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Old 07-16-07, 10:13 AM
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Got a bike this weekend, and just rode about the neighborhood... Maybe 3 miles... But it tells me alot. I need to get my sorry butt back in shape. What is the best way to build endurance, as I'm hoping that I can get enough of my endurance back to ride Tahoe at the end of September.
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What is the grade for Pierce? That hill doesn't seem all that steep looking at it yet my body tells me something different at the top of it.
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Originally Posted by Bostic
What is the grade for Pierce? That hill doesn't seem all that steep looking at it yet my body tells me something different at the top of it.

Im not really sure, but I know its steep although not very long. yeah it hurts a bit. Im gonna say around 15%.
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Didn't ride this weekend but I did walk 18 holes of golf at the Metro in Oakland, where they have very wide bike paths around that area. I also had a softball game 2.5 hours after. So I still got a good leg workout that day! although I thought it was going to be overcast and cool so I had long pants on and my neck and arms are a bit toasty!
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Originally Posted by Bostic
What is the grade for Pierce? That hill doesn't seem all that steep looking at it yet my body tells me something different at the top of it.
FWIW, the Stanford Cycling page has brief descriptions of lots of route and climbs in the bay area, esp the peninsula. This is what they have to say about Pierce:
Pierce Rd. (0.7 miles, 280 ft, 7.9%)
This climb starts at the intersection with Mt. Eden Rd and ends by the Mountain Winery gates, a good spot for nature break and refueling. The bottom of the climb is well paved but steep at around 10%. After a minute of climbing, one is welcomed by a respite of flatter section of 5-6% grade. Following the pair of sharp hairpins the road steepens to ~8% but the end is nigh!

I can't vouch for its accuracy though ...
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On Saturday I just went for a quick spin through a couple of the nicer neighborhoods near where I live to look at the huge mansions and nice cars. Then on Sunday I went unicycling wih my brother up in Pacifica. We hit some trails along the coast and covered about 11.5 miles. Average speed: 6mph.
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Originally Posted by jobob
FWIW, the Stanford Cycling page has brief descriptions of lots of route and climbs in the bay area, esp the peninsula. This is what they have to say about Pierce:
Pierce Rd. (0.7 miles, 280 ft, 7.9%)
This climb starts at the intersection with Mt. Eden Rd and ends by the Mountain Winery gates, a good spot for nature break and refueling. The bottom of the climb is well paved but steep at around 10%. After a minute of climbing, one is welcomed by a respite of flatter section of 5-6% grade. Following the pair of sharp hairpins the road steepens to ~8% but the end is nigh!

I can't vouch for its accuracy though ...
I don't know ... Pierce seemed steeper ... I would have guessed at least 12%, but I could be wrong. If that's need steep enough, you can try Saratoga Heights, off of Pierce. That'll take you to the heavens!
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Originally Posted by silentben
Then on Sunday I went unicycling wih my brother up in Pacifica .
Unicycling ! Wow, you're coordinated !
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I did Bike for Breath with a bunch of friends on Saturday. Charity was worth while, but the route included too many busy streets and stop signs for our liking.
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Originally Posted by AzureDrpTp
I did Bike for Breath with a bunch of friends on Saturday. Charity was worth while, but the route included too many busy streets and stop signs for our liking.
I was wondering what that ride was ... we were going northbound on Portola Valley, and saw a bunch of riders coming in the opposite direction. Then, I think the Spectrum ride flew past me ... either that or Steve's Alto Velo B Ride.
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Originally Posted by spingineer
I don't know ... Pierce seemed steeper ... I would have guessed at least 12%, but I could be wrong. If that's need steep enough, you can try Saratoga Heights, off of Pierce. That'll take you to the heavens!

