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#26

Clifton is an excellent person to have brunch with - he vacuums up all the leftovers.
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#27
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 8
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From: Portland OR
Bikes: Trek Portland
3 middle fingers to:
- Everyone who threw their garbage along the course. How'd you like it if I rode past your manicured lawn and threw my trash on it?
- Everyone who pissed somewhere other than a toilet. Seriously, people. There's port-o-lets every 15 miles or so. Plus 7-11's and gas stations. Nobody grows hedges in your toilet; do them the courtesy of not pissing on their shrubs.
- Wheelsuckers. Yeah, you know who you are. No announcements; I just look back and there you are with your nose planted in my butt crack. Here's a joke for you: How many times can I fart on purpose?
- Everyone who threw their garbage along the course. How'd you like it if I rode past your manicured lawn and threw my trash on it?
- Everyone who pissed somewhere other than a toilet. Seriously, people. There's port-o-lets every 15 miles or so. Plus 7-11's and gas stations. Nobody grows hedges in your toilet; do them the courtesy of not pissing on their shrubs.
- Wheelsuckers. Yeah, you know who you are. No announcements; I just look back and there you are with your nose planted in my butt crack. Here's a joke for you: How many times can I fart on purpose?
-pull over & stop to answer their phone. Is losing 5 min to stop and talk really that bad?
-give traffic that had patiently waited a chance to go at 4-way stops.
But the negatives above & not mentioned here combined did not detract from wholly positive experience I had as a 1st time rider. With 9500 people, you are statistically guaranteed to run into inconsiderate people.
#28
Carbon compliance tester
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 615
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From: Santa Clara, CA
Congrats on your finish, it's hard to stick it out once your body's telling you to quit!
Meh. I definitely wouldn't pee in someone's yard, but there are plenty of times and places for outdoor peeing, and bike rides are one of those times. It all depends on finding the right place.
On my ride on Saturday, we were all treated to some guy who just stopped on the right side of the road, one leg over the top tube, and let 'er fly onto the shoulder. That was uncalled for!
On my ride on Saturday, we were all treated to some guy who just stopped on the right side of the road, one leg over the top tube, and let 'er fly onto the shoulder. That was uncalled for!
#29
The fart comment made me giggle uncontrollably - BRAVO!
Also, you da man - 200 miles @ 15.2mph average? Uffdah.. I thought I rocked with 100 @ 15.1!
Also, you da man - 200 miles @ 15.2mph average? Uffdah.. I thought I rocked with 100 @ 15.1!
The Stats
206.66 miles
13h 33m 13s rolling time
14h 45m total time
15.2mph rolling average
The alarm went off at 3:00am and I was reasonably well rested with about 5 hours of sleep behind me. My driver heard the alarm clock and was already awake and sitting up by the time I made it out to the living room. I shambled over to the bathroom and started getting prepped up with all my pre-ride ****ings:
- sunscreen
- chamois creme
- foot powder
- body glide
Finally I finished up and did a double check on the bike gear, then decided it was time to roll. I grabbed my bounce bag and we headed out the door. With the 520 bridge closed it took a few extra minutes to get to the starting line. We rolled to the U-district QFC around 4:45am and I was packed out and ready to roll. I made my way about a half mile to the start line, dropped off my baggage at the Portland truck, and headed to the start line. As I looked down to reset my computer, I saw that in disobeying the cardinal rule (don't screw with your stuff 3 days before an event) I had neglected to swap my wheel magnet off my generator wheel and onto my stock one. Thankfully the guys at the Pedro's tent had plenty of extras; they hooked me up and I joined the tail end of the 5:05am start wave.
The first 5 miles were effing sketch.
Many people don't even know that there is a 5 o'clock in the morning, much less are they awake and riding their bike down a winding chattery hill with about 400 other riders. Between a dozen people dropping their bottles or bouncing them out of their cages (spend the $$ and get an effing cage that keeps your bottle secure when you hit a damned expansion joint!) and losing bananas and tyvek jackets and arm warmers out of their jersey pockets, and riders that didn't signal/call that they were slowing, and the guy that just stopped in the middle of the street to adjust his shoe, the first 5 miles were a white-knuckled festival of trying not to crap my shorts. I will hand it to the police though; they kept the traffic crossings blocked and waved the rider packs through. It was very nice to have that for about the first 25 miles. Good job, officers!
