting a bike-savvy friend to help you search Craig's List and come with you to "kick the tires" and check the fit on your visits to the sellers.

If you're willing to drop some more cash on this bike, then by all means order a new "more expensive" bike with a frame that has horizontal dropouts, such as the excellent Surly Cross Check -- https://surlybikes.com/frames/cross_check_frame .

If you have more questions, we should probably move this discussion to the Singlespeed and Fixed Gear forum -- you'll get loads of responses there!


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Old 08-06-10 | 03:05 AM
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FWIW I find a fixed gear to be a great all-arounder in the city if you have the right gearing. The only real issue I've encountered is long descents on bridges. Since I use a fairly light gearing (44x18), descent cadence can be quite high. I don't go into Manhattan much with it though so that's not much of a worry. It mainly takes me around Queens and occasionally into Brooklyn. Hipsters and trackstanding aside, I ride fixed for the simplicity and the feel, not for any ridiculous lifestyle facade associated with it.

Ditto on the importance of the dropouts. Verticals can be accommodated but the easiest solution (eccentric hub) is an expensive one.
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