It is steeper. Everything on the Stanford site is light on the %'s for some reason. My guess is they are averages.
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Pierce is 10% for bits pretty easily, but it doesn't hold a candle to going back north on Mt. Eden. My computer registered a max of 14% on that. Ouch!
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Old 07-16-07, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spingineer
Then, I think the Spectrum ride flew past me ... either that or Steve's Alto Velo B Ride.
Must've been Spectrum: a.) There's a lot of difference between the B-ride pace and Spectrum. Spectrum flies past us. b.) We went up Moody and Page Mill on our way to San Gregorio, Stage, and Tunitas. We did come across the WW ride on 84 heading into San Gregorio.
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Originally Posted by SteveE
Must've been Spectrum: a.) There's a lot of difference between the B-ride pace and Spectrum. Spectrum flies past us. b.) We went up Moody and Page Mill on our way to San Gregorio, Stage, and Tunitas. We did come across the WW ride on 84 heading into San Gregorio.
Aha ... I was one of those on WW that you flew by.
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Originally Posted by spingineer
Aha ... I was one of those on WW that you flew by.
Wait! You earlier wrote "over to Pescadero then to San Gregorio via Stage Rd.". Our group took West Alpine to Pescadero Rd to 84 to San Gregorio. I don't see how we could've passed you. I do recall passing Jeff S. on 84 and seeing Steve & Cheryl P. at the S.G. store.
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Since you're talking about San Gregorio, is there any alternative to 84 that avoids the long, boring slog to the coast, after the fun, fast, no-brakes-descending part? I'd like to ride to the coast and take Tunitas back, but the flat, headwindy part of 84 just makes it seem unpleasant.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
... is there any alternative to 84 that avoids the long, boring slog to the coast...
The only other way (without adding tons of extra miles) is from 84, left on Pescadero after La Honda, right on Stage in Pescadero, north to San Gregorio.
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Originally Posted by SteveE
Wait! You earlier wrote "over to Pescadero then to San Gregorio via Stage Rd.". Our group took West Alpine to Pescadero Rd to 84 to San Gregorio. I don't see how we could've passed you. I do recall passing Jeff S. on 84 and seeing Steve & Cheryl P. at the S.G. store.
Oh, then it probably wasn't you. I was on the same ride the Steve & Cheryl were on, but I arrived at the store much later. I always get San Gregorio and Pescadero mixed up. We went west on 84, then left on Stage ... don't mind me ... I'm directionally challenged.
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Originally Posted by spingineer
Oh, then it probably wasn't you. I was on the same ride the Steve & Cheryl were on, but I arrived at the store much later. I always get San Gregorio and Pescadero mixed up. We went west on 84, then left on Stage ... don't mind me ... I'm directionally challenged.
Au contraire! It probably WAS you. 84 takes you to San Gregorio. Taking a left on Stage, over the two "bumps", and you're into Pescadero. A left on Pescadero Rd takes you back over Haskins Hill to West Alpine.

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Carson pass is not friendly to clydes on the way up, but it is awesome for clydes on the way down! Rode from Kirkwood to Squaw Valley.
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Did a club training ride today in Los Altos Woodside area.
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Went over the Dumbarton Bridge from Newark, round-a-bout to Alameda De Las Pulgas, then up Alpine to Arastadero, round-a-bout back to Palo Alto to The Prolific Oven, then back down University and across the Dumbarton to Newark. My longest ride on my 'bent, almost 52 miles.
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Over the bridge and through the Headlands, up Deer Park Trail to Pantoll Rd. and then Rock Springs Trail, down to Lake Lagunitas and the town of Fairfax, back up Railroad Grade to the top of Mt. Tam, then back through the Headlands again to the bridge. 80 miles, probably around 10,000 feet of climbing, 10.5 hours. Moving average -- about 7.6 MPH! Luckily, the scenery was nice -- at that speed, I had plenty of time for sight-seeing.

No one on the bridge yet at 7 AM...



About to go a little faster than 7.6 MPH for the drop down to Muir Beach.



Even on a (relatively) clear day, a $20 digital camera can only see so far. The tiny clump of pixels in the distance is the San Francisco skyline. If you do the Mt. Tam century ride, you will see views similar to this.
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Wow, nice day in Marin. We're you on a mountain bike or cyclocross bike?
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Originally Posted by BlastRadius
Wow, nice day in Marin. We're you on a mountain bike or cyclocross bike?
Mountain bike, hard-tail with an 80 MM fork and 1.7" knobbies.

Yesterday, I rode solo, but I've been doing these "mixed terrain" rides with some others who ride with the San Francisco Randonneurs group, and a wide range of bikes have been used. There have been fully rigid mountain bikes, cross bikes, and a couple of Rivendells -- a fixed/single-speed Quickbeam and a Ramboullet with 28c slicks.

The ultimate goal, spearheaded by a rider named Carlos, is to create a route for a 200KM mixed terrain brevet that could be done on any bike with appropriate gearing and, say, 700 x 30 tires. (There were a few stretches where the Rivendells ran out of gears -- 40x16 and 39x25 are not enough for the steepest (but usually pretty short) stretches, even for the strongest riders. Me, I make liberal use of my 22x34. And I like the suspension fork as well, although I think when I get a little more experience off-road I may switch to a rigid fork.

If anyone's interested, here is a link to Carlos' page about the rides, including cue sheets for some of the routes. I'm not sure when the next one will happen, but when they do, we usually meet at the Strauss statue at Golden Gate Bridge and leave at 8AM. All are welcome; I'll post the next time one is scheduled...
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