So things settled down after we got out of Seattle proper and people started to thin out into a line along the roadway rather than just a giant scary mass of sketchiness. Everyone began to settle into their pace for the first half of the ride. I found myself at a consistent 18mph pace and very comfortable with it, so I decided that unless I felt that I was over-exerting myself, I'd stick with it. This turned out to be much to my advantage, because I passed quite a few people (while still getting put to shame by the serious pacelines.) I rolled into the 25 mile stop feeling really good about the 180 miles to come. I skipped the 20 minute wait for the port-o-johns, went straight for the water station and got a free Orange-Ginger NUUN from the company rep. It goes really well in orange Accelerade.
Watered up and Nuun'd up, I was out the gates in under 5 minutes for the first stop. I peeled an Accel Gel and a Clif Bar and kept going. I was very careful to keep the calories around 300/hour for the first 75 miles and then back to the 200-250/hour range for the rest of the ride because of the heat... but back to the 25 mile marker... Things were clogged up going through the cities on the way to the next majour stop, but it wasn't anything eventful. People jockeyed for position at the stop lights, (more) people lost their effing water bottles, and everyone was busy finding their "all-day" pace. There was a lot of "on your left"-ing going on, and for the most part people were well-behaved. A few paceliners were acting like the STP was the Giro d'Italia, throwing their gel and bar wrappers on the ground, and tossing their tyvek jackets into people's front shrubbery as if the 3 ounces was going to slow them down, or the resident of the house would forever treasure the jacket as though Tom Boonen signed it and left it gift wrapped for them. There weren't too many of these people, but I saw at least 10 people chuck their jackets along the Lake Washington shoreline residential stretch, barely 10 miles into the ride. The "overboarding" of stuff seemed to stop somewhere after Renton; either because I was left in the dust by the people doing it, or they ran out of stuff to throw on the road. I mostly skipped the rest stops until the 60-something miler station. I refilled my water bottles and that was it. Finally, I hit up the mini-stop in some town I don't remember the name of. It was hot as Hades, so I pulled off and took a sub-10 minute quick stop: Hit the port-o-cans (I was drinking enough, since I still had to whiz, even in that heat) re-**** the shorts with chamois creme, and re-**** myself with sunscreen... zoom, I was back on the road after letting a couple packs go by and finding a break in the traffic to blend into.
Ah, the traffic... It was getting late enough in the day that the first waves of 2-day riders were catching the slower waves of 1-day riders. The roads were getting crowded again, but it wasn't a hassle. Between riders being well spaced until we hit a stoplight and the Goldwing Club patrolling the course it was busy, but not a bung-up rush hour scenario. So, the remainder of the ride into Centrailia was uneventful. Rolling into the Centralia campus, we were greeted by a guy on a megaphone: "Welcome to Centralia! Showers and port-o-sans on your left. One day riders, there is food on the right. The beer garden is now open. 2 day riders, to the left. 1 day riders, stay to the right. Welcome to Centralia! Showers..." (and it continued ad infinitum) I propped my bike, stood in line for a much appreciated turkey and cheese sandwich and some watermelon slices, refilled my bottles, and chowed down. I tried to post an update to FaceBook via my phone, but I must have bumped the buttons and turned things back on while riding because it wouldn't even boot up... the battery was totally dead. Oh well. I ****ed up with more sunscreen, dropped some chamois creme down the front of my bibs and groped it around (much to the dismay of many onlookers,) hopped back on my whip and started pedalling again.
101.4 miles behind me, 06h 40m rolling time. 91 degrees, and there's no shade. There were still plenty of 2-day riders on the course as we cruised out of Centralia, because for the next 60 miles towns had tent and RV encampments. People stayed in Centralia, then another 30 miles down the road in Vader, and another 20 down the road, and another 10 or 15 past that. (I can't understand what the deal is with stopping at 160 miles. Just finish the last 45 miles.) Anyhow, things started to <b>really</b> thin out for the next 3 towns as riders
dropped like crazy. 100 miles and we lost 60% of the pack. 130 miles and another half of the remaining riders were down for the night. At 150 and 160 miles we lost the rest of the 2-day crew, just before the Oregon border. This is where you could see the separation between the hardcore semi-pros, the finishers, and the I-hope-I-cans. 165 or so miles in and we hit the bridge over the Columbia Gorge. It's 95 degrees, there was a hot headwind blowing down the bridge, and it's a half-mile long climb up the narrow lane. The semi-pros were still in strong form; paceline clacking down gears and just zooming up the bridge. The finshers geared down and grunted it out at around 12mph, while others did not fare so well. Quads cramped, calves knotted, some guy leaned over the rail and threw up. The next 35 miles were low rollers along the side of the the Oregon highway (39, I think.) It's odd cycling on a 4 lane freeway, but in Oregon it's even a painted, marked bike lane. So for the next 25 miles I was just fine grinding along the highway at about 14.5mph, which had become my new average for the final 45 miles of the ride. At 178 miles in there was a mini-stop and I bought a 24oz bottle of water.
With a cold refill, I was recharged and ready to tackle the final stretch... I thought. I was talking with a guy for about 10 miles, and we were cracking jokes and yapping, and all of a sudden I started getting fuzzy in the head. We were doing about 17mph, and I was starting to go into debt on all systems. I apologized and backed off the pace while he sped off and I drifted back to 14.5mph again. My head started to clear after slamming a couple of Accel Gels and a half bottle of water. I couldn't remember the last time I peed. It might have been at the 150s stop. I was still sweating, so I wasn't going to stroke out... but I was running low. My body physically couldn't process any more food because of the heat and exertion. Swallowing was getting a little painful. My body couldn't take another Key Lime Accel Gel, and I might be nearing the last Clif Bar or loaded bottle of Accelerade I could tolerate. I looked at the computer and I was at 189 miles. The city was visible, and I was getting down to the last hour in the saddle. Mentally I felt renewed. Team pacelines (Toyota/United, and Gerk's Alpine Hut) passed me as I was chugging along with my head hanging a bit, and gave me a thumbs up and said "finish strong, man. Almost there. You can get this." That was all the encouragement I needed to keep rolling, until mile 198.
Mile 198. 5 miles left, and somebody put a hill in our way. Sweet mother of Miguel Indurain, this hill was just uncalled for: It was winding, it was chattery pavement, and it was steep grade for it's short and torturous third of a mile length. We jammed our way to the top of it, continued up into the downtown Portland metro area, and managed to miss a turn... About 7 blocks later we noticed that there are no other cyclists in bib numbers, and there's no Dan Henry marks. We stopped, checked out maps, were still lost and asked a kid where the hell our street was. His answer was "waaaay down that way you missed it. Just go like, a mile or something and it's after you cross Everett.) So we turned around and I wasn't sure I was going to make it. The tank was empty. I was fueled on fumes at that point, and I don't know how I made it over the line. We found our turn, managed not to get lost again (I think the bus we got behind was over the Dan Henry marker and that's why we missed it first time around.) Finally we rolled into the park. I vaguely remember hearing "This is [REAL NAME] of Redmond, Washington crossing the 1-day finish line!" from the PA system as I rolled past the volunteers handing out the
1-day finisher patches. I got some kudos from people already in the park who had passed me in the last 15 miles as I made my way to a bench by the kids' fountain. I took off my shoes and socks, ate another Clif Bar and Accel Gel, and then stood in the fountain for a while, letting the cold water massage my numb feet and aching legs. Eventually I got my phone to boot up long enough to get Donna's phone number, bum some dude's phone and call her to come and find me. We hung out at the park until I could get my legs underneath myself to go and get my backpack (we got there with 2 minutes to spare until closing time!) and then ride the couple miles back to her place. I had a shower, we rode to the Lucky Labrador Brewpub for dinner, then we came back and I crashed until 7:00am. The next morning we had breakfast at Genie's, rode the MUP along the river for a ways down to the busses, and I headed back to home.
Extra thanx to:
- Donna, who let me shower and crash at her house, showed me two awesome eateries in Portland, and generally treated me far better than someone who smelled as bad as I did really deserved.
- Cascade Bike Club for the ride organization
- The Pedro's guys for giving me a wheel magnet
- The Goldwing riders club for mechanical support and route security
- The police who stood in the sun in every town and directed traffic for us
- The townsfolk who sat on their front lawns and cheered us on
- The townsfolk who set up garden hose "misting stations" to ride through
- The guy who asked to have his paceline draft me for a bit, and offered to slow down and pace me for a while. (Dude, you rock!)
- Everyone who passed me in the last 20 miles and said something encouraging.
3 middle fingers to:
- Everyone who threw their garbage along the course. How'd you like it if I rode past your manicured lawn and threw my trash on it?
- Everyone who pissed somewhere other than a toilet. Seriously, people. There's port-o-lets every 15 miles or so. Plus 7-11's and gas stations. Nobody grows hedges in your toilet; do them the courtesy of not pissing on their shrubs.
- Wheelsuckers. Yeah, you know who you are. No announcements; I just look back and there you are with your nose planted in my butt crack. Here's a joke for you: How many times can I fart on purpose? A whole freaking lot. Who's laughing now?
Overall, it was a good ride. I don't think I'll do it again, because it is such a huge number of people. Like other events, it's gotten too large (IMO). Other people love it and come back year after year for the jovial atmosphere, etc. I felt a bit crowded for much of the ride. It was a worthwhile experience, though.
Congratulations to everyone who rode.
206.66 miles
13h 33m 13s rolling time
14h 45m total time
15.2mph rolling average
The alarm went off at 3:00am and I was reasonably well rested with about 5 hours of sleep behind me. My driver heard the alarm clock and was already awake and sitting up by the time I made it out to the living room. I shambled over to the bathroom and started getting prepped up with all my pre-ride ****ings:
- sunscreen
- chamois creme
- foot powder
- body glide
Finally I finished up and did a double check on the bike gear, then decided it was time to roll. I grabbed my bounce bag and we headed out the door. With the 520 bridge closed it took a few extra minutes to get to the starting line. We rolled to the U-district QFC around 4:45am and I was packed out and ready to roll. I made my way about a half mile to the start line, dropped off my baggage at the Portland truck, and headed to the start line. As I looked down to reset my computer, I saw that in disobeying the cardinal rule (don't screw with your stuff 3 days before an event) I had neglected to swap my wheel magnet off my generator wheel and onto my stock one. Thankfully the guys at the Pedro's tent had plenty of extras; they hooked me up and I joined the tail end of the 5:05am start wave.
The first 5 miles were effing sketch.
Many people don't even know that there is a 5 o'clock in the morning, much less are they awake and riding their bike down a winding chattery hill with about 400 other riders. Between a dozen people dropping their bottles or bouncing them out of their cages (spend the $$ and get an effing cage that keeps your bottle secure when you hit a damned expansion joint!) and losing bananas and tyvek jackets and arm warmers out of their jersey pockets, and riders that didn't signal/call that they were slowing, and the guy that just stopped in the middle of the street to adjust his shoe, the first 5 miles were a white-knuckled festival of trying not to crap my shorts. I will hand it to the police though; they kept the traffic crossings blocked and waved the rider packs through. It was very nice to have that for about the first 25 miles. Good job, officers!
So things settled down after we got out of Seattle proper and people started to thin out into a line along the roadway rather than just a giant scary mass of sketchiness. Everyone began to settle into their pace for the first half of the ride. I found myself at a consistent 18mph pace and very comfortable with it, so I decided that unless I felt that I was over-exerting myself, I'd stick with it. This turned out to be much to my advantage, because I passed quite a few people (while still getting put to shame by the serious pacelines.) I rolled into the 25 mile stop feeling really good about the 180 miles to come. I skipped the 20 minute wait for the port-o-johns, went straight for the water station and got a free Orange-Ginger NUUN from the company rep. It goes really well in orange Accelerade.
Watered up and Nuun'd up, I was out the gates in under 5 minutes for the first stop. I peeled an Accel Gel and a Clif Bar and kept going. I was very careful to keep the calories around 300/hour for the first 75 miles and then back to the 200-250/hour range for the rest of the ride because of the heat... but back to the 25 mile marker... Things were clogged up going through the cities on the way to the next majour stop, but it wasn't anything eventful. People jockeyed for position at the stop lights, (more) people lost their effing water bottles, and everyone was busy finding their "all-day" pace. There was a lot of "on your left"-ing going on, and for the most part people were well-behaved. A few paceliners were acting like the STP was the Giro d'Italia, throwing their gel and bar wrappers on the ground, and tossing their tyvek jackets into people's front shrubbery as if the 3 ounces was going to slow them down, or the resident of the house would forever treasure the jacket as though Tom Boonen signed it and left it gift wrapped for them. There weren't too many of these people, but I saw at least 10 people chuck their jackets along the Lake Washington shoreline residential stretch, barely 10 miles into the ride. The "overboarding" of stuff seemed to stop somewhere after Renton; either because I was left in the dust by the people doing it, or they ran out of stuff to throw on the road. I mostly skipped the rest stops until the 60-something miler station. I refilled my water bottles and that was it. Finally, I hit up the mini-stop in some town I don't remember the name of. It was hot as Hades, so I pulled off and took a sub-10 minute quick stop: Hit the port-o-cans (I was drinking enough, since I still had to whiz, even in that heat) re-**** the shorts with chamois creme, and re-**** myself with sunscreen... zoom, I was back on the road after letting a couple packs go by and finding a break in the traffic to blend into.
Ah, the traffic... It was getting late enough in the day that the first waves of 2-day riders were catching the slower waves of 1-day riders. The roads were getting crowded again, but it wasn't a hassle. Between riders being well spaced until we hit a stoplight and the Goldwing Club patrolling the course it was busy, but not a bung-up rush hour scenario. So, the remainder of the ride into Centrailia was uneventful. Rolling into the Centralia campus, we were greeted by a guy on a megaphone: "Welcome to Centralia! Showers and port-o-sans on your left. One day riders, there is food on the right. The beer garden is now open. 2 day riders, to the left. 1 day riders, stay to the right. Welcome to Centralia! Showers..." (and it continued ad infinitum) I propped my bike, stood in line for a much appreciated turkey and cheese sandwich and some watermelon slices, refilled my bottles, and chowed down. I tried to post an update to FaceBook via my phone, but I must have bumped the buttons and turned things back on while riding because it wouldn't even boot up... the battery was totally dead. Oh well. I ****ed up with more sunscreen, dropped some chamois creme down the front of my bibs and groped it around (much to the dismay of many onlookers,) hopped back on my whip and started pedalling again.
101.4 miles behind me, 06h 40m rolling time. 91 degrees, and there's no shade. There were still plenty of 2-day riders on the course as we cruised out of Centralia, because for the next 60 miles towns had tent and RV encampments. People stayed in Centralia, then another 30 miles down the road in Vader, and another 20 down the road, and another 10 or 15 past that. (I can't understand what the deal is with stopping at 160 miles. Just finish the last 45 miles.) Anyhow, things started to <b>really</b> thin out for the next 3 towns as riders
dropped like crazy. 100 miles and we lost 60% of the pack. 130 miles and another half of the remaining riders were down for the night. At 150 and 160 miles we lost the rest of the 2-day crew, just before the Oregon border. This is where you could see the separation between the hardcore semi-pros, the finishers, and the I-hope-I-cans. 165 or so miles in and we hit the bridge over the Columbia Gorge. It's 95 degrees, there was a hot headwind blowing down the bridge, and it's a half-mile long climb up the narrow lane. The semi-pros were still in strong form; paceline clacking down gears and just zooming up the bridge. The finshers geared down and grunted it out at around 12mph, while others did not fare so well. Quads cramped, calves knotted, some guy leaned over the rail and threw up. The next 35 miles were low rollers along the side of the the Oregon highway (39, I think.) It's odd cycling on a 4 lane freeway, but in Oregon it's even a painted, marked bike lane. So for the next 25 miles I was just fine grinding along the highway at about 14.5mph, which had become my new average for the final 45 miles of the ride. At 178 miles in there was a mini-stop and I bought a 24oz bottle of water.
With a cold refill, I was recharged and ready to tackle the final stretch... I thought. I was talking with a guy for about 10 miles, and we were cracking jokes and yapping, and all of a sudden I started getting fuzzy in the head. We were doing about 17mph, and I was starting to go into debt on all systems. I apologized and backed off the pace while he sped off and I drifted back to 14.5mph again. My head started to clear after slamming a couple of Accel Gels and a half bottle of water. I couldn't remember the last time I peed. It might have been at the 150s stop. I was still sweating, so I wasn't going to stroke out... but I was running low. My body physically couldn't process any more food because of the heat and exertion. Swallowing was getting a little painful. My body couldn't take another Key Lime Accel Gel, and I might be nearing the last Clif Bar or loaded bottle of Accelerade I could tolerate. I looked at the computer and I was at 189 miles. The city was visible, and I was getting down to the last hour in the saddle. Mentally I felt renewed. Team pacelines (Toyota/United, and Gerk's Alpine Hut) passed me as I was chugging along with my head hanging a bit, and gave me a thumbs up and said "finish strong, man. Almost there. You can get this." That was all the encouragement I needed to keep rolling, until mile 198.
Mile 198. 5 miles left, and somebody put a hill in our way. Sweet mother of Miguel Indurain, this hill was just uncalled for: It was winding, it was chattery pavement, and it was steep grade for it's short and torturous third of a mile length. We jammed our way to the top of it, continued up into the downtown Portland metro area, and managed to miss a turn... About 7 blocks later we noticed that there are no other cyclists in bib numbers, and there's no Dan Henry marks. We stopped, checked out maps, were still lost and asked a kid where the hell our street was. His answer was "waaaay down that way you missed it. Just go like, a mile or something and it's after you cross Everett.) So we turned around and I wasn't sure I was going to make it. The tank was empty. I was fueled on fumes at that point, and I don't know how I made it over the line. We found our turn, managed not to get lost again (I think the bus we got behind was over the Dan Henry marker and that's why we missed it first time around.) Finally we rolled into the park. I vaguely remember hearing "This is [REAL NAME] of Redmond, Washington crossing the 1-day finish line!" from the PA system as I rolled past the volunteers handing out the
1-day finisher patches. I got some kudos from people already in the park who had passed me in the last 15 miles as I made my way to a bench by the kids' fountain. I took off my shoes and socks, ate another Clif Bar and Accel Gel, and then stood in the fountain for a while, letting the cold water massage my numb feet and aching legs. Eventually I got my phone to boot up long enough to get Donna's phone number, bum some dude's phone and call her to come and find me. We hung out at the park until I could get my legs underneath myself to go and get my backpack (we got there with 2 minutes to spare until closing time!) and then ride the couple miles back to her place. I had a shower, we rode to the Lucky Labrador Brewpub for dinner, then we came back and I crashed until 7:00am. The next morning we had breakfast at Genie's, rode the MUP along the river for a ways down to the busses, and I headed back to home.
Extra thanx to:
- Donna, who let me shower and crash at her house, showed me two awesome eateries in Portland, and generally treated me far better than someone who smelled as bad as I did really deserved.
- Cascade Bike Club for the ride organization
- The Pedro's guys for giving me a wheel magnet
- The Goldwing riders club for mechanical support and route security
- The police who stood in the sun in every town and directed traffic for us
- The townsfolk who sat on their front lawns and cheered us on
- The townsfolk who set up garden hose "misting stations" to ride through
- The guy who asked to have his paceline draft me for a bit, and offered to slow down and pace me for a while. (Dude, you rock!)
- Everyone who passed me in the last 20 miles and said something encouraging.
3 middle fingers to:
- Everyone who threw their garbage along the course. How'd you like it if I rode past your manicured lawn and threw my trash on it?
- Everyone who pissed somewhere other than a toilet. Seriously, people. There's port-o-lets every 15 miles or so. Plus 7-11's and gas stations. Nobody grows hedges in your toilet; do them the courtesy of not pissing on their shrubs.
- Wheelsuckers. Yeah, you know who you are. No announcements; I just look back and there you are with your nose planted in my butt crack. Here's a joke for you: How many times can I fart on purpose? A whole freaking lot. Who's laughing now?
Overall, it was a good ride. I don't think I'll do it again, because it is such a huge number of people. Like other events, it's gotten too large (IMO). Other people love it and come back year after year for the jovial atmosphere, etc. I felt a bit crowded for much of the ride. It was a worthwhile experience, though.
Congratulations to everyone who rode.
#30
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Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Columbus, OH
Bikes: '08 Surly Cross-Check, 2011 Redline Conquest Pro, 2012 Spesh FSR Comp EVO, 2015 Trek Domane 6.2 disc
How hilly was that 100 miles you did? The Seattle to Portland ride is really flat until the 3rd quarter of the ride.
#31
My tank takes chocolate.
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,344
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From: Olympia, WA
Bikes: Trek 600 series touring bike, Trek 800 hybrid, Bianchi
Great report, Clifton.
I was a 2-day rider, stopped in Centralia the first day. Hotter than he11. I had to stop at every station along hwy 30. Nice shoulder, smooth as silk, but totally exposed. If it wasn't for it being downhill and a (tail)wind, I would have truly over-heated. Riding over the Columbia River was a kick in the pants, except for those expansion joints.
But, I was pleasantly pleased at how well behaved everyone was. Granted, my expectations were perhaps not as high as yours. 2 weeks out I was panicking about the crowds, and, a friend warned me about the start (people jocking for position) and that to start early---not be in the pack that starts at 630am. I truly expected major CF's the entire way. Just at intersections did I get annoyed, where the matching kits wouldn't wait their turn and turn a 2-abreast into a 3 to 4 abreast. I did not see as much of the flotsam you saw. And, not as many water bottles as I expected; maybe I'm just too cynical to begin with?
I did notice wrappers, but, I expected the entire route to be littered.
I confess, I sucked a wheel of group of guys w/ matching non-team jerseys, for about 5 miles max, but only because they rode my pace. They passed me, then slowed down, I couldn't speed up fast enough to pass them, and, I tried slowing down but they slowed down too. So, I stopped being anal about it and took it as a gift. I was hoping to thank them/confess to them, but, in Spanaway, I lost them, then passed them at their personal-support-vehicle.
There was balance, however, for I: a) had people drafting me w/o my knowledge-- one person thanked me for the hazards signals I was giving, while we stopped at a stop sign; and b) someone I wasn't drafting stood up out of his saddle and farted in my face. He was tall, it literally went into my face. He looked left, forgot to look right...... I thanked him for it, and, then told him that it would have been better if it was a tailwind instead of a headwind--I could have been pushed another 2 mph by it.
I was a 2-day rider, stopped in Centralia the first day. Hotter than he11. I had to stop at every station along hwy 30. Nice shoulder, smooth as silk, but totally exposed. If it wasn't for it being downhill and a (tail)wind, I would have truly over-heated. Riding over the Columbia River was a kick in the pants, except for those expansion joints.
But, I was pleasantly pleased at how well behaved everyone was. Granted, my expectations were perhaps not as high as yours. 2 weeks out I was panicking about the crowds, and, a friend warned me about the start (people jocking for position) and that to start early---not be in the pack that starts at 630am. I truly expected major CF's the entire way. Just at intersections did I get annoyed, where the matching kits wouldn't wait their turn and turn a 2-abreast into a 3 to 4 abreast. I did not see as much of the flotsam you saw. And, not as many water bottles as I expected; maybe I'm just too cynical to begin with?
I did notice wrappers, but, I expected the entire route to be littered. I confess, I sucked a wheel of group of guys w/ matching non-team jerseys, for about 5 miles max, but only because they rode my pace. They passed me, then slowed down, I couldn't speed up fast enough to pass them, and, I tried slowing down but they slowed down too. So, I stopped being anal about it and took it as a gift. I was hoping to thank them/confess to them, but, in Spanaway, I lost them, then passed them at their personal-support-vehicle.
There was balance, however, for I: a) had people drafting me w/o my knowledge-- one person thanked me for the hazards signals I was giving, while we stopped at a stop sign; and b) someone I wasn't drafting stood up out of his saddle and farted in my face. He was tall, it literally went into my face. He looked left, forgot to look right...... I thanked him for it, and, then told him that it would have been better if it was a tailwind instead of a headwind--I could have been pushed another 2 mph by it.
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nice job clifton, you did it! great writeup; i was pissed as well to see people throw gu packets on the ground..
btw if you like long rides, but don't like huge crowds, might i suggest randonneurring? a 300k brevet is just 11 miles short of a double century, and a 400k is "only" 249 miles, although sometimes they do send us over mountain passes.. anyway the brevets are usually 50-100 people, and everyone's nice and knows wtf they're doing on the bike.
my stats:
total time: 13 hours (4:45 AM to 5:45 PM)
avg speed: 28.6 km/h (17.7 mph)
stops: five (skipped all but one of the official stops)
flats: one
bunch of details and a pic or two on my blog.
btw if you like long rides, but don't like huge crowds, might i suggest randonneurring? a 300k brevet is just 11 miles short of a double century, and a 400k is "only" 249 miles, although sometimes they do send us over mountain passes.. anyway the brevets are usually 50-100 people, and everyone's nice and knows wtf they're doing on the bike.
my stats:
total time: 13 hours (4:45 AM to 5:45 PM)
avg speed: 28.6 km/h (17.7 mph)
stops: five (skipped all but one of the official stops)
flats: one
bunch of details and a pic or two on my blog.
#34
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Funny you should mention that. On the Daffodil Classic I met papawizo, who is part of SiR. During the Tour de Cure, I rode with Mitchell for a while and talked about his PBP ride last year. This ride I met another of the randonneurs who also rode PBP last year. (Tall gent, orange single speed 80s Peugot.)
I had been considering joining SiR for a while, but I really didn't have any long rides in yet, and I wanted to make sure I was still having as much fun with distance riding now as I did when I was a teen. With a few centuries, a double metric, and a double imperial under my belt this year I'm willing to say that joining will be worthwhile for me.
I'll mostly concentrate on the shorter rides though: 100 to 300km. I would like to build up to a 400 by next year, but I don't currently have plans for anything longer than that. (Those plans may change, though.)
#35
cool, hope to see you out on some of the rides this or next year!
btw there's still a 200-1000k brevet series starting in two weeks: SiR rides page.
in fact the 200k is on the 26th! "hills of tahuya" or something like that, out on the peninsula (but starting in seattle at the ferry). here's the provisional route: https://tinyurl.com/6sb9hr
(btw you don't have to be a SiR member to ride the brevets, but it does cost a bit extra)
btw there's still a 200-1000k brevet series starting in two weeks: SiR rides page.
in fact the 200k is on the 26th! "hills of tahuya" or something like that, out on the peninsula (but starting in seattle at the ferry). here's the provisional route: https://tinyurl.com/6sb9hr
(btw you don't have to be a SiR member to ride the brevets, but it does cost a bit extra)
#36
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Which is why I tell all casual one day riders (13+ hours) I know, "Don't start at UW."
Moving from the Kingdome to UW just made it soo much harder to process cars and bikes. A Bellevue 90 start works for me. You drop in at the south end of the Renton Airport avoiding all the early tension.
Truth! My goal in every STP is to leave enough in the tank for a strong bridge crossing. Delirious burnt out peeps on tri bikes are freaking scary on that thing.
I really really hate that hill.
Moving from the Kingdome to UW just made it soo much harder to process cars and bikes. A Bellevue 90 start works for me. You drop in at the south end of the Renton Airport avoiding all the early tension.
This is where you could see the separation between the hardcore semi-pros, the finishers, and the I-hope-I-cans. 165 or so miles in and we hit the bridge over the Columbia Gorge. It's 95 degrees, there was a hot headwind blowing down the bridge, and it's a half-mile long climb up the narrow lane. The semi-pros were still in strong form; paceline clacking down gears and just zooming up the bridge. The finshers geared down and grunted it out at around 12mph, while others did not fare so well.
I really really hate that hill.
#37
This was my 7th STP, and my fastest - 206 miles, averaged 18.4 mph. I left Seattle at 4:48 am arrived in Portland at 5:08 pm...
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#38
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I rode it in two days and camped in Centralia. My wife went ahead of us and staked out a great shady spot.
From my blog report on the sTP:
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There was a huge rest stop at the REI headquarters in Kent. Tents, displays, food, music. You could spend and hour there but that would have really slowed me down. The 5 minute breaks obviously weren't going to work. You needed a strategy for the breaks. Eat while in the potty line, they really frowned on pottying in the food lines.
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From my blog report on the sTP:
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There was a huge rest stop at the REI headquarters in Kent. Tents, displays, food, music. You could spend and hour there but that would have really slowed me down. The 5 minute breaks obviously weren't going to work. You needed a strategy for the breaks. Eat while in the potty line, they really frowned on pottying in the food lines.
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